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Hobbledehoy: What Pre-VCII books do you recommend?
« on: December 11, 2012, 08:11:43 PM »
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  • I notice you have quite the library of Pre-VCII books.

    Which pre-VCII books would you recommend?

    For spiritual reading?

    Theology?

    And where would one go about acquiring these books?

    Thanks!


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    Hobbledehoy: What Pre-VCII books do you recommend?
    « Reply #1 on: December 11, 2012, 09:51:16 PM »
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  • I would be very interested in your recommendations too.
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    Hobbledehoy: What Pre-VCII books do you recommend?
    « Reply #2 on: December 11, 2012, 10:31:56 PM »
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  • I think Hobbledehoy is going to say "My private library is the best collection of pre-Vatican II books in the continental U.S."

    I am interested in hearing Hobbledehoy's recommendations.

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    Hobbledehoy: What Pre-VCII books do you recommend?
    « Reply #3 on: December 11, 2012, 11:39:25 PM »
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  • Quote from: stevusmagnus
    Which pre-VCII books would you recommend?


    I have been diagnosed with bibliomania, so this question can keep me all night long going on, and on, and on... So I shall give the best works that come readily to my mind.

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    For spiritual reading?


    First and foremost, Holy Scripture with solid commentary. The best book out there for the busy layman that I have found is Rev. Fr. Hugh Pope's The Layman's New Testament: Being the Rheims Text as First Revised by Bishop Challoner, Edited with Introduction and Notes (London: Sheed & Ward, 1927).

    There is also The New Testament of Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ Translated into English from the Original Greek of the Very Rev. Francis Aloysius Spencer, O.P., edited by Charles C. Callan, O.P. and John A. McHugh, O.P. (New York: McMillan, 1937).

    Loreto Publications recently published a translation of Rev. Fr. Cornelius à Lapide's Great Commentary upon the Sacred Gospels. I recommend this very strongly and without any hesitation whatsoever. The text is very faithful, and I have compared it to the old Anglo-Catholic translation upon which it is partly based, and upon the original Latin text.

    The great treatise commonly known as The Imitation of Christ. This is the best supplement to the reading of the Sacred Gospels, and is the best book for spiritual reading during Holy Hours, retreats, &c.

    Anything by St. Alphonsus: the Centenary Edition of his works of ascetical theology edited by Rev. Fr. Grimm, and reprinted reprographically in paperback form some decades ago.

    The Philothea, or Introduction to the Devout Life by St. Francis de Sales.

    Anything by St. Louis-Marie de Montfort: the recent compilation of his works entitled God Alone is actually very excellent, despite the numerous references to Vatican II in its notes, because the Priests and scholars who compiled and edited the texts and translations were very faithful to the original text and very thorough in finding the references which the Saint cited (which previous editions had not identified).

    Anything by St. Peter Julian Eymard!

    The Imitation of the Sacred Heart of Jesus by Rev. Father Peter J. Arnoudt, S.J. (New York: Benziger Brothers, 1904): reprinted in paperback form some decades ago and recently reprinted in a very handsome hardcover edition.

    From the celebrated work of Dom Prosper Guéranger, Abbot of Solesmes, The Liturgical Year.

    The Mystical City of God by Ven. Mary of Agreda.

    Some works that treat upon the spiritual life in a systematically theological manner are:

    The works by Rev. Fr. Garrigou-Lagrange, O.P.: Christian Perfection according to St. Thomas Aquinas and St. John of the Cross [Perfection chrétienne et contemplation selon s. Thomas d'Aquin et s. Jean de la Croix] (Trans. Sister M. Timothea Doyle, O. P.; St. Louis, MO: B. Herder Book Co., 1937); Three Ages of the Interior Life: Prelude of Eternal Life [Les trois âges de la vie intérieure, prélude de celle du ciel] (Trans. Sister M. Timothea Doyle, O. P.; St. Louis, MO: B. Herder Book Co., 1948); Three Ways of the Spiritual Life [Les trois conversions et les trois voies] (Westminster, MD: Newman Press, 1950); The Love of God and the Cross of Jesus [L'Amour de Dieu et la Croix de Jésus: Étude de théologie mystique sur le problème de l'amour et les purifications passives d'après les principes de Saint Thomas d'Aquin et la doctrine de Saint Jean de la Croix] (Trans. Sister Jeanne Marie, O. P. 2 Vols. St. Louis, MO: B. Herder Book Co., 1948, 1951); Life Everlasting ('Éternelle vie et la profondeur de l'âme] (Trans. Rev. Fr. Patrick cuмmins; St. Louis, MO: B. Herder Book Co., 1952); Priest in Union with Christ (Trans. Rev. Fr. G. W. Shelton; Westminster, MD: Newman Press, 1954); The Priesthood and Perfection (Trans. Rev. Fr. E. Hayden, O. P.  Westminster, MD: Newman Press, 1955); Providence [La providence et la confiance en Dieu: Fidélité et abandon] (Trans. Dom Bede Rose, O.S.B.; St. Louis, MO: B. Herder Book Co., 1957); Our Savior and His Love for Us [Le Sauveur et son amour pour nous] (Trans. A. Bouchard; St. Louis, MO: B. Herder Book Co., 1951); The Mother of the Saviour and Our Interior Life [La mère du sauveur et notre vie intérieure] (Trans. Rev. Fr. Bernard J. Kelley; Dublin: Golden Eagle Books, Ltd., 1948).


    The great work of Rev. Fr. J. Arintero, O.P., The Mystical Evolution in the Development and Vitality of the Church, which was reprinted by TAN. This is a very important work.

    Rev. Fr. Tanquerey's work The Spiritual Life, which was used as Seminary textbook in courses of Ascetical and Mystical theology.

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    Theology?


    The works of Rev. Fr. Garrigou-Lagrange: The One God: A Commentary on the First Part of St. Thomas' Theological Summa (trans. Dom Bede Rose, O.S.B.; St. Louis, MO: B. Herder Book Co., 1946); The Trinity and God the Creator: A Commentary on St. Thomas' Theological Summa, Ia, q. 27-119, ch. xxxii. (trans. Rev. Fr. Frederic C. Eckhoff; St. Louis, MO: B. Herder Book Co., 1952); Predestination [La prédestination des saints et la grâce] (Trans. Dom Bede Rose, O.S.B.; St. Louis, MO: B. Herder Book Co., 1953); Beatitude: A Commentary on St Thomas' Theological Summa, Ia IIae, qq.1-54. (Trans. Rev. Fr. Patrick cuмmins; St. Louis, MO: B. Herder Book Co., 1956); Grace: Commentary on the Summa Theologica of St. Thomas, Ia IIae, q. 109-14. (Trans. The Dominican Nuns of Corpus Christi Monastery. St. Louis, MO: B. Herder Book Co., 1952); God, His Existence and His Nature: A Thomistic Solution of Certain Agnostic Antinomies (St. Louis, MO: Book Herder Co., 1947).

    The two-volume work on Moral Theology by Rev. Frs. Callan and Hugh.

    Rev. Fr. Henry Davis's Moral and Pastoral Theology.

    The Mysteries of Christianity and the Manual of Theology by Rev. Fr. Matthias Scheeben.

    Rev. Fr. Thomas Livius, C.Ss.R., Mary in the Epistles, or, The Implicit Teaching of the Apostles Concerning the Blessed Virgin Contained in Their Writings, Illustrated from the Fathers and Other Authors with Introductory Chapters (London: Burns & Oates, Ltd., 1891) and The Blessed Virgin Mary in the Fathers of the First Six Centuries (London: Burns & Oates, Ltd., 1893).

    Msgr. Charles Journet The Church of the Word Incarnate: An Essay of Speculative Theology (trans. A.H.C. Downes; London: Sheed and Ward, 1954).

    The Dictionary of Dogmatic Theology (Rev. Frs. Pietro Parente, Antonio Piolanti, Salvatore Garofalo; trans. Rev. Fr. Emmanuel Doronzo; Milwaukee, WI: The Bruce Publishing Company, 1952).

    Rev. Father John Brunsmann's Handbook of Fundamental Theology (trans. and ed. Arthur Preuss;St. Louis, MO: B. Herder Book Co., 1932).

    Rev. Father Tanquerey's A Manual of Dogmatic Theology (trans. Rt. Rev. Msgr. John J. Byrnes; New York: Desclee Company, 1959).

    The set of theological works by Rev. Fr. Pohle, translated and edited by Preuss.

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    And where would one go about acquiring these books?


    The internet: Amazon (click the link on the top!), Abebooks.com, eBay, &c.

    Patience and persistence is key.

    Here is a very good place to find TAN books at a very good price: https://www.catholicbooksellers.com/merchantmanager/index.php
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    Hobbledehoy: What Pre-VCII books do you recommend?
    « Reply #4 on: December 11, 2012, 11:44:13 PM »
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    I think Hobbledehoy is going to say "My private library is the best collection of pre-Vatican II books in the continental U.S."


    I wish! I'm just some kid: there are others out there with libraries that are awe-inspiring and tremendous: the Loome Theological Bookstore being the best example that comes to mind, which is a site I failed to mention in my previous post and one I greatly recommend.

    The scholars at http://www.newliturgicalmovement.org/ must have awesome libraries that put me to shame.

    So many books, so little time!
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    Hobbledehoy: What Pre-VCII books do you recommend?
    « Reply #5 on: December 12, 2012, 08:24:59 PM »
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  • Abe books.com is a great site to find books from all over the world
    archive.org is great for building an e- :dancing-banana:library
    other bookshops where traditional books may be found are available just by  googling "traditional catholic bookstores", I don't know if I should list any particular ones here but just send a PM and I'll tell you some of my favorites, there are many.
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    Hobbledehoy: What Pre-VCII books do you recommend?
    « Reply #6 on: December 12, 2012, 10:03:13 PM »
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  • Quote from: Hobbledehoy

    First and foremost, Holy Scripture with solid commentary. The best book out there for the busy layman that I have found is Rev. Fr. Hugh Pope's The Layman's New Testament: Being the Rheims Text as First Revised by Bishop Challoner, Edited with Introduction and Notes (London: Sheed & Ward, 1927).


    Thank you very much for this recommendation. I was looking for some succinct commentary on the New Testament.

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    Anything by St. Peter Julian Eymard!


    I've read about him and his method of adoration according to the Four Ends of Sacrifice in Father Lasance's book Visits to Jesus in the tabernacle, but I'm yet to find any of his writings.

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    « Reply #7 on: December 12, 2012, 10:31:10 PM »
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  • Brilliant list, Hobbledehoy, thanks.

    Would you mind giving your thoughts on Cardinal Mercier's "A Manual of Modern Scholastic Philosophy"?

    Thanks,

    Thomas


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    « Reply #8 on: December 13, 2012, 08:24:38 PM »
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  • Hobbledehoy, you are absolutely spot-on with your list!
    If I may, could I contribute an author??

    My father-in-law let me borrow a book by a Fr. Crock.. "The Ten Commandments"... It was dynamite!  :reading: You can find more of Fr Crock's works on Abebooks, they are really orthodox and good for the soul. My father-in-law had every book of his except for two..and I found the missing ones on Abebooks! He is going to be SO surprised for Christmas, I can't wait to see his face!

    And I don't know if anyone else has noticed, but over the past 8 years TAN books, Leaflet Missal, and Ignatius Press are REALLY pushing more N.O.-type stuff! We have decided as a family to order strictly from Abebooks, Amazon, or EBay. Just trying to help! :pray

    Happy hunting! <3

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    « Reply #9 on: December 13, 2012, 08:31:54 PM »
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  • OH! and don't forget the trilogy by Archbishop Goodier..
    1. The Public Life of Our Lord Jesus Christ (1 and 2)
    2. The Passion of Our Lord Jesus Christ

    These books changed my life! Especially the one about the Passion! All of the books are based on the Gospels and kind of "fleshed out" with his meditations. The good Archbishop actually travelled the Holy Land, and you will NOT be able to put them down! :reading:

    OK, I think I am done.. (For now, ha ha!)

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    « Reply #10 on: December 13, 2012, 08:57:50 PM »
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  • Quote from: michaela benedicta
    Hobbledehoy, you are absolutely spot-on with your list!
    If I may, could I contribute an author??


    Oh yes, please: far be it from me to monopolize the list.

    Let's all contribute  :farmer:

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    We have decided as a family to order strictly from Abebooks, Amazon, or EBay.


    That is what I have been doing since I came across the internet, though I must say that most TAN books are very good.

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    « Reply #11 on: December 13, 2012, 09:01:53 PM »
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    Brilliant list, Hobbledehoy, thanks.

    Would you mind giving your thoughts on Cardinal Mercier's "A Manual of Modern Scholastic Philosophy"?

    Thanks,

    Thomas


    It has been sometime since I have read that set of tomes, and I can't seem to locate them at this precise moment, but I remember them being very good.

    The best series of philosophy, in my opinion, is that of Rev. Fr. Celestine Bittle, which was published by the Bruce Publishing Company in the 1940's and 1950's.

    Msgr. Paul Glenn's books are also excellent, but Fr. Bittle is way more thorough and detailed.
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    « Reply #12 on: December 13, 2012, 09:41:20 PM »
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  • More book recommendations.

    Before my CathInfo days, select tomes from my library were actually being propagated by a friend of mine in order to reprint them and offer them to Catholics everywhere, and these are books I heartily recommend especially for those who pray the Divine Office or who wish to learn ecclesiastical Latin.


    Note: I do not get any royalties from the sale of these tomes. The publisher is a man who has a large family and whose friendship has been most edifying for me. In exchange for sacrificing the original editions of the following books, I got this for free, which is a book I very much recommend for all biblical scholars: http://www.churchlatin.com/Books.aspx?BookID=9



    1) Ms. Vilma Little's Legendo, which is an introduction to Latin using exclusively texts from the Roman Missal.

    It can be found here: http://www.churchlatin.com/Books.aspx?BookID=82

     

    2) The commentary by St. Alphonsus upon the Psalms and Canticles of the ancient Roman Psalter (the one that predates the reforms of Pope St. Pius X and which was used by the Roman Church since Apostolic times):

    It can be found here: http://www.churchlatin.com/Books.aspx?BookID=38

    I think I wrote the description on the website for that tome.



    3) The very rare and edifying book The Divine Office. How to Say it Devoutly. How to Make it a Pleasure by Fr. Paul O'Sullivan.

    The very devout commentaries upon the Pater noster, Ave Maria, Salve Regina, &c., together with the instructions on prayer in general, make this book extremely valuable for those who may not say the Office but who recite the Holy Rosary exclusively.

    It can be found here: http://www.churchlatin.com/Books.aspx?BookID=36

    I believe I also wrote the description for that book.



    4) The incredibly rare tome The New Psalter with Interverse Translation by Rev. E.P. Graham, LL.D. The New Psalter is that of Pope St. Pius X, and it was quite new to the clerics who recited the ancient Roman Psalter up until the reforms of Divino afflatu were promulgated. This tome went on eBay for almost $400 a long while ago!

    All the Religious Orders of the Latin Occident eventually adopted the new Psalter, except for the Monastic Orders (the Benedictines, Cistercians, Carthusians, &c.) whose Psalter is that which St. Benedict arranged in his Holy Rule.

    It can be found here: http://www.churchlatin.com/Books.aspx?BookID=84

    This is really the best book to pray and study the Psalms and Canticles of the Divine Office, and its great arrangement makes the memorization of the Latin Vulgate and its traditional Douay translation very easy.

    Here is my favorite Psalm (because it is the Psalm I pray the most often, since I have many a reason to pray it), taken from the above tome:









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    « Reply #13 on: December 13, 2012, 10:43:26 PM »
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  • Dear Hobbledehoy,

    Not to throw us of track about the books, but you mentioned the Divine Office.
    Which one do you pray? A dear friend of mine gave me several good ones, but alas! They were all in Latin!
    Thanks to Divine Providence, I was able to order the version made by Baronius Press, if usher this year. It is really good, they did a wonderful job.

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    « Reply #14 on: December 13, 2012, 10:44:51 PM »
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  • Dear Hobbledehoy,

    Not to throw us of track about the books, but you mentioned the Divine Office.
    Which one do you pray? A dear friend of mine gave me several good ones, but alas! They were all in Latin!
    Thanks to Divine Providence, I was able to order the English/Latin version made by Baronius Press, they finally finished it this year. It is really good, they did a wonderful job.

    Love,
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    "God's power is made perfect in infirmity" --St. Paul