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Traditional Catholic Faith => General Discussion => Topic started by: Jehanne on August 19, 2012, 12:37:12 PM
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They claim on their forum home page that "Membership is open to all, Catholic and non-Catholic alike, who seek the Truth with Charity," however, I was warned by individual forum members that I would be banned for my views on EENS, which are not "hard-core Feeneyite" and which are, I believe, wholly orthodox. In any case, they banned me over a thread which I wrote in response to a post from Father Zuhlsdorf:
http://wdtprs.com/blog/2012/03/quaeritur-seminary-monitors-seminarians-email-surfing-wherein-fr-z-administers-tough-love/
After reading Father Z's blog, I posted on the CAF's vocation section that such semainarians should use the Tor Browser to protect their privacy:
https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser.html.en
Within a few hours, my post was deleted. I complained to the moderators who told me that my post was "not appropriate." (Uh, the software is both free and legal.) I claimed that they were engaging in censorship and told them that their actions were "not American" and "not Catholic." After that, they banned me. I tried calling Karl Keating's office about it, but they did not return my phone call.
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Welcome to the Club, Jehanne!
I, along with many others here on CI, have been banned at one time or another for subscribing to anything Traditional Catholic rather than Modernistic Persuasion.
KK? :stare: You might as well place a call to the moon - that's where they live, anyway.
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CAF has the worst moderators of all the Catholic forums in existance. I've shared my experience with those mods before, and they are nothing but dishonest liberals who have ridiculous double standards and make up excuses just to ban people.
As a moderator of my own forum, I normally have sympathy for moderators, since being a mod is no easy job. But I have no sympathy for moderators like the ones at CAF. It's amazing to me that they dare to call themselves Catholics.
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I have been banned by the dioceses of phoenix, by Judie Brown, and by Lifesite.news. What fun! Even on "open lines" on the radio, I was sifted out. So, much for open lines! Is it not amazing when they want your comments, they don't. When they want the truth, well, not that kind of truth! If they don't like what they read, you are banned! So, where can one go, but here at cathinfo?
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Why is it taking you guys so long to get banned from there?
I got banned with such quickness that even Usain Bolt would envy me :rolleyes:
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We are in the same nest?
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Why is it taking you guys so long to get banned from there?
I got banned with such quickness that even Usain Bolt would envy me :rolleyes:
:applause: Impressive! It took me 3 posts.
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Sorry but I missed something...banned from what???
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Why is it taking you guys so long to get banned from there?
I got banned with such quickness that even Usain Bolt would envy me :rolleyes:
LOL.
It took me about 550 posts to get banned from CAF (a month and a half). I'm really surprised they left me on there that long. Though, I had only been a Traditional Catholic for just over two months when I joined CAF. So if I were to join that forum today, given that my mindset has become much more Traditional since then, I doubt I'd last longer than a week.
:laugh1:
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Sorry but I missed something...banned from what???
Catholic Answers.
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Sorry but I missed something...banned from what???
Catholic Answers.
Thank you.
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Sorry but I missed something...banned from what???
Catholic Answers.[/quote
I mean no disrespect to anyone ,but why would a traditional catholic want to even be on ca forum.
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I was new to Tradition at the time, richard.
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Sorry but I missed something...banned from what???
Catholic Answers.
I mean no disrespect to anyone ,but why would a traditional catholic want to even be on ca forum.
I took their teaser at the top seriously -- "Membership is open to all, Catholic and non-Catholic alike, who seek the Truth with Charity." Here is the email which I sent to Karl Keating; he never responded to me (if he does, I will post that fact here in this thread):
Dear Mr. Keating,
I have listened to many debates between Christian apologists and other "opponents" over the years, more than I can even remember. More than anyone else, I have listened to Dr. William Lane Craig and his many debates with atheist apologists. Dr. Craig is very, very open, and like you, he runs his own message board, which I post on. However, unlike the CAF message board, Dr. Craig allows anyone whatsoever, atheists included, to fully express their thoughts and ideas without censorship and moderation, as long as they are civil and cordial with each other. As I am sure that Dr. Craig himself would agree with, "Truth can defend itself," and hence, it does not need to "defend" itself behind a wall of censorship.
I am a confessing Roman Catholic, and so, I disagree with Dr. Craig on many points. I have, however, listened to some of your debates over the years as well, and as with Dr. Craig's debates, both you and your various opponents are each allowed to express your own individual viewpoints in a moderated forum where you each come together to discuss an agreed-upon issue. You present arguments, evidence, and reason to support what you believe to be the Truth, but each side is allowed to present his/her own arguments without interpretation and without moderation, as long as the agreed-upon rules of the debate are followed.
Such a Tradition is both wholly American and wholly Catholic. Saint Paul himself used to have such debates, as did the Church fathers, even into the era of medieval scholasticism, right up to our present day. In carrying on that Tradition, we can advance the Kingdom of Heaven through the tools of logic, reason and evidence and present to our "audience" that Roman Catholicism is the One True Faith, "outside of which no one at all will be saved." Our listeners may disagree, but such is their prerogative.
It is my hope to speak with you personally about this someday.
Very Truly Yours,
Don Flood
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I'd be worried if a trad Catholic hasn't been banned from Cathinfo...oh yeah, I've been banned more than once.
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Been there, done that, got a T-shirt.
I was "suspended" for three days first, for being uncharitable of course. Eventually I was banned. In my case, the topic was going to Protestant worship services. I wasn't even an "official" trad then. :laugh1:
I think what earned me the official ban was actually asking if CA was really a Catholic forum..... :stare:
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You know what the "coups de grâce" was for me? Being silently "banned" from Rorate Caeli...they don't actually ban you...they just shun you.
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I was banned because I constantly posted items like Why do Women not cover their heads? Is the Man head of the Household ? ETC ETC with fully supported Apologetics.
This of course infuriated the feminists to no end. They would bait me constantly and ultimately banned me for some obscure reason.
I exacted some measure of revenge however.
The same day , I had received the typical "Support Catholic Answers - we need your help" email.
I wrote them a Check for $ 2500.00 postdated it and then stopped payment on it the same day before they could cash it . It cost me $ 35.00 from the Bank
Of course , when they wanted to know why I stopped payment - I told them , because you banned me from the forum and I emailed them copies telling them of my "outrageous treatment" LOL.
I got a letter back asking me to return.
I told them no thanks , not unles Karl Keating himself would make me a moderator of my own thread so as to avoid any such unpleasantries in the future.
Of course they wouldn't take the bait
To this day they have me on their solicitors email list asking me for donations and I send the same request for my own thread back each time - But I went in there and created another ID anyway , only because I was in ims with a couple people, although I haven't posted there in a few years.
I see no need. It is for all intents and purposes - a tightly controlled modernist propaganda site.
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I was banned there, too. LOL. If you get banned there, it usually means you are speaking the truth. That place is a R-o-m-a-n P-r-o-t-e-s-t-a-n-t wasteland fused with Zionism. They're basically protestants in communion with a heretical Rome.
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I got banned yrs and yrs ago for being:
-critical of GOP
-Critical of NewChurch
-Critical of flippancy there
-supportive of SSPX
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They claim on their forum home page that "Membership is open to all, Catholic and non-Catholic alike, who seek the Truth with Charity," however, I was warned by individual forum members that I would be banned for my views on EENS, which are not "hard-core Feeneyite" and which are, I believe, wholly orthodox. In any case, they banned me over a thread which I wrote in response to a post from Father Zuhlsdorf:
http://wdtprs.com/blog/2012/03/quaeritur-seminary-monitors-seminarians-email-surfing-wherein-fr-z-administers-tough-love/
After reading Father Z's blog, I posted on the CAF's vocation section that such semainarians should use the Tor Browser to protect their privacy:
https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser.html.en
Within a few hours, my post was deleted. I complained to the moderators who told me that my post was "not appropriate." (Uh, the software is both free and legal.) I claimed that they were engaging in censorship and told them that their actions were "not American" and "not Catholic." After that, they banned me. I tried calling Karl Keating's office about it, but they did not return my phone call.
Well, there you go. All this time you've wasted not being "hard core Feeneyite"
(whatever that is supposed to be) and you could have been all along, and then
the banning would make sense! But now, you can be banned and feel depressed
because you tried to be "not a hard core Feeneyite" so as to keep you from
getting banned and it was a waste of time, since you got banned anyway.
So forget it.
Don't waste your time. Become a "hard core Feeneyite" (whatever that is) and
enjoy life for a change!!
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Personally, I couldn't go to CA. At this point in my life I can't deal with pushy novus ordos. I have a bad temper and Catholic Answers would be a huge occasion of sin for me. Funny thing is, I use to listen to Catholic Answers a lot back in my Novus Ordo days. I would listen to the whole EWTN/Catholic Answers gang and for the most part thought they were all good apologists and evangelists. Wow, I can't believe some of the stuff I've done. I was even a Eucharistic Minister at one time. I can barely stand to think back to those days.
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They claim on their forum home page that "Membership is open to all, Catholic and non-Catholic alike, who seek the Truth with Charity," however, I was warned by individual forum members that I would be banned for my views on EENS, which are not "hard-core Feeneyite" and which are, I believe, wholly orthodox. In any case, they banned me over a thread which I wrote in response to a post from Father Zuhlsdorf:
http://wdtprs.com/blog/2012/03/quaeritur-seminary-monitors-seminarians-email-surfing-wherein-fr-z-administers-tough-love/
After reading Father Z's blog, I posted on the CAF's vocation section that such semainarians should use the Tor Browser to protect their privacy:
https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser.html.en
Within a few hours, my post was deleted. I complained to the moderators who told me that my post was "not appropriate." (Uh, the software is both free and legal.) I claimed that they were engaging in censorship and told them that their actions were "not American" and "not Catholic." After that, they banned me. I tried calling Karl Keating's office about it, but they did not return my phone call.
Well, there you go. All this time you've wasted not being "hard core Feeneyite"
(whatever that is supposed to be) and you could have been all along, and then
the banning would make sense! But now, you can be banned and feel depressed
because you tried to be "not a hard core Feeneyite" so as to keep you from
getting banned and it was a waste of time, since you got banned anyway.
So forget it.
Don't waste your time. Become a "hard core Feeneyite" (whatever that is) and
enjoy life for a change!!
No, I'm glad to be gone, believe me! (In fact, I was planning a year-long break anyway, because I had said all that I felt that I needed to say.) I do have my own blog (no big deal, of course, anyone can do that!) and I want to write a bit about this whole (albeit, minor) incident in my life, because I feel that CA is being a bit deceptive in what they are doing and I think that people, donors especially (whether past, current or future), should know what type of organization that they are giving their monies to.
Now, I do not, of course, believe that people should go on forums (such as this one) and be rude, overbearing, mean-spirited, profane, etc., but if a board advertises that "Membership is open to all, Catholic and non-Catholic alike, who seek the Truth with Charity," then how can one be charitable in denying individuals the chance to express their own points of view?! If you don't want atheists on your board, then, great, say so! But, say so up front and be honest about it! Instead, the CAF board is over-moderated and aggressively so to the point where people are getting censored for their ideas and not how they present those ideas. And, that's "fine and dandy," but if you are going to do that (and, Matthew, of course, does not), say so up front! And, if you do not, be prepared to accept some private criticism from your board members who are pointing out to you the fact that you are not following your own rules.