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Offline copticruiser

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« on: July 13, 2016, 12:57:28 AM »
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  • 7 kids always homeschooled oldest 16yrs old 3 yrs of medical hardship 1 yr of no schooling any kids
    Do I accept a priests offer to send some of my kids across country to a dorm school if I can get in?
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    « Reply #1 on: July 13, 2016, 01:12:34 AM »
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  • Might be good timing or bad, but trad schools aren't looking very appealing this week.

    Read here:
    http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Sodomy-Scandal-in-Post-Falls-ID-SSPX-Immaculate-Conception-Academy
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    « Reply #2 on: July 13, 2016, 01:27:35 AM »
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  • Quote from: copticruiser
    7 kids always homeschooled oldest 16yrs old 3 yrs of medical hardship 1 yr of no schooling any kids
    Do I accept a priests offer to send some of my kids across country to a dorm school if I can get in?
    Our lady of mt Carmel. Ontario
    Dominican sisters of Idaho ?

    Your comments are very valuable

    Your friendly canadian  :farmer:


    I wouldn't send my kids to a boarding school under any circuмstances.

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    « Reply #3 on: July 13, 2016, 07:38:18 AM »
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  • If the school is near you it might be fine, but I would be very careful about sending my kids across the country even to a traditional school these days...
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    « Reply #4 on: July 13, 2016, 08:08:58 AM »
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  • I'm relatively new to the trad world, but every boarding school that I know of has had at least some degree of homo scandal there. There are probably ones that have not, but it seems to be a common theme.

    I can only tell you what I would do in the situation. I would never send them off to boarding school. Way too risky for their souls. You would think that parents could feel safe sending their children to trad schools, and it should be that way, but it has been proven the opposite. These are crazy times, and it seems that no group is immune to the effects of this degraded society. Hold your children close, and teach them what YOU know is important. For if you don't, someone else will, and it may not be what you had in mind- and by then the damage will be done.

    God reward you for all of your efforts in educating your children. Keep your eye on the prize, and I will offer for you a few prayers today.  God bless you!
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    « Reply #5 on: July 13, 2016, 11:27:32 AM »
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  • I would be cautious.

    The other SSPX boarding school is near me.  We considered sending our #2 son there after a year of difficult homeschooling.  We went for a visit and talked to other parents.  We decided against it.

    I don't know of any homo scandals here but there is a history of verbally and physically abusive priests and some inappropriate decisions.

    I know of many people who removed their children from the school for these reasons.

    I highly suggest you rethink this at this time.

    We continued to homeschool our son through some very difficult situations.


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    « Reply #6 on: July 13, 2016, 02:33:50 PM »
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  • I agree with all of the posters who advise great caution when it comes to boarding schools of any kind.

    It is my personal opinion that boarding schools are not a particularly Catholic thing. Yes, the Church has orphanages, but I'm not aware of Catholics with parents ever being sent away to institutional boarding schools. It seems to go against the Catholic views of family.

    My wife is from Poland and she never even heard of a baording school until coming to Canada and is dead-set against them. I have come to trust he instincts on such things, since she was raised in (ironically) a Catholic culture in Communist Poland.

    I also have personal knowledge of Our Lady of Mount Carmel Academy in Ontario, Canada. It has admittedly been several years since I have been in that school to observe the conditions, but based on my knowledge of the place from about 3 years ago (and I doubt much has changed since no new boarding facilities have been built), the living conditions for boarding students are quite bad. The food is of very poor quality and they live in very cramped and unhealthy conditions on the upper floor of the old school building. They also do not have nearly enough supervision and my impression -- based on the abominable behaviour of the boarders -- was that it's a bit of a "Lord of the Flies" situation with them. Also, it is well known that the boarders are mostly made up of "problem children" who have been dumped on the school by parents no longer able or willing to deal with them.

    I have heard that this is a recurring problem at boarding schools. I know people who sent their children briefly to the CMRI school in Washington (state), and they pulled their children out because of the dangers both physical and moral from the "problem children" that mostly populated the place.

    Although I disagree with the S.S.P.X position and am no fan of Bp. Fellay, my impression is that there is a lot of good intentions and the parish community at OLMC is very good. There are lots of very devout and serious Catholic there. But the boarding situation I think is highly problematic.

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    « Reply #7 on: July 13, 2016, 02:59:36 PM »
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  • Quote from: Degrelle

    It is my personal opinion that boarding schools are not a particularly Catholic thing. Yes, the Church has orphanages, but I'm not aware of Catholics with parents ever being sent away to institutional boarding schools. It seems to go against the Catholic views of family.

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    Really?  What province do you live in?  St. Jeromes, run by the Congregation of the Resurrection had a boarding school for over 100 years in Kitchener, Ontario. Many priests resulted.
    The School Sisters of Notre Dame had a boarding school for girls in Waterdown Ontario almost as long, with many becoming nuns.  And I think St. Michael's Choir School had boarders in Toronto Ontario.
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    « Reply #8 on: July 13, 2016, 03:08:20 PM »
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    I also have personal knowledge of Our Lady of Mount Carmel Academy in Ontario, Canada. It has admittedly been several years since I have been in that school to observe the conditions, but based on my knowledge of the place from about 3 years ago (and I doubt much has changed since no new boarding facilities have been built), the living conditions for boarding students are quite bad. The food is of very poor quality and they live in very cramped and unhealthy conditions on the upper floor of the old school building. They also do not have nearly enough supervision and my impression -- based on the abominable behaviour of the boarders -- was that it's a bit of a "Lord of the Flies" situation with them. Also, it is well known that the boarders are mostly made up of "problem children" who have been dumped on the school by parents no longer able or willing to deal with them.



    I have no personal knowledge of OLMC as I've never been there, but in mail-outs from last year they are building a beautiful 2 or 3 storey residence for the boarders to be finished in the spring of 1017 I believe.

    Speaking with parishoners from there they have 2 priests, 2 brothers and a house father in residence with the boys.  A nun is secretary.
    They also have just purchased a church and rectory 10 minutes away so the beautiful chapel in the school will be just for the school.
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    « Reply #9 on: July 13, 2016, 04:07:09 PM »
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    It is my personal opinion that boarding schools are not a particularly Catholic thing. Yes, the Church has orphanages, but I'm not aware of Catholics with parents ever being sent away to institutional boarding schools. It seems to go against the Catholic views of family.

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    Really?  What province do you live in?  St. Jeromes, run by the Congregation of the Resurrection had a boarding school for over 100 years in Kitchener, Ontario. Many priests resulted.
    The School Sisters of Notre Dame had a boarding school for girls in Waterdown Ontario almost as long, with many becoming nuns.  And I think St. Michael's Choir School had boarders in Toronto Ontario.


    I'm from Manitoba and I'm not aware of any boarding schools there aside from, perhaps, residential schools.

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    « Reply #10 on: July 13, 2016, 04:11:19 PM »
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    I have no personal knowledge of OLMC as I've never been there, but in mail-outs from last year they are building a beautiful 2 or 3 storey residence for the boarders to be finished in the spring of 1017 I believe.

    Speaking with parishoners from there they have 2 priests, 2 brothers and a house father in residence with the boys.  A nun is secretary.
    They also have just purchased a church and rectory 10 minutes away so the beautiful chapel in the school will be just for the school.


    Yes, I have heard that they have plans to build a residence for the boarders. The fact remains, however, that they have not even broken ground on that project yet as far as I know, and that the living conditions therefore are likely similar to what they were three years ago. The two brothers are an addition. For a long time it was basically just the house father attempting to supervise something like 30-40 boys as the priests were rarely ever around as they had other duties to attend to. A very good friend of mine was house father there for about a year so that's what I heard from him, plus my general observations from being around the school myself.

    No doubt the development of a proper boarding house will be a great improvement. I was just speaking to the current situation.


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    « Reply #11 on: July 14, 2016, 07:13:12 PM »
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    7 kids always homeschooled oldest 16yrs old 3 yrs of medical hardship 1 yr of no schooling any kids
    Do I accept a priests offer to send some of my kids across country to a dorm school if I can get in?
    Our lady of mt Carmel. Ontario
    Dominican sisters of Idaho ?

    Your comments are very valuable

    Your friendly canadian  :farmer:


    Hire a math tutor for the older one and keep them home.

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    « Reply #12 on: July 14, 2016, 11:47:38 PM »
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    7 kids always homeschooled oldest 16yrs old 3 yrs of medical hardship 1 yr of no schooling any kids
    Do I accept a priests offer to send some of my kids across country to a dorm school if I can get in?
    Our lady of mt Carmel. Ontario
    Dominican sisters of Idaho ?

    Your comments are very valuable

    Your friendly canadian  :farmer:


    Hire a math tutor for the older one and keep them home.


    Are there no homeschool co-ops where you live?  Online classes?  Other HSing moms that could help out?  I had one year out of ten when my health made it hard for me to do anything with my kids except reading and a few math worksheet but we made it through.  Certainly the older ones can do a lot of self-educating and maybe you could supplement with tutor/online class.  My heart goes out to you but I think a boarding school would be a disaster just waiting to happen.  The environment does not lend itself to quality child development.

    I have a friend here in the US who has been teaching literature/language arts online for several years and has a growing clientele.  I don't now how that would work with fulfilling Canadian requirements but if you want her contact info send me a PM.

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    « Reply #13 on: July 15, 2016, 12:55:33 PM »
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  • It seems that I am swimming against the current on this topic but I am going to unreservedly recommend any one of the Dominican schools in the U.S. for girls. I can speak from personal experience.  We sent our daughter at age 12 quite a long distance to the only one in the U.S. at the time.  She was there until graduation 6 years later.  She was accepted to college with a full scholarship.  Her professors would ask her where she went to high school because they were so impressed with her classical knowledge.  They told her schools like that were only in Europe. She is now a Dominican teaching in one of their schools.  I will not try to tell you it is easy to send a child away but what she received we could never have given to her keeping her at home.  

    Whether the girl goes to college or not she will have the equivalent of almost two years of college when she graduates.  Plus she will be prepared for life as a Catholic wife and mother, the primary reason for their education in a Dominican school.  We have never regretted the sacrifices it cost to send our daughter to them.  

    This French order of Dominicans only came to the U.S. because Archbishop Lefebvre asked them to come and establish a school.  He told them there would be many vocations if they came and there have been and not only Dominican vocations but other orders as well.  "By their fruits you will know them."

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    « Reply #14 on: July 15, 2016, 11:56:24 PM »
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  • I've heard of emotional and physical abuse from teaching Sisters but if it came down do it, I would feel more comfortable sending a daughter to a convent school than a son to a boy's boarding school or to live in a boys dorm.