This actually happened last month but since the MSM is so slow to report
on such things, or else attempts to pass over them in conspicuous silence,
it didn't make headlines.  One has to wonder how 'silent' the MSM would
have been if the Pope had done the OPPOSITE? (from another thread):




Pope Francis:

Pro-Abortion Politicians Ineligible for Communion

by Steven Ertelt; 7 May 13


LifeNews.com                    

http://www.lifenews.com/2013/05/07/pope-francis-pro-abortion-politicians-ineligible-for-communion/

The Vatican --- A letter Pope Francis sent to the bishops of Argentina in late March is encouraging pro-life advocates because it says pro-abortion politicians should not be eligible for communion in the Catholic Church.  Pope Francis directed the Argentinean bishops to govern the Church there following the Aparecida Docuмent.  The text states, in part, "[people] cannot receive Holy Communion and at the same time act with deeds or words against the commandments, particularly when abortion, euthanasia, and other grave crimes against life and family are encouraged.  This responsibility weighs particularly over legislators, heads of governments, and health professionals."

"These are the guidelines we need for this time in history," the pope wrote to the bishops.

Judie Brown, president of American Life League, a U.S.-based pro-life group, and Michael Hichborn, director of Defend the Faith for American Life League, sent a letter to all U.S. Catholic bishops alerting them to what Pope Francis wrote.

"We are renewed in our joy over the election of Pope Francis.  One of the reasons for our happiness is the Holy Father's reiteration of Catholic teaching as enunciated in canon 915," the letter reads.

"We pray that these words will be an encouragement to you as well because, like Argentina, the United States has her share of Catholics in public life who persist in their support of abortion while, at the same time, receiving Christ in the sacrament of Holy Eucharist," it continues.  "We write to ask you, in view of this recent news report, to act on Pope Francis' call and deny the sacrament of Christ's real presence-body, blood, soul, and divinity-to every pro-abortion Catholic in public life who has not repented of his support for the heinous crime of abortion."

The communion issue was exacerbated when, despite their pro-abortion views, Vice President Joe Biden and House Democratic Leader Nancy Peℓσѕι both received communion..

< http://www.lifenews.com/2013/03/20/pro-abortion-biden-and-Peℓσѕι-received-communion-at-mass-for-pope-francis/ >

..at the Mass to celebrate Pope Francis' inauguration.  Biden's office confirmed to the Washington Times that he had received communion and reporters in the White House presidential reporting pool confirmed in an e-mail to LifeNews that Peℓσѕι had received it as well.  Pope Francis did not administer the sacrament.

Father Frank Pavone told the LifeNews he opposed the two pro-abortion politicos receiving communion since their pro-abortion views are outside the teachings of the Catholic Church.

The Priests for Life leader said, "At a Mass during which our new Pope emphasized the duty public officials - and all the rest of us - have to protect the weakest among us, Joe Biden and Nancy Peℓσѕι have the audacity to receive Communion while publicly renouncing their responsibility to protect the weakest among us."

"Some Church leaders mistakenly think we are advocating the use of the Eucharist as a 'weapon.'  In fact, we are defending the Eucharist from being used as a political tool.  These politicians have no respect for what the Eucharist means: an integral, consistent union with Christ and with all our brothers and sisters.  To receive Christ while rejecting the unborn is a slap in the face to both," he added.

So far, it doesn't look too good...................

 In fact, we are defending the Eucharist from being used as a political tool.

Can +Fellay say the same thing?  Oh, well, since he accepts B16's denial
of the principle of non-contradiction, a.k.a. the so-called hermeneutic of
continuity (which should be called the hermeneutic of subjective reality),
maybe on that basis he might say the same thing, so that the
Accordistas can feel good about it, without thinking too much of course.

So who has been refused Communion?

..at the Mass to celebrate Pope Francis' inauguration.  Biden's office confirmed to the Washington Times that he had received communion and reporters in the White House presidential reporting pool confirmed in an e-mail to LifeNews that Peℓσѕι had received it as well.  Pope Francis did not administer the sacrament.

No one.  And until I actually hear a credible report, I don't believe anyone will be refused.

Frankly (pardon the pun), I don't believe anyone will be denied communion at the Vatican either and since Bergoglio doesn't appear to "administer the sacrament" at the services over which he presides, it will always be reported that he didn't give a pro-abortion politician communion.  

Of course, there is still an out for American bishops.  Conciliar catholic politicians always claim to be "personally opposed" to abortion, just unwilling to "impose" their "personal views" on others.  American bishops will simply contend that these politicians aren't really "pro-abortion"; they're merely "pro-choice".

Can +Fellay say the same thing?  Oh, well, since he accepts B16's denial
of the principle of non-contradiction, a.k.a. the so-called hermeneutic of
continuity (which should be called the hermeneutic of subjective realitq),
maqbe on t`at basis he mig`t say the same t`ing$ so that the
Accopdistas can feel good about it, without thinking too much of course.

I have NO IDEA where that gibberish came from!!

The devil put his finger upon my text!! (Well, I can do better than the devil...
When life gives you lemons, make lemonade -- when the devil puts his
finger on your text, fix the text the way it should have been to begin with!)



Can +Fellay say the same thing?  Oh, well, since he accepts B16's denial
of the principle of non-contradiction, a.k.a. the so-called hermeneutic
of continuity (which should be called the hermeneutic of
subjective reality), maybe he might say the same thing on that
basis ---- so that the Accordistas can feel good about it, without thinking
too much, of course.


The last thing the Menzingen-denizens want is for the Accordistas to think!!

You don't have to be pro-abort to be refused Christ Precious Blood.  All you have to do is go to a New Order (s0-called) church and no one receives anything but bread and maybe wine.  No one receives Christ's Precious Blood.

Judie Brown has made Bishop Olmsted look like such a nice Pro-life nice bishop.  He is new order and he takes the peoples money and it goes to the campaign for (no) human development.  Any money that goes to these so-called charities, goes to march of dimes and other pro-abort organizations.  Any bishop that supports these is not pro-life.  New order is exactly what it is- a new order taking money for the federal gov't every time they are awarded grants!

Try telling that to Judie Brown, Frank Pavone. (Fr. Paul Marx told me never to give any $ to Frank Pavone in the early 90's. because he never spoke out against contraception.  But as long as anyone up holds a new order, they are not with us but against Christ and the powers of His Precious Blood.

I think the reason pro-abort politicians aren't denied "communion" is because the leaders of the Novus Ordo Church know that it's not really the Body and Blood of Christ, anyway. I mean, really: How could Dolan hobnob with Barry Obama if Crazy Uncle Joe were denied "communion?" If it were REALLY Christ's Body and Blood, they'd sing a different tune. These hirelings serve one master, and it ain't Our Lord.

Charlemagne, are you aware of how much your post here is indistinguishable
from what any Protestant would say?  I'm not saying you're a Protestant, but
what you say here is objectively identical to that.  Perhaps if you think about
that you might want to adjust the tone at least?  Because the alternative is
really bad news for you and others like you, which is getting to be far too
commonplace in this age of unfaithfulness.

Quote from: Neil Obstat

Quote from: Charlemagne

I think the reason pro-abort politicians aren't denied "communion" is because the leaders of the Novus Ordo Church know that it's not really the Body and Blood of Christ, anyway. I mean, really: How could Dolan hobnob with Barry Obama if Crazy Uncle Joe were denied "communion?" If it were REALLY Christ's Body and Blood, they'd sing a different tune. These hirelings serve one master, and it ain't Our Lord.

Charlemagne, are you aware of how much your post here is indistinguishable
from what any Protestant would say?  I'm not saying you're a Protestant, but
what you say here is objectively identical to that.  Perhaps if you think about
that you might want to adjust the tone at least?  Because the alternative is
really bad news for you and others like you, which is getting to be far too
commonplace in this age of unfaithfulness.

What I'm saying is that I believe the structure in Rome today is not the Holy Catholic Church and that the structure's purported sacraments are, indeed, not. I believe fully in the papacy; protties don't.

I hear what you're saying.  It still sounds Protestant, inasmuch as it denies the
objective reality of the Real Presence, under the auspices of some subjective
reality of your own -- you are passing personal judgment on the validity of
these sacraments, and you have no authority to do so.  Protestants err in their
denial of authority in the Church, and they claim that same authority for each
and every one of themselves.. which is precisely what you appear to be doing.  

Is that what you are doing:  claiming the authority to judge the validity of
sacraments based on something you have accepted as more authoritative than
the Pope?   BTW: that is Protestantism in a nutshell.

It is correct!  New Order is what it is just another new order, no religion and not instituted by Christ.  Therefore it is nothing!  That is why traditionalist flee to the Precious Blood of Christ.  You will find the followers of Christ where the the birds feed on the blood of the adult Bird.  You have seen this picture in your missals.  Any one on this forum that still believes in the True Presence of Christ in the New Order, is ignorant.