Author Topic: Should high paid pro atheletes get paternity leave ? (Read 1918 times)

Sigismund · « **Reply #30 on:** April 07, 2014, 09:22:43 PM »

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I was present for the birth of every one of my children. I owned the company, so there was no one who could tell me I could not be. I made sure that the male employees who worked for me could be present for the birth of their children.

The suggestion that work, especially work so irrelevant and pointless as professional sports, should get in the way of this is simply stupid. Are you married, Corssbro? Any children yet? If not, please don't lecture those of us who are about taking care of our families. And if so, literally for God's sake get your priorities straight.

The reason why certain people have never married is painfully obvious to everyone around them once they begin to share their ideas on married life. :ape:

sigismund glad you gave your employees the day off even though they had multi-million dollar contracts and tens of thousands of fans waiting to watch them play. Sports might be pointless and irrelevant to you, but I am sure those players who earn millions and the fans who pay hundreds to watch games feel differently.

Mabel perhaps your post would have had the sting in it you intended if it were not for the fact that I lived with a woman for 5 years back in my 20s and dumped her when she would not accept the fact I was not interested in marriage. I have been proposed to since then and quickly ended those relationships.

I probably won't have much luck finding a fitting woman going to a TLMer chapel, I find most of those type of women boring and for some reason most seem to have a stale and obnoxious odor. Most of them are also snide and uppity and quick with insults.

I am a bit puzzled by the notion that becasue a man is wealthy he can shirk his responsibilities to his child and his wife. How exactly does a Catholic come to that conclusion?

Sigismund · « **Reply #31 on:** April 07, 2014, 09:25:50 PM »

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Insult of "traditional" Catholic women aside and aside from crossbro's poor choice of words and actions crossbro is right in that most of your "Trad" girls are very uppity and look down on those like myself who enter those churches. In fact a lot of "Trad" girls spoiled by their father, have no ideal work ethic and despise hard work other than showing how good of a "housewife" they can be, and even that is more for vanity about themselves rather than actual care for their husband and children.

I'm not going to argue that pro-athletes should not see their children being born but on other grounds women do not understand that sometimes a "man has to do what a man has to do." And that is why women are the loudest to complain about a man "boxing for existence," or their husband doing his duty and doing military service, or their husband not spending time with her or the children since he has to work for their existence.

There are times when a man's job would unavoidably keep him from being present at the birth of a child. Military deployment is an excellent example of this. A man who would lose his job and be unable to care for his family would be another, although his employer will have to answer to God for putting him in this position. I don't think we really disagree here (about the birth question anyway), but I wanted to be clear.

wallflower · « **Reply #32 on:** April 09, 2014, 11:34:16 AM »

Traditional Catholic Guy have you considered visiting more rural Mass centers? I think your view is a bit exaggerated, nonetheless probably seems very real to you if that's all you've seen. If you were to visit a rural center, you may find a very different story regarding white collar/vs blue collar. I wish they were not at odds and could appreciate each other but real life being what it is, maybe you simply need to see other places where the men are manual laborers and the women and children appreciate their blood, sweat and tears. They are out there in abundance, you probably just aren't getting out enough.

Traditional Guy 20 · « **Reply #33 on:** April 09, 2014, 08:05:54 PM »

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Are you suggesting that it's preferable that Catholic women work outside the home?

I don't think women should work outside the home once they have children no, but I am speaking of an overall work ethic whether they are inside and outside the home. I can bet you if those Trad fathers had their "little princesses" raking half an acre of leaves when they're 7 years old or to be athletic in high school those girls would have quite a different outlook on a man who does hard work for existence, since they would have empathy for it.

Traditional Guy 20 · « **Reply #34 on:** April 09, 2014, 08:36:12 PM »

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Traditional Catholic Guy have you considered visiting more rural Mass centers? I think your view is a bit exaggerated, nonetheless probably seems very real to you if that's all you've seen. If you were to visit a rural center, you may find a very different story regarding white collar/vs blue collar. I wish they were not at odds and could appreciate each other but real life being what it is, maybe you simply need to see other places where the men are manual laborers and the women and children appreciate their blood, sweat and tears. They are out there in abundance, you probably just aren't getting out enough.

This could be true. The Traditional Latin Mass I attend is in the heart of the city, in a big urban area, so the Trad fathers and their families there could be lawyers, doctors, government workers, etc. for all I know.