Author Topic: I am being conditionally baptized on Sunday (Read 6281 times)

Sede Catholic · « **Reply #10 on:** June 07, 2012, 10:39:10 PM »

If anyone is uncertain about the validity of their Baptism,

then it is vital and urgent that they are conditionally Baptized.

If it is possible that you, or someone you know, might not be validly Baptized, then arrange a conditional Baptism.

It could mean the difference between either an eternity of happiness in Heaven, or the loss of that eternity of happiness in Heaven.

You do not want to risk losing your happiness in Heaven.

If it is lost and you die in that state, it is lost forever.

That dread and chilling word - forever.

Get yourself and your loved ones Baptized. Save your soul and theirs.

TraditionalistThomas · « **Reply #11 on:** June 07, 2012, 10:51:44 PM »

Quote from: Telesphorus

This is another reason why Baptism of Desire is a necessary doctrine.

If it is possible for a malignant priest to invalidate a Baptism by internally refusing to intend to Baptize, it would make God's Judgement capricious.

Not to mention:

A) No one would ever trust their infant baptism was valid, it would be too risky. You would want to see it and hear it done properly.

B) The scrupulous would probably get conditionally baptised 15 times throughout their lives.

Caraffa · « **Reply #12 on:** June 08, 2012, 01:57:02 AM »

Here is the Holy Office response on the validity of Protestant-Methodist baptisms in Central Oceania from 1872:

*Note, densum should be derisum.

Translation:

In certain places some of them (heretics) baptize with the proper matter and form applied simultaneously, but expressly warn the baptized they should not think the Baptism to have any effect on the soul; for they say that it is merely the external sign of uniting to their sect. So they often turn and laughed at Catholics about their belief in the effects of baptism, which they even call superstition. It is asked:

1. Whether the Baptism administered by those heretics is doubtful because of the defect of intention to do what Christ willed, if an express declaration has been made by the minister before he baptised that baptism had no effect on the soul?

2. Whether the Baptism so conferred is doubtful if the aforesaid declaration was not expressly made immediately before the conferring of Baptism, but had often been proclaimed by the minister, and the same doctrine was openly preached in that sect?

Reply to the first question: In the negative, because in spite of the error in regard to the effects of baptism, the intention of doing what the Church does is not excluded.

To the second question: The answer has been provided in the first.

Malleus 01 · « **Reply #13 on:** June 08, 2012, 08:46:22 AM »

Quote from: Telesphorus

This is another reason why Baptism of Desire is a necessary doctrine.

If it is possible for a malignant priest to invalidate a Baptism by internally refusing to intend to Baptize, it would make God's Judgement capricious.

Well said - Great point. There are so many ramifications when Catholic doctrine is willy nilly abandoned by groups of idealogues without forethought.

Pax

Graham · « **Reply #14 on:** July 17, 2012, 05:07:06 PM »

Here are a few photos from my conditional baptism.

First my abjuration where I formally renounced my past heresy and affirmed my ardent wish to be Catholic.

Now after the conditional baptism I am consecrating myself to the Virgin Mary.

This is me at what is perhaps my first communion:

Here I am with my pious and very affable and conditional godfather, Mssr. Mathieu.