Author Topic: How to Celebrate New Years (Read 787 times)

Boniface · « **on:** December 06, 2009, 05:56:28 PM »

There are many holidays, New Year's Eve being one of them, when the world finds yet another excuse to participate in drunkeness and lewd behavior. While I am all for a good party, oftentimes I cannot forget how many atrocious crimes are being commited on the eve's of such holidays.

In my experience, many traditional chapels have some type of Holy Hour or devotions the eve of New Years. I think this is best - and to lay off the drinking. Jan 1 is a holy day of obligation - and a hangover is not good enough an excuse to be absent!

CM · « **Reply #1 on:** December 06, 2009, 07:00:04 PM »

THAT is a Catholic sentiment.

I have a quick question for you Boniface: Do you believe that willfully making oneself drunk is a mortal sin?

Boniface · « **Reply #2 on:** December 06, 2009, 07:09:58 PM »

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THAT is a Catholic sentiment.

I have a quick question for you Boniface: Do you believe that willfully making oneself drunk is a mortal sin?

There are certain things which we know are mortal sins. However, after having studied theology and being taught and mentored by several traditional priests, I can tell you that I have learned that what may be a mortal sin to one person is not always to another, and vice versa. That is why we have the Sacrament of Confession, where we can receive counsel.

However, drinking alcohol in order to get drunk to the point of not being able to discern your correct behavior is, ideally, a mortal sin - only inasmuch one has the intention of doing it to be truly wrong. Make sense? Maybe not. I am nto a priest - again, the point is, only one's Confessor can really counsel the soul as to what may or may not have been a mrotal sin due to the circuмstances of the event, one's mindset at the time, state in life, etc etc etc. There's a lot of psychology when it comes to sin!

CM · « **Reply #3 on:** December 07, 2009, 02:43:43 AM »

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There are certain things which we know are mortal sins.

Correct, when considered objectively, and this is exactly what I am talking about.

Quote from: Boniface

drinking alcohol in order to get drunk to the point of not being able to discern your correct behavior is, ideally, a mortal sin - only inasmuch one has the intention of doing it to be truly wrong.

I agree with your statement, although I wonder why you chose the word "ideally". Perhaps you meant under ideal conditions, meaning when one is not coerced, or some such? Also the part in bold seems like unnecessary verbiage. If one drinks too much but simply didn't realize how potent the drink was or something like that, then he didn't intend to get drunk, and that's what I was talking about.

I thank you for your answer.

Jehanne · « **Reply #4 on:** December 07, 2009, 06:34:31 AM »

Quote from: Boniface

There are many holidays, New Year's Eve being one of them, when the world finds yet another excuse to participate in drunkeness and lewd behavior. While I am all for a good party, oftentimes I cannot forget how many atrocious crimes are being commited on the eve's of such holidays.

In my experience, many traditional chapels have some type of Holy Hour or devotions the eve of New Years. I think this is best - and to lay off the drinking. Jan 1 is a holy day of obligation - and a hangover is not good enough an excuse to be absent!

We watch regular television (non-New Year's eve stuff) until around 11:55 PM CST and then "switch over" to a station that is doing a countdown. However, it does not seem to me that any stations are "in sync" with GPS time, so I have been using my cell phone and/or cable box time to "ring in" the New Year.

Boniface · « **Reply #5 on:** December 07, 2009, 11:36:54 AM »

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Quote from: Boniface
There are certain things which we know are mortal sins.

Correct, when considered objectively, and this is exactly what I am talking about.

Quote from: Boniface
drinking alcohol in order to get drunk to the point of not being able to discern your correct behavior is, ideally, a mortal sin - only inasmuch one has the intention of doing it to be truly wrong.

I agree with your statement, although I wonder why you chose the word "ideally". Perhaps you meant under ideal conditions, meaning when one is not coerced, or some such? Also the part in bold seems like unnecessary verbiage. If one drinks too much but simply didn't realize how potent the drink was or something like that, then he didn't intend to get drunk, and that's what I was talking about.

I thank you for your answer.

It's funny that you mentioned the 2 things I myself noticed after I posted my message. I agree, and yu are right - not the best verbiage on both accounts. I was in a rush at the time.