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Offline Truth is Eternal

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Re: How we know the world is round
« Reply #30 on: September 18, 2017, 06:01:18 PM »
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  • I did a word search on the word "flat" in the Bible. It is said 14 times and each and every instance it's used, it speaks of someone either lying flat on the ground or falling flat on the ground. Not once does it ever say anything about the shape of the world.

    As to your response, all you did was post some passages from Scripture with some comments. This does not answer the questions I have for you. I don't see anywhere in what you posted anything that speaks of the shape of the Earth. Also, what makes you believe that when Scripture talks about the Firmament, that this means the Earth is flat?
    The Flat earth is described in Genesis and other chapters of the Holy Bible. If you still can't figure out these scriptures, buy yourself a snow globe and then get back to me.
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    Re: How we know the world is round
    « Reply #31 on: September 18, 2017, 06:17:32 PM »
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  • So you CAN'T tell me where, in what you posted, it says that the Earth is flat. You also CANNOT tell me what makes you think the term Firmament means that the Earth is flat. That's all I needed to know.
    You know right where it is; you don't want to believe it.
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    Re: How we know the world is round
    « Reply #32 on: September 18, 2017, 06:19:39 PM »
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  • You forgot Isaias 40;22 It is he that sitteth upon the globe of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as locusts: he that stretcheth out the heavens as nothing, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in.
    That quote is taken from the 1899 version.
    The 1605-10 version says compass, not globe. Compass means circle, look it up.

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    Re: How we know the world is round
    « Reply #33 on: September 18, 2017, 06:22:04 PM »
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  • Without any smart comments or off topic remarks, can you point to the section which says the Earth is flat or the part that proves that just because there is/are firmaments, that means the Earth is flat?
    Right, the Firmament is described in the Bible as a solid "vault" and a "tent" with the earth beneath it. Have you the ability to describe a ball that way?

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    Re: How we know the world is round
    « Reply #34 on: September 18, 2017, 06:24:01 PM »
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  • Without any smart comments or off topic remarks, can you point to the section which says the Earth is flat or the part that proves that just because there is/are firmaments, that means the Earth is flat?
    Here you go:
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    Re: How we know the world is round
    « Reply #35 on: September 18, 2017, 08:19:49 PM »
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  • If you still can't figure out these scriptures, buy yourself a snow globe and then get back to me.
    I nominate this for the most protestant sounding statement of the day.

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    Re: How we know the world is round
    « Reply #36 on: September 18, 2017, 08:37:22 PM »
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  • I nominate this for the most protestant sounding statement of the day.
    God created the flat earth. The fact that there are still obstinate people on CathInfo today, who are refusing to understand the flat earth scriptures, proves that they are the ones sounding Protestant-Anti-Catholic.
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    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Re: How we know the world is round
    « Reply #37 on: September 18, 2017, 10:58:35 PM »
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  • The Flat earth is described in Genesis and other chapters of the Holy Bible. If you still can't figure out these scriptures, buy yourself a snow globe and then get back to me.
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    The "flat" earth is found nowhere in the holy Bible, but it IS found in the un-holy Koran.
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    You must be a Mohammedan pretending to be Catholic, for deception purposes.
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    Re: How we know the world is round
    « Reply #38 on: September 18, 2017, 10:59:25 PM »
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  • God created the flat earth. 
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    In your dreams.
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    Re: How we know the world is round
    « Reply #39 on: September 19, 2017, 04:54:00 AM »
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  • I did a word search on the word "flat" in the Bible. It is said 14 times and each and every instance it's used, it speaks of someone either lying flat on the ground or falling flat on the ground. Not once does it ever say anything about the shape of the world.

    As to your response, all you did was post some passages from Scripture with some comments. This does not answer the questions I have for you. I don't see anywhere in what you posted anything that speaks of the shape of the Earth. Also, what makes you believe that when Scripture talks about the Firmament, that this means the Earth is flat?

    even steven,

    The reason that you can't find it there is simply because that it not the way the ancients looked at it. It was not the most important aspect of the enclosed creation we live in.

    Today, that we are talking about creation in terms of the flatness of the earth is not the way we should be talking about it. It is more about all permanent aspects of Gods physical creation, which means the sun, moon, firmament, as well as the earth.

    The focus is on the earth because the science of the non-curvature of the earth is easy to prove.

    Have you looked at the videos concerning this non-curvature?

    Here's a start if not

    http://flatearthtrads.forumga.net/f9-flat-earth-proofs
    Eclipses neither prove nor disprove the flat earth.

    "As for whether or not I work for NASA, I'm sorry, but I fail to understand what that could possibly have to do with anything" Neil Obstat, 08-03-2017

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    Re: How we know the world is round
    « Reply #40 on: September 19, 2017, 04:55:57 AM »
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  • Tell that to your ilk here!


    Listen, can you just calm down and look at this rationally. Just above I posted a link to the proves of the non curvature. Have you looked into this?

    Don't just follow Neil, with his silly stupid memes please.
    Eclipses neither prove nor disprove the flat earth.

    "As for whether or not I work for NASA, I'm sorry, but I fail to understand what that could possibly have to do with anything" Neil Obstat, 08-03-2017


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    Confine 'em--please!/Re: How we know the world is round
    « Reply #41 on: September 19, 2017, 03:32:31 PM »
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  • Quote from: original-poster MyrnaM on Sep 17, 2017, 21:01:00
    [<https://www.youtube.com/embed/3EspZtA7C3o?fs=1&start=>:
    "Carl Sagan - How we know the Earth is Round"]


    Did you really just post a video from drug-using, well-known occultist, atheist and heliocentrist extraordinairre CARL SAGAN?

    Are you having a senior moment??

    The only aspect of MyrnaM's original posting that can be attributed to a "senior moment" was her awful lapse in judgement to infect CathInfo's </general-discussion/> with the tediously repetitive "Flat Earth" propaganda campaign that's already spreading like a cancer in CathInfo's </fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/> subforum, e.g.:

    •  Sep. 08, 2017, 12:22 CDT: 9 of 1st 9  topics!   4 of 2nd 9.
    •  Sep. 09, 2017 (time not noted): 12 of 1st 12 topics!   3 of 2nd 6.
    •  Sep. 10, 2017, 20:50 CDT: 11 of 1st 11 topics!  3 of 2nd 6.
    •  Sep. 12, 2017, 12:00 CDT: 13 of 1st 15 topics.
    •  Sep. 19, 2017, 15:30 CDT: 14 of all 18 1st-index-page topics.

    Isn't CathInfo clogged with enough of that Flat Earth Foolishness [†] in 1 subforum already!?  It's [expletives deleted] overdue to be confined to a child forum for which that confinement is enforced by Matthew's ban hammer (to be wielded also by Mater Domenici as the need arises).

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    Re: Confine 'em--please!/Re: How we know the world is round
    « Reply #42 on: September 19, 2017, 04:55:22 PM »
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  • The only aspect of MyrnaM's original posting that can be attributed to a "senior moment" was her awful lapse in judgement to infect CathInfo's </general-discussion/> with the tediously repetitive "Flat Earth" propaganda campaign that's already spreading like a cancer in CathInfo's </fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/> subforum, e.g.:

    •  Sep. 08, 2017, 12:22 CDT: 9 of 1st 9  topics!   4 of 2nd 9.
    •  Sep. 09, 2017 (time not noted): 12 of 1st 12 topics!   3 of 2nd 6.
    •  Sep. 10, 2017, 20:50 CDT: 11 of 1st 11 topics!  3 of 2nd 6.
    •  Sep. 12, 2017, 12:00 CDT: 13 of 1st 15 topics.
    •  Sep. 19, 2017, 15:30 CDT: 14 of all 18 1st-index-page topics.

    Isn't CathInfo clogged with enough of that Flat Earth Foolishness [†] in 1 subforum already!?  It's [expletives deleted] overdue to be confined to a child forum for which that confinement is enforced by Matthew's ban hammer (to be wielded also by Mater Domenici as the need arises).

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    Do you believe all Infallibly Defined Dogmas’ of the Catholic Church without innovation(s)?

    The majority of people on Cathinfo.com who refuse to believe that the earth is flat also do not believe all Infallibly Defined Dogmas’ of the Catholic Church without innovation(s).
    "I Think it is Time Cathinfo Has a Public Profession of Belief." "Thank you for publicly affirming the necessity of believing, without innovations, all Infallibly Defined Dogmas of the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church."

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    Re: Confine 'em--please!/Re: How we know the world is round
    « Reply #43 on: September 19, 2017, 05:40:44 PM »
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  • Do you believe all Infallibly Defined Dogmas’ of the Catholic Church without innovation(s)?
    The majority of people on Cathinfo.com who refuse to believe that the earth is flat also do not believe all Infallibly Defined Dogmas’ of the Catholic Church without innovation(s).[/b].

    You've posted exactly the same text in several CathInfo topics by now haven't you?   Doing so is a violation of long-established netiquette.  Yet again, you posted it as obnoxiously oversized text, which tells onlookers that you aren't convincing readers, so you're resorting to de facto shouting.  You still haven't explained that phrase about "without innovation(s)", which make it look as if you're setting an ambush.  And you haven't yet corrected your  use of an apostrophe for the English plural of "dogma", never mind the unjustified capitalization of the preceding adjectives.

    But thank you for so promptly confirming my summary:

    [...] the tediously repetitive "Flat Earth" propaganda campaign that's already spreading like a cancer in CathInfo's </fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/> subforum [....]

    Offline Truth is Eternal

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    Re: Confine 'em--please!/Re: How we know the world is round
    « Reply #44 on: September 19, 2017, 05:45:57 PM »
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  • You've posted exactly the same text in several CathInfo topics by now haven't you?   Doing so is a violation of long-established netiquette.  Yet again, you posted it as obnoxiously oversized text, which tells onlookers that you aren't convincing readers, so you're resorting to de facto shouting.  You still haven't explained that phrase about "without innovation(s)", which make it look as if you're setting an ambush.  And you haven't yet corrected your  use of an apostrophe for the English plural of "dogma", never mind the unjustified capitalization of the preceding adjectives.

    But thank you for so promptly confirming my summary:
    Do you believe all Infallibly Defined Dogmas’ of the Catholic Church without innovation(s)?
    "I Think it is Time Cathinfo Has a Public Profession of Belief." "Thank you for publicly affirming the necessity of believing, without innovations, all Infallibly Defined Dogmas of the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church."