Author Topic: I am being conditionally baptized on Sunday (Read 6307 times)

Roman55 · « **Reply #20 on:** July 17, 2012, 07:26:26 PM »

Congratulations Graham!

That is a beautiful church, btw.
This brings up a good question for discussion. I recently read that if one was 'confirmed' in the N.O. then a 'conditional' confirmation is not valid. Their reason being that nothing can be 'half valid', so the whole confirmation must be done. What are some of your experiences and what requirements have you read with this regard.
I know I wasn't 'tested', even though I could have answered any test questions.
What say you?

theology101 · « **Reply #21 on:** July 17, 2012, 09:27:23 PM »

Quote from: Roman55

Congratulations Graham!

That is a beautiful church, btw.
This brings up a good question for discussion. I recently read that if one was 'confirmed' in the N.O. then a 'conditional' confirmation is not valid. Their reason being that nothing can be 'half valid', so the whole confirmation must be done. What are some of your experiences and what requirements have you read with this regard.
I know I wasn't 'tested', even though I could have answered any test questions.
What say you?

At my (NO) confirmation, we were asked something like, "what brings you here?" and we all had to answer, "faith." Then other questions like that, I don't honestly remember. I am pretty sure we were never asked if we renounced satan and his works, which I thought was usually asked. Also, the parish priest did the confirmation, not the Archbishop. We did go to a chapel about an hour away to attend some ceremony with the Archbishop a few weeks prior, with other candidates from other parishes, but it wasn't a confirmation, as he never chrismated us. He did shake our hands though.

PenitentWoman · « **Reply #22 on:** July 17, 2012, 09:35:44 PM »

Congratulations!

I wonder if I will have to do something like this. I know that I was not quizzed for confirmation. I think we just were asked if we knew what it meant to be confirmed. We also had to do a special project. I did a Rosary project.

Roman55 · « **Reply #23 on:** July 17, 2012, 09:54:00 PM »

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Congratulations Graham!

That is a beautiful church, btw.
This brings up a good question for discussion. I recently read that if one was 'confirmed' in the N.O. then a 'conditional' confirmation is not valid. Their reason being that nothing can be 'half valid', so the whole confirmation must be done. What are some of your experiences and what requirements have you read with this regard.
I know I wasn't 'tested', even though I could have answered any test questions.
What say you?

At my (NO) confirmation, we were asked something like, "what brings you here?" and we all had to answer, "faith." Then other questions like that, I don't honestly remember. I am pretty sure we were never asked if we renounced satan and his works, which I thought was usually asked. Also, the parish priest did the confirmation, not the Archbishop. We did go to a chapel about an hour away to attend some ceremony with the Archbishop a few weeks prior, with other candidates from other parishes, but it wasn't a confirmation, as he never chrismated us. He did shake our hands though.

Wow! I'd imagine everyone just got a huge case of the 'warm and fuzzies' surrounding all that! Would I be right? Well, the question of conditional confirmation is based, as you would guess, on the doubtful validity of the Bishop. Was he merely 'installed' or was he consecrated like +ABL did for the Four? My "bishop" had scandals circling him worse than an Olympic skater and all he did was make a 'squishy mess' with his thumb on our forehead. No questions, no 'slap' on the face, not even a 'get ought of here now'! I don't even remember him asking what Saints name we'd chosen or why- (maybe because he wouldn't have known about them anyway)....I know, not very 'CHAAARRRRITABLE'.... So, I still have this 'hang up' about whether or not Conditional makes any sense..as I've read it makes no sense. period.

theology101 · « **Reply #24 on:** July 18, 2012, 02:44:17 AM »

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Quote from: Roman55
Congratulations Graham!

That is a beautiful church, btw.
This brings up a good question for discussion. I recently read that if one was 'confirmed' in the N.O. then a 'conditional' confirmation is not valid. Their reason being that nothing can be 'half valid', so the whole confirmation must be done. What are some of your experiences and what requirements have you read with this regard.
I know I wasn't 'tested', even though I could have answered any test questions.
What say you?

At my (NO) confirmation, we were asked something like, "what brings you here?" and we all had to answer, "faith." Then other questions like that, I don't honestly remember. I am pretty sure we were never asked if we renounced satan and his works, which I thought was usually asked. Also, the parish priest did the confirmation, not the Archbishop. We did go to a chapel about an hour away to attend some ceremony with the Archbishop a few weeks prior, with other candidates from other parishes, but it wasn't a confirmation, as he never chrismated us. He did shake our hands though.

Wow! I'd imagine everyone just got a huge case of the 'warm and fuzzies' surrounding all that! Would I be right? Well, the question of conditional confirmation is based, as you would guess, on the doubtful validity of the Bishop. Was he merely 'installed' or was he consecrated like +ABL did for the Four? My "bishop" had scandals circling him worse than an Olympic skater and all he did was make a 'squishy mess' with his thumb on our forehead. No questions, no 'slap' on the face, not even a 'get ought of here now'! I don't even remember him asking what Saints name we'd chosen or why- (maybe because he wouldn't have known about them anyway)....I know, not very 'CHAAARRRRITABLE'.... So, I still have this 'hang up' about whether or not Conditional makes any sense..as I've read it makes no sense. period.

The archbishop here is incredibly liberal, if not scandalous. Dont really pay enough attention honestly.

What is telling to me is, what should have been the most joyous day of my life, when I became a Christian for real, and for the first time in my life received the Body of Our Lord- just three years later I hardly remember anything about. I was expecting life changing, not warm and fuzzy, and no, didnt even get that. At least the priest asked my confirmation saint's name though. Bonus!

I dont think such a thing as conditional Confirmation should exist if it does. One may confirm something several times, i would think. Though the fulness of the Spirit only comes once, I would say another Confirmation, even if the first was valid, is still OK as you are again renouncing evil and proclaiming the truth of the Church, which is never a bad thing.