Author Topic: How to Spot a Catholic Islamophile (Read 10170 times)

awkwardcustomer · « **Reply #15 on:** January 12, 2015, 11:59:19 AM »

Quote from: ggreg

Even if there is no God Europe will be "punished". Just take a look at history to see what happens when societies degenerate and do things like legalise and promote sodomy. Eventually they become so corrupted that they stop working.

Has any civilisation ever legalised abortion?

................ Look at the behaviour of people on Youtube on in the typical town centre four nights per week. Look at the drug abuse and the breakdown of families and the psychologically damaged.

Society is CLEARLY breaking down and unchecked a system breakdown must be on the cards.

Now, sure, there might be a grumpy old man factor in there. I accept that. But do you really think you can have 80 or 90 percent of young people thinking sodomy is OK and perfectly natural and then bringing up the next generation as psychologically stable people?

I don't. I think that accepting those sorts of perversions as normal is going to have consequences on one's own moral choices.

I agree that society is breaking down. But it makes me want to weep, rather than come out with all this talk about "chastisements" and "punishment". If Europe and the US crash economically and socially, and are also over-run by foreigners of whatever religion, it will be the end for both those societies. And they won't come back. There will be no conversion, no resurrection of Christendom. IMO.

But let's be more specific. It's very last remnants of Christendom that are being wiped out, never to return, in my opinion. So what's the good of punishing people if they don't know what they're being punished for. If Europe is destroyed, the survivors won't say - Oh, it's because we abandoned Catholicism! They'll say it's because we didn't stand up for our secular Enlightenment values.

You asked if any civilisation has legalised abortion. No, but plenty have practiced infanticide as a way of limiting their families. And had no problem with sodomy either. The Romans tolerated both and their empire lasted 1000 years.

awkwardcustomer · « **Reply #16 on:** January 12, 2015, 12:02:23 PM »

Quote from: BTNYC

Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey
Europe and USA took the silver and allowed these terrorists into our countries.
Our world leaders don't believe in God because they think they are gods.

Hear, hear.

What excuse is there that Chastisement is not richly deserved?

As to "relishing" that Chastisement - If the end of that Chastisement is Conversion, then, yes, I certainly do relish it.

But it won't be. And when it finally dies, it will probably take you with it.

But hey, bring it on.

BTNYC · « **Reply #17 on:** January 12, 2015, 12:54:02 PM »

Quote from: awkwardcustomer

But it won't be.

With what degree of certainty do you make this prognostication?

Quote from: awkwardcustomer

And when it finally dies, it will probably take you with it.

If it happens within my lifetime, yes, that goes without saying. As long as I die in a state of Grace, it matters little to me when or how I die.

Quote from: awkwardcustomer

But hey, bring it on.

Yes, that's right. "Fiat Voluntas Tua," not "mea."

ggreg · « **Reply #18 on:** January 12, 2015, 01:08:24 PM »

Quote from: awkwardcustomer

Quote from: ggreg
Even if there is no God Europe will be "punished". Just take a look at history to see what happens when societies degenerate and do things like legalise and promote sodomy. Eventually they become so corrupted that they stop working.

Has any civilisation ever legalised abortion?

................ Look at the behaviour of people on Youtube on in the typical town centre four nights per week. Look at the drug abuse and the breakdown of families and the psychologically damaged.

Society is CLEARLY breaking down and unchecked a system breakdown must be on the cards.

Now, sure, there might be a grumpy old man factor in there. I accept that. But do you really think you can have 80 or 90 percent of young people thinking sodomy is OK and perfectly natural and then bringing up the next generation as psychologically stable people?

I don't. I think that accepting those sorts of perversions as normal is going to have consequences on one's own moral choices.

I agree that society is breaking down. But it makes me want to weep, rather than come out with all this talk about "chastisements" and "punishment". If Europe and the US crash economically and socially, and are also over-run by foreigners of whatever religion, it will be the end for both those societies. And they won't come back. There will be no conversion, no resurrection of Christendom. IMO.

But let's be more specific. It's very last remnants of Christendom that are being wiped out, never to return, in my opinion. So what's the good of punishing people if they don't know what they're being punished for. If Europe is destroyed, the survivors won't say - Oh, it's because we abandoned Catholicism! They'll say it's because we didn't stand up for our secular Enlightenment values.

You asked if any civilisation has legalised abortion. No, but plenty have practiced infanticide as a way of limiting their families. And had no problem with sodomy either. The Romans tolerated both and their empire lasted 1000 years.

Well the sooner we get it over with, the sooner we can rebuild from whatever is left.

awkwardcustomer · « **Reply #19 on:** January 12, 2015, 01:46:18 PM »

Quote from: BTNYC

Quote from: awkwardcustomer

But it won't be.

With what degree of certainty do you make this prognostication?

Quote from: awkwardcustomer

And when it finally dies, it will probably take you with it.

If it happens within my lifetime, yes, that goes without saying. As long as I die in a state of Grace, it matters little to me when or how I die.

Quote from: awkwardcustomer

But hey, bring it on.

Yes, that's right. "Fiat Voluntas Tua," not "mea."

About 90 per cent. I think we're witnessing the revolt that St Paul warns about in 2Thessalonians.

As for your other comments - I agree entirely.

TheKnightVigilant · « **Reply #20 on:** January 12, 2015, 01:50:19 PM »

Quote from: ggreg

How to spot a weak man.

They start threads bitching and whining like spoilt teenage girls when people disagree with them.

No, they sit around like cowards waiting indifferently for the day when their sons will be murdered and their daughters raped, and tell others to do the same.

Examples: ggreg and BTNYC. Loyal dhimmis.

Traditional Guy 20 · « **Reply #21 on:** January 12, 2015, 02:12:44 PM »

Personally if a group of Muslims raped a daughter of mine I would have no problem torturing them and using my bare hands to choke the life out of them.

Be that as it may however the greatest harm to any young girl is not rape but being lost in the moral swamp called "culture" these days which promotes sex and the single career girl. That is the greatest harm to the West which has refused to have children and is dying.

TheKnightVigilant · « **Reply #22 on:** January 12, 2015, 02:20:29 PM »

Notice how loyal dhimmi BTNYC is already resorting to the Islamophile tactics outlined in this thread - he is accusing me of being allied with the Jєωs because I oppose the Muslims. This smear tactic serves to discredit my criticism of his favoured group. In fact, even a cursory look through my posting history will show that I am very aware on the Jєωs. For example my post at the bottom of the page here, submitted August 2014 :

http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=33131&min=24&num=3

Just shows you the kind of dishonesty these dhimmis will employ in their efforts to bend over as far as possible for Mohammed.

Traditional Guy 20 · « **Reply #23 on:** January 12, 2015, 02:31:33 PM »

Quote from: Centroamerica

How to spot a neo-con.....they use irrational arguments built on false pretenses like these>>>>

I am not defending Vigilant here but with respect in Europe Arabs and Turks are a far greater threat than in America, whose real threat lies to the southern border. In Europe Arabs and Africans have repeatedly rioted and committed violence in full-scale race riots, something we have not really seen in America (amongst Arabs at least, since blacks have rioted quite a bit the last 50 years). So yes there is a reason why people on the European continent like Vigilant fear Muslims more.

And please don't throw labels out like "neo-con" since it destroys the real meaning the word had. Real neoconservatives like Kagan, Wolfowitz, Perle, etc. were mostly Jєωιѕн who were former Trotskyists and leftists who migrated to the Republican Party after the counter-culture took hold in the Democratic Party.

TheKnightVigilant · « **Reply #24 on:** January 12, 2015, 02:53:10 PM »

Quote from: Traditional Guy 20

Quote from: Centroamerica
How to spot a neo-con.....they use irrational arguments built on false pretenses like these>>>>

I am not defending Vigilant here but with respect in Europe Arabs and Turks are a far greater threat than in America, whose real threat lies to the southern border. In Europe Arabs and Africans have repeatedly rioted and committed violence in full-scale race riots, something we have not really seen in America (amongst Arabs at least, since blacks have rioted quite a bit the last 50 years). So yes there is a reason why people on the European continent like Vigilant fear Muslims more.

And please don't throw labels out like "neo-con" since it destroys the real meaning the word had. Real neoconservatives like Kagan, Wolfowitz, Perle, etc. were mostly Jєωιѕн who were former Trotskyists and leftists who migrated to the Republican Party after the counter-culture took hold in the Democratic Party.

Exactly right. I have first-hand experience of Islamification, since I grew up in one of the most Islamified areas of the entire country, which I might add is the most dangerous place the country.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/forget-home-office-crime-mapping-1695400

Pics of where I grew up:

These guys are the members of a pedophile sex gang from the area, taken down last year. They abused and raped white children and forced them into prostitution. All of them are Muslim Somalians.

http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/Somali-gang-groomed-raped-schoolgirls-Bristol/story-24817770-detail/story.html

A mainly Muslim/immigrant drug dealing gang taken down in the area recently.

http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/Untouchable-Bristol-drug-dealers-brought-police/story-19990302-detail/story.html#ixzz3Odrz2CMb

ClarkSmith · « **Reply #25 on:** January 12, 2015, 03:01:43 PM »

Atheists, Jєωs, and Muslims are all enemies of Christianity. They all have the same goal. Why even argue about it?

TheKnightVigilant · « **Reply #26 on:** January 12, 2015, 03:23:45 PM »

Quote from: awkwardcustomer

Excellent post, Knight Vigilant.

But I wonder if those you would term 'Catholic Islamophiles' actually relish the prospect of Europe suffering for her sins. They want Europe to be punished. The 'chastisement' they predict will be well-deserved, you see.

That's the scary thing - they seem to want Islamification. They want to see Minarets on every European skyline. They want our Churches turned into Mosques. They want to see their sons murdered and their daughters raped! It's insane and suicidal. And they think you are a "weak man" if you dare to even speak of fighting back. They call you a "neocon" or "useful Goy idiot" for wanting to avert disaster. Yet these deluded fools act as if they are the spiritual successors of the brave men who fought the Muslims to defend Europe in the past. It's nuts.

One thing these people share in common with the liberals they supposedly despise is the shared desire for racial and cultural ѕυιcιdє via Islamification. The liberals call it "progress", the Catholic Islamophiles like ggreg and BTNYC call it a "chastisement" which shouldn't be resisted. They make for strange bedfellows. It's frightening how blind these people are. They're dupes for the devil.

TheKnightVigilant · « **Reply #27 on:** January 12, 2015, 03:38:55 PM »

Quote from: Traditional Guy 20

Personally if a group of Muslims raped a daughter of mine I would have no problem torturing them and using my bare hands to choke the life out of them.

That's right. Loyal dhimmis like ggreg and BTNYC on the other hand would probably shake the rapists hands and thank them for the chastisement.

awkwardcustomer · « **Reply #28 on:** January 12, 2015, 03:58:56 PM »

Quote from: Traditional Guy 20

Quote from: Centroamerica
How to spot a neo-con.....they use irrational arguments built on false pretenses like these>>>>

I am not defending Vigilant here but with respect in Europe Arabs and Turks are a far greater threat than in America, whose real threat lies to the southern border. In Europe Arabs and Africans have repeatedly rioted and committed violence in full-scale race riots, something we have not really seen in America (amongst Arabs at least, since blacks have rioted quite a bit the last 50 years). So yes there is a reason why people on the European continent like Vigilant fear Muslims more.

And please don't throw labels out like "neo-con" since it destroys the real meaning the word had. Real neoconservatives like Kagan, Wolfowitz, Perle, etc. were mostly Jєωιѕн who were former Trotskyists and leftists who migrated to the Republican Party after the counter-culture took hold in the Democratic Party.

I think Traditional Guy has hit the nail on the head here.

Centroamerica · « **Reply #29 on:** January 12, 2015, 05:48:21 PM »

Quote from: Traditional Guy 20

Quote from: Centroamerica
How to spot a neo-con.....they use irrational arguments built on false pretenses like these>>>>

I am not defending Vigilant here but with respect in Europe Arabs and Turks are a far greater threat than in America, whose real threat lies to the southern border. In Europe Arabs and Africans have repeatedly rioted and committed violence in full-scale race riots, something we have not really seen in America (amongst Arabs at least, since blacks have rioted quite a bit the last 50 years). So yes there is a reason why people on the European continent like Vigilant fear Muslims more.

And please don't throw labels out like "neo-con" since it destroys the real meaning the word had. Real neoconservatives like Kagan, Wolfowitz, Perle, etc. were mostly Jєωιѕн who were former Trotskyists and leftists who migrated to the Republican Party after the counter-culture took hold in the Democratic Party.

Xenophobes don't care if it is Catholic immigrants invading protestant countries or muslims invading atheist countries, which is a certain characteristic neo-cons share.