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Offline Augstine Baker

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  • Edit: Yes, it's official, just as we said it would.  One of the most Liberal Cardinals in the American Church strikes a blow for political correction at the expense of the Catholic Faith.   The faithful priest, Father Marcel, has been suspended for doing his job.

    http://eponymousflower.blogspot.com/2012/03/washington-dc-homosexual-agenda-leads.html

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    « Reply #1 on: March 11, 2012, 07:55:40 PM »
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  • "At least one blog recalls the neo-Con and lefty inspired running down of Father Corapi."

    FR Corapi said for years they (homosexuals/liberals) were eventually going to get to him and they did.

    The old leftists in the NO church hold all the cards it seems.

    They are cancer eating it from the inside out.


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    « Reply #2 on: March 11, 2012, 10:05:33 PM »
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  • And the pope, who should immediately step in and restore sanity and justice, will do nothing.  It is embarrassing to be a Catholic today.
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir

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    « Reply #3 on: March 11, 2012, 10:37:56 PM »
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  •   Outrageous and frightening.  It looks to have been a set-up from the beginning.

    Looks like the witches and warlocks won this one.  The priest's background is interesting..I wonder if they tried to send him to the infamous St. Luke's for re-programming and he refused?

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    « Reply #4 on: March 11, 2012, 10:40:19 PM »
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  • People familiar with my posts here know that I am not a great fan of the SSPX.  Nevertheless, I hope Fr. Marcel beats a quick path to their door.  He did not act on hearsay.  He told the woman exactly what would happen if she approached the altar.  He does not appear to have been rude or harsh about it, beyond what was required by the Law of God.  

    As CI posters go, I am probably the most "liberal" poster here on the subject of homosexuality.  I think it is disordered, and acting on it is a sin.  I am inclined to sin as well, and feel no need to assume that my sins are less than another's.   Every time I attend the Divine Liturgy I confess that I am the first among sinners.  I try to mean it when I say it.  It is God's job always, and never mine, to determine the formal guilt of anyone for his sins.

    I certainly do not hate , or even personally dislike, homosexuals.  I have one homosexual friend, or as Matthew would insist acquaintance.  He knows what I think and is confident I am wrong, and I feel the same about him.  That has not stopped us from doing business together and occasionally socializing.  

    I am sure in the minds of many here that makes me soft on sin, or at least on this sin.  Nevertheless and even so, I am beside myself with fury about this.  I wonder if there is a single bishop in this country Catholic enough to share this feeling.  If so, he will rise up and rebuke Cardinal Wuerll to his face like St. Paul resisted...  Well, I can't finish that sentence.  It would require me to compare Wuerll to St. Peter, and on St. Peter's worst day that would still be blasphemy.  
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir


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    « Reply #5 on: March 11, 2012, 10:43:20 PM »
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  • Quote from: Sigismund
    It is embarrassing to be a Catholic today.


    No, it is not embarrassing to be a Catholic today.  Not at all.  We have work to do.

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    « Reply #6 on: March 11, 2012, 10:58:05 PM »
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  • Okay.  Well, I am embarrassed.  

    Since my last post, I checked my email.  This is from my son the Byzantine priest, quoted with his permission.

    I am never tempted to be come Orthodox because of the dogmatic differences between us and them.  We are right, and I know it.  If I were to be so tempted, however, it would be because I know that almost every Orthodox priest in this land would have told that woman to kiss the Chalice and return to her seat, and that there is not one Orthodox bishop in this country who would discipline him for it.  

    And from my gay business associate, whom I mentioned above,

    Well, it seems that the people who run the Church either don't really believe what they say the believe, or they are cowards.  Either way, it is hard to see why anyone on either side of this issue should respect them or pay attention to them at all.

    It is hard for me to argue.
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir

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    « Reply #7 on: March 11, 2012, 11:14:02 PM »
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     It would require me to compare Wuerll to St. Peter, and on St. Peter's worst day that would still be blasphemy.  


    Weuhrl, or however it's spelled, is an enemy of Christ's holy Church and a special friend to the Lavender Mafia.

    I think this Johnson thing might just blow up in their faces, though.



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    « Reply #8 on: March 12, 2012, 12:09:57 AM »
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  • Quote from: Sigismund
    Since my last post, I checked my email.  This is from my son the Byzantine priest, quoted with his permission.

    I am never tempted to be come Orthodox because of the dogmatic differences between us and them.  We are right, and I know it.  If I were to be so tempted, however, it would be because I know that almost every Orthodox priest in this land would have told that woman to kiss the Chalice and return to her seat, and that there is not one Orthodox bishop in this country who would discipline him for it.  

    And from my gay business associate, whom I mentioned above,

    Well, it seems that the people who run the Church either don't really believe what they say the believe, or they are cowards.  Either way, it is hard to see why anyone on either side of this issue should respect them or pay attention to them at all.

    It is hard for me to argue.

    I would say that the overwhelming majority of Novus Ordo Bishops don't have the Faith at all. They prefer rather, a One-World Church without any true discipline.

    The comment about the Orthodox doesn't surprise me. From what I understand, they still give out things like excommunication and temporary excommunications in Traditional EO countries for serious sins, and it wasn't even that long ago that you could find equivalent disciplinary practices in Traditional Catholic countries.

    On a relevant note, one sees a similar situation with things like abortion as well. An NO Bishop will usually denounce abortion and say that such and such politician shouldn't receive or be excommunicated, then the Neo-cons go gaga about this how bishop is so "conservative" or "Catholic," but when the rubber hits the road don't expect anything to happen in a pluralistic church.
    Pray for me, always.

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    « Reply #9 on: March 12, 2012, 08:06:24 AM »
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  • You need to be brave to fight the trend. Those who don't want to out of fear or indifference will gradually imbibe the changes if only for a quiet life. But conciliarism is a trend in spite of periods of conservative respite. Ratzinger and his hierarchy are committed to maintaining the trend and not to enforcing any residual Catholic practice yet to be phased out. Hence, priests not in tune with the times are on a hiding to nothing. Societal change will trigger more bursts of conciliar acquiecence which the reforms were meant to do.

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    « Reply #10 on: March 12, 2012, 08:15:52 AM »
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  • Quote from: Sigismund

    Well, it seems that the people who run the Church either don't really believe what they say the believe, or they are cowards.  Either way, it is hard to see why anyone on either side of this issue should respect them or pay attention to them at all.

    It is hard for me to argue.


    Me too.



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    « Reply #11 on: March 12, 2012, 08:21:15 AM »
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  • Since the late 60s good priests have been getting kicked out by their own superiors  for doing the right thing - just add this priest to the list.

    So now, where does he turn now, who does he have recourse too?

    Reminds me of this old snip........ The test is in what happens when one of your conservative priests ventures to tell the people the truth, when he begins not only to preach Catholic doctrine, but to condemn and warn against the false doctrines of his fellow priests and his bishop; ............  Then, the Conciliar machine kicks into gear and manifests that, despite all its vaunted tolerance and openness, there is a limit, and there are some things which "we simply cannot allow!"; then the glove comes off the hand and the iron fist is clearly revealed. - Ch.18 of Who Shall Ascend? - Fr. Wathen
    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man." - Fr. Hesse

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    « Reply #12 on: March 12, 2012, 10:40:37 AM »
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  • It was said that the "bishop" would never have given him faculties if he had known that Fr. Marcel was not going to play their way--or words to that effect.

    Holy Apostles, pray for us.  

    All of these stories are vile, but this one really makes my blood boil.


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    « Reply #13 on: March 12, 2012, 10:51:33 AM »
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  • The wretched letter sent out to all diocesan priests refers to the "grave nature" of the allegations against Fr. Marcel.  Give me strength.

    Also, he is from the diocese of Moscow, Russia.  But he grew up in the DC area.

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    « Reply #14 on: March 12, 2012, 04:25:44 PM »
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  • I will try to write this as calmly as I can as this story angers and saddens me greatly.
    I grew up in Pittsburgh and I can tell you even among nominal Catholics Weurl is disliked.
    I had already fallen away from the Catholic Church when Weurl was made Bishop of Pittsburgh. Nevertheless I remember how Catholics felt about the Parish closings and 'mergers'. My own Parish and Catholic school are no more, little chapels around the city are now businesses or Pentecostal churches. The rich ethnic history of Catholic Pittsburgh never survived Bishop Weurl. The Churches that ministered to immigrants coming to America in the early part of the 20th century are now a memory. The spritual state of Catholics were dismissed and ignored.

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    An article in the January 23, 1989 Pittsburgh Press, "Breaking Bread — Wuerl Wants Denominations to Share Communion," dealt with a meeting between the Bishop Wuerl and six Protestant denominations "to work with the Catholic Church toward the possibility of sharing Communion together...Wuerl stressed that local church leaders have had years of experience working together on social projects through Christian Associates.


    Yet the little Chapel on the South Side of Pittsburgh that still said the Latin Mass, the Chapel my parents used to attend was ravished in a letter stating they were "neither a Chapel nor a church". Catholics were told their souls were in danger if they attended. Meanwhile Wuerl was "breaking bread with Protestants".

    I will just say this out loud, this was one of the many reasons I started looking across the Tiber for spirtiual direction when I was young.
    At least the heretical fundamentalist doesn't back down from the homosexual lobby.
    This whole story angers me and make me want to weep.
    We need to pray the Rosary for this good priest, and that God will deal with this great injustice.

     

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