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I NEVER SAID POPE ST. PIUS V WAS AN ANTIPOPE!
« on: August 04, 2010, 04:02:45 PM »
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  • So stop twisting my words


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    I NEVER SAID POPE ST. PIUS V WAS AN ANTIPOPE!
    « Reply #1 on: August 04, 2010, 04:37:47 PM »
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  • My mistake then. Considering you originally got banned before I signed up here, I haven't seen many of your posts. It was another member here who told me you said Pius V was an anti-pope. I've also heard you think you are Pope. Is that true?
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.


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    I NEVER SAID POPE ST. PIUS V WAS AN ANTIPOPE!
    « Reply #2 on: August 04, 2010, 04:40:56 PM »
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  • You do reject a lot more popes than the regular sedevacantists, CM, so it is understandable that someone might think you reject more popes than you actually do. Do you think the anti-popes go all the way back to Leo XIII? That would make twice as many anti-popes as in the regular sedevacantist theories.
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    « Reply #3 on: August 04, 2010, 06:27:26 PM »
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    Anticlimax said:
    SpiritusSanctus said:

    The beliefs of AntiClimax go way beyond Sedevacanism. They go into a category I call extremism (a form of heresy). Some of the things AntiClimax has posted are laughable and just very confusing. He believes every Pope after Paul IV was a heretic and therefore an anti-pope. I wonder if he thinks he's Pope like CM does?


    It seems you have a problem with your ego. Why this need to level people, especially those that give you the opportunity to know them? Definitely, you will lose the confidence of the people you love.


    I don't understand what you're trying to say here. Care to elaborate? And do you think you're Pope like CM does?
     
    So, do you think you are the POPE?

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    « Reply #4 on: August 04, 2010, 08:03:50 PM »
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     I wonder if he thinks he's Pope like CM does?



    When did CM say he was Pope?  If it's in a post, would be kind enough to direct me? I must have missed it.


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    « Reply #5 on: August 04, 2010, 09:09:49 PM »
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    My mistake then. Considering you originally got banned before I signed up here, I haven't seen many of your posts. It was another member here who told me you said Pius V was an anti-pope. I've also heard you think you are Pope. Is that true?


    Cheryl,
    Spiritus said it.  I was asking CM if it was true .

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    « Reply #6 on: August 04, 2010, 09:22:07 PM »
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    My mistake then. Considering you originally got banned before I signed up here, I haven't seen many of your posts. It was another member here who told me you said Pius V was an anti-pope. I've also heard you think you are Pope. Is that true?


    Cheryl,
    Spiritus said it.  I was asking CM if it was true .


    Thanks!  I thought yet again, I was a day late and a dollar short.

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    « Reply #7 on: August 05, 2010, 01:48:25 PM »
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    My mistake then. Considering you originally got banned before I signed up here, I haven't seen many of your posts. It was another member here who told me you said Pius V was an anti-pope. I've also heard you think you are Pope. Is that true?


    Cheryl,
    Spiritus said it.  I was asking CM if it was true .


    I read a post on here a while back where someone claimed CM said he was Pope. That's where I got it from.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.


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    « Reply #8 on: August 07, 2010, 09:31:27 PM »
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  • Whoops, I missed the commotion in here.  I am a Catholic layman, nothing more.

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    « Reply #9 on: August 07, 2010, 09:43:09 PM »
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    Whoops, I missed the commotion in here.  I am a Catholic layman, nothing more.


    CM,

    With respect, if you are a Catholic layman, nothing more; you should not be venturing into possibly flawed understandings of the Catholic Faith which may result in you needing to publicly repent and abjure so that you do not go to hell due to errors you hold.

    Catholicism does not require us to be  experts in speculative or controversial theology.

    Why not be safe and adhere to the dogmas whilst practicing the Faith without going out on any limbs that may break?

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    « Reply #10 on: August 07, 2010, 10:22:33 PM »
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  • All Catholic laymen must know the Faith well enough to separate themselves from heresy (St. Matthew 15:14, 1 Corinthians 10:20-21, 1 Corinthian 5:11, Galatians 1:6-10, Titus 3:10-11, 2nd St. John 1:10-11, etc.), and yet the serious and important questions in this regard are scarcely addressed.

    The first and most important question is that of foundation.  What is the foundation you base your beliefs on?  Is it one of hay or stubble, or that which Jesus Christ Himself established?

    I believe that my answer to this first question is that I do stand upon the rock that Jesus built upon. To date, nobody has ever offered a solid reason for me to change my understanding of that rock, and the principles upon which it is founded.  These principles guide my understanding of theological matters.  RC, I wonder if you would venture to read the link and give me some feedback; let me know if you agree or disagree.

    As for retractions:  I am a man, limited experience, incapable of ever reading all the works of theology, or all papal teachings, etc.  Despite following the aforesaid principles in all things, I cannot know if I have missed an important period or writing in Catholic history in which to apply those principles until I become aware of such a period or writing.

    Nevertheless, the positions I see espoused by so many who call themselves Catholic do not stand up to scrutiny.  A battery of questions, left unanswered or answered with contradictory responses, shows that such people do not have the faith.

    I was trying to find the faith and nobody could give me the straight and simple answers, let alone quote the authorities they claimed to be obeying, that I might measure what they say against such quotes.

    It is my feeling of empathy for those who truly are confused about the crisis of faith in the world and who do not know what to believe that lead me to publicly share what I have learned.


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    « Reply #11 on: August 07, 2010, 11:55:47 PM »
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    Whoops, I missed the commotion in here.  I am a Catholic layman, nothing more.


    CM,

    With respect, if you are a Catholic layman, nothing more; you should not be venturing into possibly flawed understandings of the Catholic Faith which may result in you needing to publicly repent and abjure so that you do not go to hell due to errors you hold.

    Catholicism does not require us to be  experts in speculative or controversial theology.

    Why not be safe and adhere to the dogmas whilst practicing the Faith without going out on any limbs that may break?
    :applause:

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    « Reply #12 on: August 08, 2010, 12:49:17 AM »
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    It is my feeling of empathy for those who truly are confused about the crisis of faith in the world and who do not know what to believe that lead me to publicly share what I have learned.



    Admirable sentiments --- but you better be sure you are not adding to the confusion and leading anyone astray.

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    « Reply #13 on: August 11, 2010, 07:17:50 AM »
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  •  :roll-laugh1:  Like Ladislaus, CM may be the last living Catholic.
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    « Reply #14 on: August 11, 2010, 07:32:22 AM »
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    - but you better be sure you are not adding to the confusion and leading anyone astray.


    a bit too late! also, now that CM is back, wonder how this will bode for Raoul....
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