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Offline Vintagewife3

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How do you interpret this bible quote?
« on: February 23, 2019, 12:32:15 PM »
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  • 1 Corinthians 13-15 (Douay-Rheims)


    And if any woman hath a husband that believeth not, and he consent to dwell with her, let her not put away her husband. [14]For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the believing wife; and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the believing husband: otherwise your children should be unclean; but now they are holy




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    Re: How do you interpret this bible quote?
    « Reply #1 on: February 23, 2019, 12:47:46 PM »
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  • Just means if you convert to Catholicism but your husband is still a heathen, don't divorce him so long as he doesn't doesn't leave you and lets the kids be raised Catholic. 


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    Re: How do you interpret this bible quote?
    « Reply #2 on: February 23, 2019, 04:04:38 PM »
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  • 1 Corinthians 13-15 (Douay-Rheims)


    And if any woman hath a husband that believeth not, and he consent to dwell with her, let her not put away her husband. [14]For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the believing wife; and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the believing husband: otherwise your children should be unclean; but now they are holy
    Vintage, it is good to take a picture at what precedes and what follows:

    1 Corinthians, Chapter 7, 10-15 (Douay-Rheims)
     
    [10] But to them that are married, not I but the Lord commandeth, that the wife depart not from her husband. [11] And if she depart, that she remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband. And let not the husband put away his wife. [12] For to the rest I speak, not the Lord. If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she consent to dwell with him, let him not put her away. [13] And if any woman hath a husband that believeth not, and he consent to dwell with her, let her not put away her husband. ... [14] For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the believing wife; and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the believing husband: otherwise your children should be unclean; but now they are holy. ... [15] But if the unbeliever depart, let him depart. For a brother or sister is not under servitude in such cases. But God hath called us in peace.
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    The end (aim) of a Christian Marriage is the sanctification of the spouses, and as a result of that the sanctification of the offspring, the focus being Unity with God Himself. That is the be-all-and-end-all of our state in life. So we do our best to achieve it.
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    I would like to write more but I am called away.
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

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    Re: How do you interpret this bible quote?
    « Reply #3 on: February 23, 2019, 07:16:56 PM »
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  • 1 Corinthians 7. [14]For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the believing wife; and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the believing husband:
    This has been borne out in the lives of several saints, one of whom is St Virginia Centurione Bracelli, who was married to a drinker gambler but her devotion touched his heart and he converted and died a Christian death at 24 , leaving her a widow mother of two daughters at 20 years of age. She went on to live a fruitful and holy life, and her body is incorrupt.
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    Blessed Anna Maria Taigi was herself very worldly and had a total conversion after 3 years of marriage. Incidentally her body in also incorrupt. She had a major influence over the state of his soul.
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    Even in our own environment we witness the influence one holy spouse has on the other who maybe has no interest right now of uniting him/herself to Christ.
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    I hope this helps.
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

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    Re: How do you interpret this bible quote?
    « Reply #4 on: February 23, 2019, 11:32:19 PM »
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  • This is related to what is referred to as the Pauline Privilege.
     


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    Re: How do you interpret this bible quote?
    « Reply #5 on: February 27, 2019, 01:11:25 PM »
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  • Thank you! I’ve been trying to read more of the Bible lately, and parts about marriage. I just found this a little confusing as to what it meant! Thank you for explaining!


    Nadir especially!

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    Re: How do you interpret this bible quote?
    « Reply #6 on: February 27, 2019, 01:35:34 PM »
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  • You're supposed to go by how the Catholic Church interprets Scripture, not how you personally interpret it.
    Catholics aren't Sola Scripturaists. 
    The Catholic Church wrote the Bible.
    "Be progressive, vote for policies that reduce you to a minority and slowly erode your heritage and culture - NO THANKS!" - Dr. David Duke

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    Re: How do you interpret this bible quote?
    « Reply #7 on: February 27, 2019, 01:37:33 PM »
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  • You're supposed to go by how the Catholic Church interprets Scripture, not how you personally interpret it.
    Catholics aren't Sola Scripturaists.  
    The Catholic Church wrote the Bible.
    That’s why I didn’t interpret it. I asked people who knew better, and could lead me i the right direction. 


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    Re: How do you interpret this bible quote?
    « Reply #8 on: February 27, 2019, 01:45:17 PM »
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  • That’s why I didn’t interpret it. I asked people who knew better, and could lead me i the right direction.

    But they could be going by a personal interpretation rather than what the Church truly teaches. You're safer by researching the matter to find what the Church teaches or discussing it with a trad Catholic priest.
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    Re: How do you interpret this bible quote?
    « Reply #9 on: February 27, 2019, 01:50:28 PM »
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  • Not everyone has access to a trad priest. The sources I found online came from modernist, or Protestants.

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    Re: How do you interpret this bible quote?
    « Reply #10 on: February 27, 2019, 02:04:59 PM »
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  • Not everyone has access to a trad priest. The sources I found online came from modernist, or Protestants.
    The Haydock commentary is available online here: https://www.ecatholic2000.com/haydock/title.shtml


    It was written in the early 1800s by a Catholic Bible scholar so it precedes modernism.  

    Here is what it says about the passage you asked about:

    Ver. 14-16. Is sanctified. The meaning is not that the faith of the husband, or the wife is of itself sufficient to put the unbelieving party, or their children, in the state of grace and salvation: but that it is very often an occasion of their sanctification, by bringing them to the true faith. Ch. — Sanctification which has different significations, cannot here signify that an infidel is truly and properly sanctified, or justified, by being married to a faithful believer; therefore we can only understand an improper sanctification, so that such an infidel, though not yet converted, need not be looked upon as unclean, but in the dispositions of being converted, especially living peaceably together, and consenting that their children be baptized, by which they are truly sanctified. — How knowest thou, O wife? &c. These words seem to give the reason, why they may part, when they cannot live peaceably, and when there is little prospect that the party that is an infidel will be converted. Wi.


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    Re: How do you interpret this bible quote?
    « Reply #11 on: February 27, 2019, 03:54:43 PM »
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  • Not everyone has access to a trad priest. The sources I found online came from modernist, or Protestants.

    Don't be so lethargic. All you had to do is what Jaynek suggested that you read.
    "Be progressive, vote for policies that reduce you to a minority and slowly erode your heritage and culture - NO THANKS!" - Dr. David Duke

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    Re: How do you interpret this bible quote?
    « Reply #12 on: February 27, 2019, 04:08:05 PM »
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  • Don't be so lethargic. All you had to do is what Jaynek suggested that you read.
    It is not so easy to find if you don't know what to look for.  Now that she knows about the Haydock Commentary, she will be able to use it when she reads Scripture in the future.  

    It is better to encourage and help people to do better than to keep scolding them.

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    Re: How do you interpret this bible quote?
    « Reply #13 on: February 27, 2019, 04:10:29 PM »
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  • It is not so easy to find if you don't know what to look for.  Now that she knows about the Haydock Commentary, she will be able to use it when she reads Scripture in the future. 

    It is better to encourage and help people to do better than to keep scolding them.

    I like you, Jaynek. Thanks for the advise. I also know you're a true convert.
    "Be progressive, vote for policies that reduce you to a minority and slowly erode your heritage and culture - NO THANKS!" - Dr. David Duke

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    Re: How do you interpret this bible quote?
    « Reply #14 on: February 27, 2019, 04:31:39 PM »
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  • Ummm actually, I have 3 kids under 6 to raise, a house to manage not to mention all the errands a house wife does, and At night my husband and I work out together. So, most of my research time is gone. I come here because I TRUST the good people here to lead me in the right direction so I don’t get mixed up in modern sites. Jayne is right now I know where to go so I will use that.


    Do I do my own research? Yes, but again. I was running into more Protestant teachings than Catholic.

    Squid, stop making a million accounts, down voting people, and than telling them not to be lethargic. Have you heard of a job? Maybe you should get one.... I don’t think you could have picked a more fitting screen name this tim... actually... ingesting bacteria sounds more pleasant than running into you.