I spoke to a guy that I weirdly consider a friend on youtube, and criticized how he always says people are going to hell and he doesn't seem to have any empathy and compassion for people who die... I mean, he champions the Dimonds, who posted a video the very day after Rick Moranis' son killed himself saying that he lived a meaningless life, that's a little cold, isn't it? I asked him if he would have no problem telling parents whose child just died that the child was in hell, and he said yeah... I mean, how sick is that?

In the Traditionalist community, how should we treat others who suffer from tragedies, like the Newtown shootings? Apparently some people think that this was all a conspiracy theory, which sounds like those psychos who say the h0Ɩ0cαųst was a hoax... apparently the Dimonds think this, too.

What should I do?


I'm sorry I annoy most of you.

Well sympathy for people who die or their families is different than government sponsord terror or exaggerated history. As the saying goes if you dont have charity you have nothing.
Telling someone their child is going to hell is not very charitable imo. Plus we dont know the internal disposition of this person eho commited ѕυιcιdє. Its my understanding that we can judge exterior actions but God judges interior dispositions so whethrr this fellow is in hell or not nobody knows.

Plus I wonder how wise it is to talk about other people going to hell since it is never more than one mortal sin away for anyone.

How do we react to tragedies?

     :jumping2:With inappropriate clownish humor!   :rahrah:  :dancing-banana:

There is tragedy and trad-gedy, (i.e. What was traditionally thought to be a case eliciting sympathy)

Someone upright living a normal life contracting a rare disease or being run over by a bus cannot really be compared to a base jumper smacking into a mountainside.

This "don't judge others and you won't be judged yourself" attitude, almost universal today in western culture, seems to have gone to ridiculous extremes.  I find it difficult to believe that any successful culture, Catholic or otherwise ever operated with that attitude; because it is obviously so stupid.

The case that particularly highlighted this, was four years ago when a member of an Irish Boy band and his ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ "husband" picked up a Bulgarian male prostitute in a Spanish holiday island nightclub, then went back in the small hours to have a drugged up three way ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ orgy and choked on his own vomit with his "boyfriend" and the male Bulgarian prostitute not noticing because they were in a drugged state of unconsciousness in another bed.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/stephen-gateley/6345265/Stephen-Gately-Bulgarian-says-he-was-intimate-with-Boyzone-star.html  

When a female secular journalist "Jan Moir" pointed out that drugged filled homo-orgies where not exactly responsible and where bad examples to youth she receieve more complaints to the press commission that had ever been received before.  She was accused of being mean, bigoted and intolerant.

The Irish Catholic Church, however, gave Gately what amounted to a public funeral with all the universalist nonsense you might expect.

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/'Stephen+touched+so+many+lives+in+so+many+ways'+Fr+DECLAN+BLAKE%3B...-a0239065594

Health warning, don't read the above comments from Father Declan Blake unless you want to barf.

So I guess, in summary, how one reacts to a tragedy should depend on whether one considers it a trad-gedy.