I am a senior in high school and my school is novus ordo. Myself and a few of my friends who attend the sspv or SSPX are attempting to make our school trad. I am having difficulty doing this as: the “priests” were ordained in the new rite, they refuse to hold a Latin mass even with the true priest ordained in the old rite because they are “retired”, and the brothers are all typical 1970s modernists. 

I have attempted to spread the rosary and get the word out about the 15 promises, but the brothers say that I am “too rigid”. My sodality moderator even went as far as reading a book about prayer which was aimed for all religions, when I asked why not just tell the sodality to pray the rosary he told me “it is too difficult for them to understand”. My friends and I have been viewed as hardliners by the liberal religion teachers and they now refuse to let us voice our complaints: whenever I ask for the TLM to be said at school masses, the teacher says “oh yea sure we have been praising witches since the 1960s” to mock my dislike of the novus ordo. 

Earlier today I asked the newly “ordained” “priest” for a TLM and he said they dont have the resources and would possibly have to bring people in who knew it. Could I contact the SSPX for them to say a mass? 

It seems hopeless at this school. Please give me your advice. 

The school is mariantist for reference, you could PM me for the name of the school but I’m not that comfortable giving up the exact name to everyone because I am possibly the most outspoken trad at my school and could easily be identified by a modernist staff member who would like nit hung more than to see me silenced or disciplined. 

What you describe is humanly impossible.  The school is not going to change and become traditionalist because a few students want it that way, not under these circuмstances, not from what you describe.  I hate to say it, but if the school administration hears enough of this, they'll squash you like a bug.


I would say to use prudent means to try and get a priest who will celebrate a TLM, but that probably won't work either.


My best advice is to get your high school education over and behind you, continue to study and attend the TLM when you can, and move forward from there.

This is becoming more clear to me, so now the question would be: how do I get the students to tradition? How do I get my classmates to see the novus ordo sect for what it truly is: of the devil

Firstly, pray.


Secondly, fast if, or when, your state in life allows it. It could be diffiucalt being in high school.


Next, you have to use asymmetrical and covert methods to get your peers to hear you. Hand out info to trad websites that are a wealth of info on Church teachings. You don't have to agree with those sites 100% or even 80%, but they can still lead people to holy tradition and help them understand the pitfalls of the Novus Ordo. Make fliers and hand them out. Use sidewalk chalk to write down web adresses or to call attention to a Catholic or moral issue, or a thought-provoking short comment that clears their mind just for a moment so they will question the diabolical status quo. Write incredible but often censored facts on chalk/marker boards, and have the pull down projector screens blocking it, subsequently, when the teacher pulls it up - walla - a truth bomb for everyone to see and a commotion that briefly snaps some people out of their haze and might get them talking about it after class. Form a group.


The faculty and Newchurch roman collar-wearers are too far gone. They might even try to reprimand you. Don't waste your time on them.

I am a senior in high school and my school is novus ordo. Myself and a few of my friends who attend the sspv or SSPX are attempting to make our school trad. I am having difficulty doing this as: the “priests” were ordained in the new rite, they refuse to hold a Latin mass even with the true priest ordained in the old rite because they are “retired”, and the brothers are all typical 1970s modernists.

I have attempted to spread the rosary and get the word out about the 15 promises, but the brothers say that I am “too rigid”. My sodality moderator even went as far as reading a book about prayer which was aimed for all religions, when I asked why not just tell the sodality to pray the rosary he told me “it is too difficult for them to understand”. My friends and I have been viewed as hardliners by the liberal religion teachers and they now refuse to let us voice our complaints: whenever I ask for the TLM to be said at school masses, the teacher says “oh yea sure we have been praising witches since the 1960s” to mock my dislike of the novus ordo.

Earlier today I asked the newly “ordained” “priest” for a TLM and he said they dont have the resources and would possibly have to bring people in who knew it. Could I contact the SSPX for them to say a mass?

It seems hopeless at this school. Please give me your advice.

The school is mariantist for reference, you could PM me for the name of the school but I’m not that comfortable giving up the exact name to everyone because I am possibly the most outspoken trad at my school and could easily be identified by a modernist staff member who would like nit hung more than to see me silenced or disciplined.

What you should do is to study Summorum Pontificuм. Then get a group of your fellow traditional Catholics together and make a formal request in writing for there to be a celebration of the TLM. If they refuse then go to your bishop. If he refuses then go to the Vatican. It is important that you be respectful toward all of the legitimate authorities. Keep copies of all of your correspondence.
I think you should think in terms of the long term. It may not happen while you are in school, but if there is enough of a demand then it will happen.
One thing that I think is important and will help your cause is that you should in no way say or do anything that would tell the priests of the Novus Ordo that you are in any way rejecting Vatican II. That will strengthen your position when/if you need to appeal any denial of your petitions for the TLM.

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_commissions/ecclsdei/docuмents/rc_com_ecclsdei_doc_20110430_istr-universae-ecclesiae_en.html

Catholic in America,  are there any non Novus ordo pupils?

It will very likely that you will be asked "Why do you want the TLM? or words to that effect. Your response should not be "I think that the Novus Ordo is heretical." or words to that effect. Instead you should focus on a desire for holiness, for learning, for authenticity, and for a greater communion with God.  

So when asked a question, you counsel concealing certain motives. How revealing.

I neg repped him, not because I mind his opinions but basically because the post is virtue signaling.  "I'm better than all these trads who are against the NO" lol

I neg repped him, not because I mind his opinions but basically because the post is virtue signaling.  "I'm better than all these trads who are against the NO" lol

In her autobiography St Teresa de Avila wrote that she had to use subterfuge in order to get her first reform convent started.