Author Topic: Hot off the Press (Read 497 times)

PinoyMonk · « **Reply #1 on:** July 10, 2007, 08:23:47 PM »

"It follows that these separated churches and Communities, though we believe they suffer from defects, are deprived neither of significance nor importance in the mystery of salvation."

"It is possible, according to Catholic doctrine, to affirm correctly that the Church of Christ is present and operative in the churches and ecclesial Communities not yet fully in communion with the Catholic Church, on account of the elements of sanctification and truth that are present in them."

Anyone see these passages (amongst others) as being just more repetition (rather than clarification)?

There's nothing to see here, people. Move along.

Dawn · « **Reply #2 on:** July 10, 2007, 08:54:04 PM »

That is why I posted it. You saw it. It is the same old, same old. Just alot of embroidery to fool the eye. It is funny how so many will be fooled into thinking he has changed his position on ecuмenism. I was so hopeful when I first heard this on the radio. Read the actual wording. BAH HUMBUG

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #3 on:** July 10, 2007, 09:48:49 PM »

Iow, the Church of Christ is NOT identical to the Holy Roman Church - it has a LARGER EXTENSION. This is heretical, friends.

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #4 on:** July 10, 2007, 09:52:23 PM »

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On the other hand, because of the division between Christians, the fullness of universality, which is proper to the Church governed by the Successor of Peter and the Bishops in communion with him, is not fully realised in history.[18]

WOW! The Catholic Church is NOT "fully universal"?????