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Offline MrYeZe

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How Do You Deal With The Modern World?
« on: August 26, 2015, 11:25:50 PM »
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  • The glorification of disgusting sin and vice.  The unbelievable perversion. The constant blasphemy against God, our Church, our lady, ect.  The modernist church ruining everything the faithful Church has worked for.  No Catholic states in sight, only secular madness and Islamist theocracies.

    I've had trouble dealing with it before, but going back to college is harshly reminding me how unbelievably bad it is, as all American colleges tend to be. I'm honestly considering going on a retreat or something this summer after my confirmation.

    I know this is basically just me venting, and I apologize if I'm coming off as a whiny little crap, it's just that I'm kind of starting to lose it again with this recent Planned Parenthood debacle.  Not just the scandal itself, but the fact that so many people, either at the college, or Facebook 'friends' are wholeheartedly supporting it, and going so far as to rubbing it in the faces of the "Those ignorant dogmatists."  I would say I'm going insane, but it's hard to tell anymore, because the majority of people in the modern West are already insane.
    Better to illuminate than merely to shine, to deliver to others contemplated truths than merely to contemplate.

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    "Even if my own father were a heretic, I would gather the wood to burn him"

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    How Do You Deal With The Modern World?
    « Reply #1 on: August 26, 2015, 11:41:07 PM »
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  • By the way, I accidentally double posted this topic, so if someone could just delete this one, that would be just peachy.
    Better to illuminate than merely to shine, to deliver to others contemplated truths than merely to contemplate.

       -Thomas Aquinas

    "Even if my own father were a heretic, I would gather the wood to burn him"

    -Pope Paul IV


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    How Do You Deal With The Modern World?
    « Reply #2 on: August 26, 2015, 11:52:39 PM »
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  • This is why we have catechesis. God is calling you to give witness to his holiness by living and professing the truth that is the Catholic faith.

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    « Reply #3 on: August 26, 2015, 11:58:18 PM »
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  • “Do Not Love the World,” taken and translated from, La Folie de la Croix by Abbe Anselme Longpre, 1941

    I)What is the world which we must renounce

    The world is the church of Satan, like the assembly of Christians is the Church of Jesus Christ. The world is the mystical body of the devil, like the Church is the Mystical Body of Christ. Two cities, two kingdoms the kingdom of heaven, started in us by the grace of holy Baptism and developing in us until eternal life, and the kingdom of Satan, started by sin and developing in those who love the spirit of the world until the eternal death of hell.

    These two kingdoms evolve and develop side by side on earth, but one of them is “inside of us, regnum Dei intra vos est,” and the other is all exterior, sensible. These two kingdoms, which we call in modern language the Church and the world, make war on each other until death, are in continual opposition, do not get along, and will never be able to get along together. They are opposed to one another like death and life, nothingness and being, darkness and light. “Whosoever therefore will be a friend of this world, becometh an enemy of God,” declares St. James( 44). Referring to this battle Our Lord says, “Do not believe that I came to bring peace on earth, I did not come to bring peace, but the sword; I came to separate, to divide …

    The world, as is to be understood here, is evidently not everyone who surrounds us, or the earth that supports us; it is neither the human race; nor that which distinguishes the religious state (to leave the world for the religious life).

    The world, in the sense used in the Gospel, is everyone who thinks, speaks, and acts in a way other than the Gospel asks us to think, act and speak; it is everyone who wants to behave according to the light of reason only, without being concerned about Revelation. The world is all who, by thoughts, words, and actions, go against God, against the Gospel, against its law; it is a way of living naturally, which is not concerned with the requirements of the spiritual life, giving more attention to nature than to grace.

    Again, the world, is this vast and powerful organization of books, newspapers, theaters, amusements of all sorts, and productions of all kinds, which have as a goal, not the use, but the satisfaction of the passions, of sensuality; it is all the luxury, the apparel, the fashions, the customs, the ways of doing things and of living, which does not inspire maxims from the Gospel, but from naturalism, and paganism, which Our Lord came to tear us away from, so as to introduce us into the society of the Three Divine Persons.

    II) What Jesus thinks of the world

    - Our Lord pointed a finger at the world and accused it of sin; that is, He accused it of being one of the great causes of sin “cuм venerit Paraclitus arguet mundum de peccato; when the Holy Ghost will come, He will prove clearly- arguet- that the love of the world is the source of sin.”

    - Jesus Christ declared this world to be the enemy of truth “Spiritum veritatis quem mundus non potest accipere; the spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive.”(John 1417)

    - Jesus judged the world from the cross “Nunc Judicium mundi est; now is the judgement of the world.” (John 1231)

    -He cursed the world because of its scandals “Vae mundo a scandalis.” (Matthew 187)

    -Even when Our Lord was praying for his executioners, he did not want to pray for the world “Non pro mundo rogo.” (John 179)

    -Christ glorifies Himself for having vanquished the world “ego vinci mundum.” (John 1632)

    -He does not want His disciples to have the spirit of the world “Vos de mundo non estis.”(John 1519). He separated them from the world, and that is why the world detests them “Ego elegi vos de mundo proptera odit vos mundus.”(John 1519)

    Faithful to the teaching of their Master, the Apostles pronounce the same judgements against the world as Jesus did. Let us listen to St. John, “Love not the world, nor the things which are in the world. If any man love the world, the charity of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, is the concupiscence of the flesh, and the concupiscence of the eyes and the pride of life.” (1 John 215-17)

    “And be not conformed to this world.” St. Paul tells us in his turn. (St. Paul Rom 122)

    The world is the Antichrist, preparing throughout the centuries, the day when he will be accorded the plenitude of his power. Also a Christian who, by his doctrine and life, is not against the world, does the work of Satan himself and prepares for his coming. Be careful then of illusions. It is not enough to avoid obvious mortal sins. You have to hate the world and flee from it.

    III) Why does Our Lord teach us to flee from the world and its spirit

    -Because we are Christians the spirit of the world is incompatible with the Christian spirit.

    1)What is a Christian – It is a man separated from the world by his state, and consecrated to God. “Divorce from the world,” writes Mgr. gαy, “is the essence of the Christian spirit, since even children renounce it by procuration before being admitted to Baptism.”(Elev. 1 p.195). The Christian vocation, which comes from God, is first of all a grace of separation from the world. Just being a Christian obliges us to live in this spirit of distance from the world, from false pleasures, from profane joys, from luxury, from amusements, from customs of the world, and from all things which support a soft and sensual life.

    The grace of our holy Baptism is first of all a grace of death to the world and its spirit. “By baptism,” said St. Paul to the first Christians, “we have been buried with Christ.” That is to say, that as Our Lord, buried in the tomb, was dead to all things of this world, so the Christian receives in Baptism a spirit which surrounds him and obliges him to die to all things here below.

    Also, when the Fathers of the Church wanted to turn the faithful away from certain diversions and pagan practices, such as dances, games in the amphitheater, and frivolous amusements, they were putting forth no other reason than that they were Christians and separated from the world. “We Christians,” said one of them, “we do not go to the theater or to the circus because we are Christians; the pagans go there; but we abhor these pleasures; this difference is only a consequence of their religion and ours.”

    When Tertullian recommended modesty and simplicity to the Christian women, “You are Christians,” he said to them, “and as such, you have received a spirit which is not the spirit of the world. You are separated from all the worldly things which bring vanity, pride, and impurity. Being a Christian, you must not appear in the world except for exercises of charity and piety, and not to satisfy you vanity and self-love.”(De ornamentis feminarum). Happy times when such language could be used with Christians. Let us say it again it is better to form a single Christian truly detached from the world, than 100 who are Christian in name only.

    2) In the second place, love of the world is absolutely incompatible with the love of God, which is the sole essence of Christianism.

    Nobody can serve two masters we cannot serve Jesus Christ and the world at the same time. The great error is to want to reconcile the love of God with the demands of the modern world. This union is abominable in the eyes of God. A christianism which does not lead to a despising of the world is false If any man love the world, the charity of the Father is not in him.”(John 12)

    The person who devotes himself to the things of the world, its pleasures and vanities, will not know how to be devoted to Christ. Also, hasn’t Our Lord always demanded of those who want to follow him, the renouncement of the world.

    When God wants to attract a soul to Himself, He begins by inspiring in him the emptiness and nothingness of created things and a distaste for the world.
    If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.

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    How Do You Deal With The Modern World?
    « Reply #4 on: August 27, 2015, 01:23:22 AM »
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  • I don't think that the magnitude of evil in the world has changed that much. The ground has shifted. In the past these popular vices werre publicly repudiated, but there were other evils to contnend with, slavery, racial discrimination, social injustice.
    The question may be, "How do we function in a world where evil is the norm?"
    This is where we have to be prudential. What is the right thing to do in this or that situation. The society changes while Catholic morality hasn't.
    I recommend that you look for a good spiritual director who you feel that you can confide in.


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    « Reply #5 on: August 27, 2015, 03:55:14 AM »
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  • Splendid little piece to read Cantarella.

    Do you know anything more about Abbe Anselme Longpre and La Folie de la Croix? Who was he?

    Sincerely,

    Shin

    'Flores apparuerunt in terra nostra. . . Fulcite me floribus.' (The flowers appear on the earth. . . stay me up with flowers. Sg 2:12,5)'-

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    « Reply #6 on: August 29, 2015, 06:00:12 AM »
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  • Quote from: MrYeZe
    The glorification of disgusting sin and vice.  The unbelievable perversion. The constant blasphemy against God, our Church, our lady, ect.  The modernist church ruining everything the faithful Church has worked for.  No Catholic states in sight, only secular madness and Islamist theocracies.

    I've had trouble dealing with it before, but going back to college is harshly reminding me how unbelievably bad it is, as all American colleges tend to be. I'm honestly considering going on a retreat or something this summer after my confirmation.

    I know this is basically just me venting, and I apologize if I'm coming off as a whiny little crap, it's just that I'm kind of starting to lose it again with this recent Planned Parenthood debacle.  Not just the scandal itself, but the fact that so many people, either at the college, or Facebook 'friends' are wholeheartedly supporting it, and going so far as to rubbing it in the faces of the "Those ignorant dogmatists."  I would say I'm going insane, but it's hard to tell anymore, because the majority of people in the modern West are already insane.


    Know exactly what you mean MryeZe. For me, my wife and like-minded friends, it proves that, even after Christ visited man on earth and taught us how to live properly, the human race can again sink so low in sin and its denial that if we were God we too would end it all once more with a great deluge.

    But God has chosen to leave man for now as they revel in the fact that it is now the consensus of the majority and that the virus of sinful behaviour can be spread without opposition. Even after the scandal of the baby-parts slaughterhouse disclosure Irish radio gave 30 minutes to a woman canvassing for all out abortion in Ireland. And it looks like the pagans of Ireland will vote for this in the near future.

    For the few that still try to adhere to the teachings of Christ this is a new experience. There is so much of it in society itself that opposition to it is overwhelmed by the tactics of the Devil. We can only cope with it all thanks to the help of friends, prayers and mostly adherence to the Tridentine Mass.