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Belloc · « **on:** December 15, 2009, 08:38:21 AM »

Matthew, thanks for this feature...to save a lot on stress and headaches, went ahead and used it 2x already!!

CM/Raoul, sorry guys, I used the hide button your posts......

CM · « **Reply #1 on:** December 15, 2009, 09:29:17 AM »

I wonder how many people do this with their conscience?

Vladimir · « **Reply #2 on:** December 15, 2009, 09:36:38 AM »

It appears that Belloc and I are of like mind.

Matthew · « **Reply #3 on:** December 15, 2009, 09:42:59 AM »

I do know that some people stopped coming to CathInfo because they were annoyed at the large sedevacantist contingent.

Wouldn't it be better, for them, to have a forum like CathInfo only without the posts that annoy them/tempt them to anger/etc.?

I think so.

I don't believe the Ignore function is for everyone, nor should it be used on just anyone :)

But for that one or two people who tend to ruin the CathInfo experience for YOU -- it could really make CathInfo a more pleasant place.

Everyone has a person or two that just get on your nerves. If you want to offer up the annoyance for your spiritual growth, like Raoul has stated, then great. But if the "spiritual growth" isn't happening, and you just find yourself angry/annoyed/wondering if you should quit CathInfo -- then USE THE IGNORE BUTTON ALREADY!

It is NOT as though EVERYONE must engage in EVERY mortification there is, all at once! That wouldn't be prudent. Sometimes you have to do what is prudent.

CM · « **Reply #4 on:** December 15, 2009, 10:13:18 AM »

Quote from: Matthew

It is NOT as though EVERYONE must engage in EVERY mortification there is, all at once! That wouldn't be prudent.

Certainly true.

Belloc · « **Reply #5 on:** December 15, 2009, 10:14:56 AM »

Quote from: Vladimir

It appears that Belloc and I are of like mind.

figured it was better that way-less frustrating and annoying....Matthews comments taken to heart as well....

CM · « **Reply #6 on:** December 15, 2009, 10:18:50 AM »

There's nothing more frustrating than saying another person is wrong, and then not being able to back up the assertion with logical and honest argument.

Which is why I choose, rather than to become frustrated, to change my position when I'm faced with opposition for which I have no ability to present logical honest argument.

Matthew · « **Reply #7 on:** December 15, 2009, 10:39:20 AM »

You also have to realize that for some people, they HAVE to convince another person of their position, and after they've beat the same dead horse for months, they can't stop themselves.

They beat the dead horse some more out of frustration, and start calling names, etc. because their opponent hasn't yet "come around" to their way of thinking.

But once you've told another person "the truth" or "admonished him" in his error/sin, you have a clear conscience in the matter. Members should be able to roll up the window and drive off, after they -- with their free will -- have chosen to reject your view on a matter.

What, do we have a right to harass people now? NAME ME ONE TIME when harassing someone caused a conversion. As a matter of fact, once you enter the "harassing" stage, the person becomes set in their ways, out of principle/stubbornness if nothing else.

God bless,

Matthew

CM · « **Reply #8 on:** December 15, 2009, 10:44:28 AM »

We have as much right to "harass people" as we do to put words in their mouths Matthew.

Belloc · « **Reply #9 on:** December 15, 2009, 10:46:54 AM »

Quote from: Matthew

NAME ME ONE TIME when harassing someone caused a conversion. As a matter of fact, once you enter the "harassing" stage, the person becomes set in their ways, out of principle/stubbornness if nothing else.

God bless,

Matthew

actually, none at all-I have seen people argue, insult, jump up/down (literally) and this has only driven people further into their errors. One Prt lady I know was interested in Catholicism, she was starting to move toward it, then this happened and this person-and others-have driven her farther into her Prot faith and she has now displayed no interest in the Faith at all.....to the fellow I refer to, he has yet to date acknowledged his way wa wrong, he jsut shrugs and figures she is still either obstinate or "obviously" not drawn to the Faith and hence, not determined to be one of the saved.....a Calvinistic view.....

attitude and example are 2 of the biggest ways to convert and allow the H.G. to work through you....or you get in His way...

Likely this will not register with some and has not with this fellow.......

You can be right in theology, but wrong in delivery and screw it all up........

littlerose · « **Reply #10 on:** December 15, 2009, 10:52:34 AM »

Quote from: Matthew

You also have to realize that for some people, they HAVE to convince another person of their position, and after they've beat the same dead horse for months, they can't stop themselves.

They beat the dead horse some more out of frustration, and start calling names, etc. because their opponent hasn't yet "come around" to their way of thinking.

But once you've told another person "the truth" or "admonished him" in his error/sin, you have a clear conscience in the matter. Members should be able to roll up the window and drive off, after they -- with their free will -- have chosen to reject your view on a matter.

What, do we have a right to harass people now? NAME ME ONE TIME when harassing someone caused a conversion. As a matter of fact, once you enter the "harassing" stage, the person becomes set in their ways, out of principle/stubbornness if nothing else.

God bless,

Matthew

So true! No one seems to realize that when they die, their entrance to heaven won't be based on having lost an argument with a more persistent witnesser.

Example: I was witnessed some of the truth that is carried in Pentecostal circles and when I agreed with the witness that he was right about the promises of Jesus, he thought he had proved the Catholic church wrong to provide ritual prayer, the Saints, etc.

I said "But wait a minute, when I was small the nuns told us that the Virgin Mary promised that we would not die without going to heaven if we finished our novena of Frist Fridays, and when I was in fifth grade, I did successfully finish the Novena, so the Virgin Mary kept her promise by bringing you to witness to me about the truth of the Pentecost, right?"

He had nothing to say, just a shocked look on his face, and finally: "B-but b-but...NO!"

*LOL* He was also a lapsed Catholic. I wonder if he has found his way back home, yet? And if he has, if that conversation about the protective work of the Virgin Mother had anything to do with it?

Belloc · « **Reply #11 on:** December 15, 2009, 10:56:52 AM »

But note, you did not yell, quote latin phrases to him of which he would have no knowledge, nor jump up and down, nor say to him "well, you are going to hell"........sounds like you tried to handle it calmly, debunk his indoctrination.......

of note, the Prot lady I mentioned in the previous post had lost her dad 1 month to the day of the conversation and the fellow started it like "only Catholics go to Heaven" and never explained anything more, leaving this woman with conclusion that Dad was prot automatically = Hell for him......nice way to shut her down!! Really opening some doors there...!!

CM · « **Reply #12 on:** December 15, 2009, 11:00:29 AM »

Quote from: Matthew

But once you've told another person "the truth" or "admonished him" in his error/sin, you have a clear conscience in the matter.

Certainly.

Quote from: Matthew

What, do we have a right to harass people now? NAME ME ONE TIME when harassing someone caused a conversion.

I this an implication that I harass people? I imagine it is not, for otherwise you would have banned me long ago.

Quote from: Belloc

You can be right in theology, but wrong in delivery and screw it all up........

What about when someone presents his argument with Scripture, Tradition and the Magisterium as supports, refrains from making it a personal issue and rationally debates the matter, focusing on the issues and not the person - and is met nevertheless with logical fallacies and name calling? Is his delivery "screwed up"?

What about when he asks his opponent questions, the answer to which his opponent both knows and realizes the they disintegrate his own position, and therefore he diverts or runs away? Has the one asking the questions "screwed up" his delivery in this case as well?

littlerose · « **Reply #13 on:** December 15, 2009, 11:02:26 AM »

Frankly, I don't think the "only Catholics go to Heaven" is exactly doctrinal, anyway. Isn't there room for God's understanding of the limitations in a person's lifetime? Seems to me only those who willfully reject the Holy Spirit, which witnesses in their hearts and not only through the mouths of men, are the ones who are rejected.

If a person hears the truth but does not follow through with conversion because of human cruelty in the other Catholics, then the punishment is on those who put the obstacles in the way of conversion, not on the person who might have privately accepted the truth without outwardly showing it.

CM · « **Reply #14 on:** December 15, 2009, 11:03:54 AM »

Quote from: Belloc

of note, the Prot lady I mentioned in the previous post had lost her dad 1 month to the day of the conversation and the fellow started it like "only Catholics go to Heaven" and never explained anything more, leaving this woman with conclusion that Dad was prot automatically = Hell for him......nice way to shut her down!! Really opening some doors there...!!

A much better thing to say would have been "You have to become Catholic to get to heaven, please let me explain why,"