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Offline Catholic Samurai

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Being confirmed tomorrow ( today ) Sunday, April 10
« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2011, 06:42:41 PM »
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  • Congratulations Raoul! I hope your big day yesterday was most blessed!  :cheers:

    *Hey, Matthew took away my wine glass/toasting smiley! *
    "Louvada Siesa O' Sanctisimo Sacramento!"~warcry of the Amakusa/Shimabara rebels

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    TEJANO AND PROUD!


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    « Reply #16 on: April 11, 2011, 07:49:37 PM »
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  • Now you are a soldier of Christ!
    Please pray for my soul.
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    « Reply #17 on: April 11, 2011, 09:37:44 PM »
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  • I hope Raoul will share with us, the name he has choosen for himself.  
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    « Reply #18 on: April 12, 2011, 12:01:22 AM »
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    I hope Raoul will share with us, the name he has choosen for himself.


    Perhaps his avatar may give us a clue...
    Please ignore all that I have written regarding sedevacantism.

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    « Reply #19 on: April 12, 2011, 02:14:37 AM »
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  • Yes, I chose St. Vincent de Paul.  So now I am Michael Peter Vincent.  

    Thanks for the well-wishes everybody.  God has already given me great graces.  The confirmation was almost more powerful than the baptism, or at least I can see the increase of grace sooner.  God, it appears, was listening to requests I was making and had prepared some gifts for me that He saved for this special occasion :smirk:

    Readers: Please IGNORE all my postings here. I was a recent convert and fell into errors, even heresy for which hopefully my ignorance excuses. These include rejecting the "rhythm method," rejecting the idea of "implicit faith," and being brieflfy quasi-Jansenist. I also posted occasions of sins and links to occasions of sin, not understanding the concept much at the time, so do not follow my links.


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    « Reply #20 on: April 12, 2011, 10:21:18 AM »
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  • Raoul,

    For the sake of your soul you should get conditionally reconfirmed by an unquestionably valid Catholic Bishop.

    http://www.sspx.org/Catholic_FAQs/catholic_faqs__canonical.htm#thucline

    Are the Masses of Thuc-line priests valid, and can we attend them?

    I do not believe that there is a strong reason to doubt the validity of the episcopal consecrations performed by the exiled Vietnamese Archbishop Ngo Dinh Thuc. However, there are several lesser reasons, that might be considered sufficient to establish some kind of positive doubt in the matter. These include the absence of correct witnesses during the original ceremony of consecration, which was done in private, and in the middle of the night.

    Also relevant is Thuc’s confused mental state, as evidenced by his public concelebration of the New Mass with the local Novus Ordo bishop of the diocese of Toulon, just one month before these consecrations in 1981. Also, the lack of conviction can be seen in the fact that twice he consecrated bishops illicitly and twice he requested absolution from the canonical punishment of excommunication. These frequent changes indicate that he was a man who, to say the least, lacked conviction about what he was doing. This is further confirmed by his failure to join the Coetus internationalis patrum, the traditional group of bishops at Vatican II, and by a certain liberal tendency that he showed during the Council, speaking out against discrimination directed towards women and in favor of ecuмenism.. Consequently, although the logical thing would be to presume that he did have the intention of confecting the sacrament of Holy Orders, the absence of co-consecrators, and of a clear purpose, does open the door to some astonishment and doubt. Any doubt concerning the first bishops that he consecrated would clearly be passed on to any other bishops and priests ordained as a consequence.

    The moral theologians say that we must hold to the pars tutior, or safer position, when it concerns the sacraments. Consequently, in case of doubt, it would not be permissible to go to these priests for the sacraments, unless there was no other priest available, and in danger of death.

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    « Reply #21 on: April 12, 2011, 11:25:06 AM »
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  • Quote from: stevusmagnus
    Raoul,

    For the sake of your soul you should get conditionally reconfirmed by an unquestionably valid Catholic Bishop.

    http://www.sspx.org/Catholic_FAQs/catholic_faqs__canonical.htm#thucline

    Are the Masses of Thuc-line priests valid, and can we attend them?

    I do not believe that there is a strong reason to doubt the validity of the episcopal consecrations performed by the exiled Vietnamese Archbishop Ngo Dinh Thuc. However, there are several lesser reasons, that might be considered sufficient to establish some kind of positive doubt in the matter. These include the absence of correct witnesses during the original ceremony of consecration, which was done in private, and in the middle of the night.

    Also relevant is Thuc’s confused mental state, as evidenced by his public concelebration of the New Mass with the local Novus Ordo bishop of the diocese of Toulon, just one month before these consecrations in 1981. Also, the lack of conviction can be seen in the fact that twice he consecrated bishops illicitly and twice he requested absolution from the canonical punishment of excommunication. These frequent changes indicate that he was a man who, to say the least, lacked conviction about what he was doing. This is further confirmed by his failure to join the Coetus internationalis patrum, the traditional group of bishops at Vatican II, and by a certain liberal tendency that he showed during the Council, speaking out against discrimination directed towards women and in favor of ecuмenism.. Consequently, although the logical thing would be to presume that he did have the intention of confecting the sacrament of Holy Orders, the absence of co-consecrators, and of a clear purpose, does open the door to some astonishment and doubt. Any doubt concerning the first bishops that he consecrated would clearly be passed on to any other bishops and priests ordained as a consequence.

    The moral theologians say that we must hold to the pars tutior, or safer position, when it concerns the sacraments. Consequently, in case of doubt, it would not be permissible to go to these priests for the sacraments, unless there was no other priest available, and in danger of death.


    Good advice to stay away from the Modernist "popes" bishops and religious that are in tune with the novus ordo mess.  

    You Stevus, might even consider getting conditional baptism, the Church has said that heretics might not have administered a valid baptism, since they are outside the Church.  Although true, anyone can baptise as long as they do what the Church intends, but heretics do not want to do what the Church intends, therefore consider a conditional baptism for your own salvation and that of your loved ones.  
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    « Reply #22 on: April 12, 2011, 11:35:46 AM »
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    You Stevus, might even consider getting conditional baptism, the Church has said that heretics might not have administered a valid baptism, since they are outside the Church.  Although true, anyone can baptise as long as they do what the Church intends, but heretics do not want to do what the Church intends, therefore consider a conditional baptism for your own salvation and that of your loved ones.  


    It's not the actual baptism that you want redone, but the exorcisms.
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    TEJANO AND PROUD!


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    « Reply #23 on: April 12, 2011, 11:37:26 AM »
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    Yes, I chose St. Vincent de Paul.  So now I am Michael Peter Vincent.  

    Thanks for the well-wishes everybody.  God has already given me great graces.  The confirmation was almost more powerful than the baptism, or at least I can see the increase of grace sooner.  God, it appears, was listening to requests I was making and had prepared some gifts for me that He saved for this special occasion :smirk:



    Did it feel like someone just threw a heavy suit of armor on your torso?  :wink:
    "Louvada Siesa O' Sanctisimo Sacramento!"~warcry of the Amakusa/Shimabara rebels

    "We must risk something for God!"~Hernan Cortes


    TEJANO AND PROUD!

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    « Reply #24 on: April 12, 2011, 04:42:31 PM »
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  • Yeah, Vincent de Paul!!! He was on my list of 4 possible patron saints at my baptism a year ago now... I made the final decision on St. Pio of Pietrelcina , the man Padre Pio.


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    « Reply #25 on: April 13, 2011, 06:21:00 PM »
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  • Congratulations Raoul!
    Pray for me, always.