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Offline InfiniteFaith

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I am definitely switching to SSPX
« on: September 13, 2013, 02:02:50 PM »
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  • The speaker in this video talks about how masonry has infected the Church and prevented certain things like the 3rd secret of Fatima from being revealed. According to the speaker, the 3rd secret at Fatima would have revealed information that would have made Freemasonry out to be the bad guy.

    I can see now how some of the teachings of the Vatican II council may reflect certain aspects of Freemasonry as well as Protestantism. The Human Community and the lack of religious separatism being freemason ideals. These are doctrines of communistic atheism which lead to one world government. This is not to say that we should view our race as being above others nor is it to say that we should not love others of a different race. The same applies to people of other religions. However, to view people of another religion/race as being the same is a communistic atheistic doctrine made by man. It leads to atheism and is of the devil. Without being able to recognize differences in these areas, one may become confused and/or separated from the truth. You must recognize other religions as an evil and a threat. I am not going to run around calling Protestants heretics or anything like that. But I do recognize that the Catholic Faith is the one true faith. I do believe that Protestants are apart of the Body of Christ and do have at least a chance for salvation.

    On top of it all, it is clear that we are headed into the end times as predicted by
    various prophecies of the Saints as well as Marian apparitions. Much of what this guy was talking about is happening i.e. the secret sect/protestants effecting our Church leaders and the Vatican II council. It is clear that "priests and bishops will become vain men" -St. Nilus. It is all starting to make sense. This guy did a very good job of helping me see the light. I am joining the SSPX now. I would consider Sedevacantism since it has separated itself completely from a Church that has become corrupt. But I do believe that Pope John Paul II and Pope Benedict were supposed to be the Popes during this time since the Prophecy of the Popes predicted so. That does not mean they are good Popes it just means they were supposed to fulfill the Prophecy of the Popes. I feel more comfortable joining the SSPX.

    That said, I still believe in the doctrine of Implicit Baptism of Desire since there is evidence of it in the teachings of the earliest Apostles. However, this concept is certainly not something anyone should count on as if they run across the Catholic Church and reject it they are putting themselves in danger. Furthermore, are liable for being a pawn of the devil. One must always seek water Baptism if possible.




    Offline Zeitun

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    « Reply #1 on: September 13, 2013, 02:13:33 PM »
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  • Make sure you believe in religious liberty,NFP, and salvation outside the Church otherwise you won't fit in with the SSPX.


    Offline Capt McQuigg

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    « Reply #2 on: September 13, 2013, 02:14:19 PM »
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  • Lots of really informative videos on Youtube.  Also, consider going to the websites and ordering CD's from some of these places.  


    Offline InfiniteFaith

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    « Reply #3 on: September 13, 2013, 02:33:17 PM »
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  • Quote from: Zeitun
    Make sure you believe in religious liberty,NFP, and salvation outside the Church otherwise you won't fit in with the SSPX.


    You mean I should stand against religious liberty?

    What is NFP?

    I do agree with No Salvation Outside the Church. At the same time, I think there are some who are apart of the Catholic Church...just not in full communion with it i.e Protestants. Will this affect me at the SSPX?

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    « Reply #4 on: September 13, 2013, 02:39:00 PM »
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    Make sure you believe in religious liberty,NFP, and salvation outside the Church otherwise you won't fit in with the SSPX.


    You mean I should stand against religious liberty?

    What is NFP?

    I do agree with No Salvation Outside the Church. At the same time, I think there are some who are apart of the Catholic Church...just not in full communion with it i.e Protestants. Will this affect me at the SSPX?


    I mean the SSPX now holds the position that religious liberty is not a heresy and they also teach that NFP is permissible in cases where the family is poor and cannot afford to have more children.  


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    « Reply #5 on: September 13, 2013, 02:47:56 PM »
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    Make sure you believe in religious liberty,NFP, and salvation outside the Church otherwise you won't fit in with the SSPX.


    You mean I should stand against religious liberty?

    What is NFP?

    I do agree with No Salvation Outside the Church. At the same time, I think there are some who are apart of the Catholic Church...just not in full communion with it i.e Protestants. Will this affect me at the SSPX?


    I mean the SSPX now holds the position that religious liberty is not a heresy and they also teach that NFP is permissible in cases where the family is poor and cannot afford to have more children.  


    Yeah natural family planning is something I am 50/50 with. One one hand, I don't see it as necessarily a bad thing. On the other, we should probably have faith in God that he will take care of our needs if we are to produce a large family. I guess NFP could be taken as lack of faith. But not necessarily. its hard to say.

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    « Reply #6 on: September 13, 2013, 03:01:42 PM »
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  • I listened to the video.  Good information.

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    « Reply #7 on: September 13, 2013, 04:17:44 PM »
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    Make sure you believe in religious liberty,NFP, and salvation outside the Church otherwise you won't fit in with the SSPX.


    You mean I should stand against religious liberty?

    What is NFP?

    I do agree with No Salvation Outside the Church. At the same time, I think there are some who are apart of the Catholic Church...just not in full communion with it i.e Protestants. Will this affect me at the SSPX?


    I mean the SSPX now holds the position that religious liberty is not a heresy and they also teach that NFP is permissible in cases where the family is poor and cannot afford to have more children.  


    Yeah natural family planning is something I am 50/50 with. One one hand, I don't see it as necessarily a bad thing. On the other, we should probably have faith in God that he will take care of our needs if we are to produce a large family. I guess NFP could be taken as lack of faith. But not necessarily. its hard to say.



    NFP is not against the "marriage act" but it's against the "marriage state".

    Many NFP couples have zero children.



    In the eyes of God and the traditional Roman Catholic Church, it is wrong.
    The number one purpose for marriage has always been children.




    Guadium et Spes teaches a new doctrine, very subtely, but it puts "conjugal love" ahead of children as the primary reason for marriage.

    NFP philosophy fits into the Conciliar Vatican II "love nest" of Gaudium et Spes.  

    It demeans children and the primary purpose for marriage.

    If you support it, you're a modernist.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    « Reply #8 on: September 13, 2013, 04:58:34 PM »
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    Make sure you believe in religious liberty,NFP, and salvation outside the Church otherwise you won't fit in with the SSPX.


    You mean I should stand against religious liberty?

    What is NFP?

    I do agree with No Salvation Outside the Church. At the same time, I think there are some who are apart of the Catholic Church...just not in full communion with it i.e Protestants. Will this affect me at the SSPX?


    I mean the SSPX now holds the position that religious liberty is not a heresy and they also teach that NFP is permissible in cases where the family is poor and cannot afford to have more children.  


    Yeah natural family planning is something I am 50/50 with. One one hand, I don't see it as necessarily a bad thing. On the other, we should probably have faith in God that he will take care of our needs if we are to produce a large family. I guess NFP could be taken as lack of faith. But not necessarily. its hard to say.



    NFP is not against the "marriage act" but it's against the "marriage state".

    Many NFP couples have zero children.



    In the eyes of God and the traditional Roman Catholic Church, it is wrong.
    The number one purpose for marriage has always been children.




    Guadium et Spes teaches a new doctrine, very subtely, but it puts "conjugal love" ahead of children as the primary reason for marriage.

    NFP philosophy fits into the Conciliar Vatican II "love nest" of Gaudium et Spes.  

    It demeans children and the primary purpose for marriage.

    If you support it, you're a modernist.


    I agree. NFP can go too far for sure.

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    « Reply #9 on: September 13, 2013, 05:02:10 PM »
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  • Quote from: InfiniteFaith

    I do agree with No Salvation Outside the Church. At the same time, I think there are some who are apart of the Catholic Church...just not in full communion with it i.e Protestants. . .


    That's essentially the contradictory bullshit that I have heard conciliarist "priests" say.  But I am very happy that you are taking a stronger look at tradition.  I really like you and hope you find your way into a traditional chapel, and I hope that you're not just trolling us.

    I think this part that I quoted you relies heavily on the concept of baptism of desire, which I understand you to say you don't believe in.  If you are serious, which I sincerely hope you are, please talk to a traditional priest.  Feel free to PM me if you have questions/concerns.  I have only fully escaped conciliardom within the year.

     

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