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  • "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."


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    « Reply #1 on: February 28, 2009, 07:45:42 PM »
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  • By coming down in so heavy-handed a manner, the desired effect, with respect to the shell-shocked flock who read the email (at least 11 of them), was, in the main, achieved.  One friend did step in to say, publicly, that I am not mentally ill (and he has studied psychology at the graduate level).  He and his poor wife (whose involvement is still less than clear to me at this point) were dragged into a meeting, the man was told to sign papers disowning what he had previously said and knew to be true, or NEITHER could come back to SGG (although police involvement was not mentioned).
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    « Reply #2 on: February 28, 2009, 07:54:43 PM »
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  • This is a brief response I sent to several people, letting Father know the state of affairs at that time.
    Dear Father Cekada,

    Although your impressive, virtuoso usage of every communist smear tactic in the book has likely shocked and/or frightened many of those who read your attempted character assassination (annihilation?) of me, I thought you might like to know that I have already been told by some that they not only do not believe your claim/s, they think your actions were completely over the top (and this is not getting into the number of those who agree with my assessment of your school and staff, mind games, etc.).

    I have sent this email to six people, BCC (you will have to take my word, as an honest, although mentally ill, man).  Three people flatly deny your claim about my mental state, and one expressed uncertainty (which is not surprising, as he is a kind and obedient soul who wants to believe his priest, and we have spoken for a total of 30 seconds or so during our lives) - while a total of ZERO (0) have affirmed your assessment.  Something tells me no one will - just a hunch, though.  Further, one of the other two is, I know for a fact, certain that your claim is absurd.  Now, you could take the list of people to whom you sent your email, do a little math, and ascertain the probability that certain individuals are on my BCC line.  Then, you could call them into your office, give them 'the business' in person, and hope they will be sufficiently intimidated to follow your instructions.  That failing or seeming inefficient, you could call them all in, and do the same.  Finally, you could just go 'straight up cult', and tell everyone, from the pulpit or another way of your choosing, that all contact with me, whether on or off SGG property, personal or professional, indoors or out, in fair weather or foul, by phone or email, hook or crook, is most strictly verboten.  "Heil...!"  As it is such a popular and effective tool these days for intimidating the sheep, you could, if necessary, employ the Sacraments as weapons - pretending, of course, that you are only safe-guarding the other sheep.  If you would like any more tips as to how to go about exerting maximum, cult-like control, you know how to reach me.  God speed.

    Eamon 'the looney loon' Shea

    If you need to discuss these matters over the phone, my number is...
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    « Reply #3 on: February 28, 2009, 08:20:30 PM »
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  • Matthew, if you need me to show you the proof that Fr.'s email was sent to 11 others, please let me know.  Did you happen to notice the kindly, shepherd-like instructions on how to handle detracting emails, "brilliantly" inserted after the mother of them all?
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    « Reply #4 on: March 01, 2009, 02:03:11 PM »
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    PS to parishioners:

    ...

    -- Fr. Cekada


    This line alone ought to make it plain that this was sent to more than just myself.

    Let us pretend every single line of his "history" is true.  So what?  It would still be detraction of a most grave variety.

    Why do I make it known to others?  Not to clear my name, as I could care less what a psychopath says about me.  It IS important, however, that others learn that he IS a psychopath.  That is why, as the days roll forward, I will share the real facts where the incidents he mentions are concerned.  What is REALLY embarrassing is how easy it will be to show that his "history" is rather out of touch with reality.
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    « Reply #5 on: April 05, 2009, 01:24:58 PM »
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  • The good Father fails to mention that, after I was fired from my post as a teacher (which did not happen as he relates), I continued to assist at Mass at St. Gertrude the Great for more than four months.  The reason I stopped?  Well, I MOVED to another state.  During this almost five month period, the man had set up rules for me regarding access to certain portions of their property on certain days during certain hours, but there was never a question of being allowed at Mass, in the church whenever open, etc.

    When I returned to OH from WA, I resumed going to SGG, and I did not tell anyone I was coming back, planning on coming to SGG, etc. - I just DID SO.  I was not "allowed" to do anything, as I had never been "forbidden".

    The truth is a wonderful thing.  Have a blessed Holy Week.
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    « Reply #6 on: April 06, 2009, 08:36:59 AM »
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    « Reply #7 on: April 06, 2009, 12:32:20 PM »
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    I think there is a curse on both sides of this controversy.


    You may be right.  I am going to take a lengthy retreat at a peaceful location, where I can also receive the counsel of a wise, true shepherd.  Have a blessed Holy Week and Easter-tide.
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    « Reply #8 on: April 06, 2009, 01:14:41 PM »
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        I think there is a curse on both sides of this controversy.  I don't think the Devil needs any help in slinging more arrows. You thought is was a joke to call me a crack smoker. Right after that,  the chairman of the board paid you a loving goodbye compliment.

         When you  finally manage to detoxify, how about answering that request about why a traditionalist will fail you when the chips are down.  Ditch the venom and come back to your occasional brilliant analysis.

    Peace

       


    Do you know Gladius more than on this message board? Are you Fr. Cekada or something? I'm confused.
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    « Reply #9 on: April 06, 2009, 01:21:59 PM »
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    Are you Fr. Cekada or something? I'm confused.


    If Calssiccom knows me, I know it not.  As for the matter under discussion, God has seen and heard this, and He will avenge in His Own time.

    Even if I push this matter no further, nor the more important issue of the common good (which is the sole reason I think exposing that he is a lying psychopath is important), no one can stop the process of revealing the evil deeds of those who lord it over the sheep in various circles, ecclesiastical or otherwise.  The psychopaths everywhere are very nervous, and getting sloppy - as evidenced by the public email Fr. Cekada sent.  Even if I pursue this no further, he will learn, if he does not already know, that it was one of the biggest mistakes of his life.  He, like many who have been shearing the sheep for a long time, are removing their own masks, if only people will pay attention.  God speed in JMJ
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    « Reply #10 on: April 06, 2009, 01:27:45 PM »
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    When you  finally manage to detoxify, how about answering that request about why a traditionalist will fail you when the chips are down.


    I know the matter of which you speak, but could you quote where I said a traditionalist - ANY/ALL trads, etc. - will "FAIL" you when the chips are down?

    I believe the meaning of my words in that thread is clear, and it is clearly not any kind of universal throwing of all trads under any worldly bus.  It is actually an observation based upon the truly mental atmosphere created by the present situation, the unreal bubble world created by trads in response thereto, etc.  We are meant to live IN the world, but not be OF the world.  Like it or not, MANY trads have misunderstood these words, intentionally or not.  I gladly excuse them all, as these times are unlike any men have seen, but this does not alter the strangeness of the "bubble world" mentality.  God speed in JMJ
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    « Reply #11 on: April 06, 2009, 01:58:31 PM »
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  • Classiccom,

    Forgetting MY role, etc. for the present, and this specific case at hand, I have a question:

    IF we presume, for the sake of argument, that the leader of a particular society is, in fact, a psychopath, and I know this fact better than most (or simply am in a position to expose the fact without undue fear), do I have a duty to speak the truth?  Am I bound, in conscience, to protect and preserve the common good (or at least try)?

    If I fail to do so, what might my culpability be?
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    « Reply #12 on: April 06, 2009, 02:06:50 PM »
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  • Sorry.  The same question holds even if the leader in question is not a psychopath, but is demonstrably harming the common good rather than promoting it (his raison d'etre as the leader).

    If a politician harms the common good by words or deeds, we do not hesitate, upon seeing such, to call a spade a spade.  Is this sound principle for action somehow suspended if the man wears a collar?  IF SO, HOW IS IT THAT THERE IS ANY "TRAD MOVEMENT" AT ALL????  Why are we all not just "making do" in the Novus Ordo??
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    « Reply #13 on: April 06, 2009, 03:19:58 PM »
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  • In asking these questions, I am not claiming to have all the answers thereto.  These days are SO heavy and filled with SO MUCH sadness, I cannot tell you my approach is certainly the best or most pleasing to God.  I know I see countless people harmed by those who should be their providers and protectors, and it makes me ill.  Would I rule better?  Probably not, which is why God has been merciful in not making me a ruler in any circle.  There is an illness that pervades all circles, and seems to afflict all who bear rule in these sad days (not that the ruled are all spotless).  Do we sit and take it ALL quietly, praying but never taking action?  Believe me, I agree that sackcloth and ashes are the order of the day, but where is a living Saint to call us to such, leading by example?  If he is around, I would gladly retire into the woods (maybe that is where I should go to find him).  I HATE the disorder of the world, and I see it better than most.  I do not hate the disorder in myself sufficiently to have made significant progress toward true holiness, but, and this is no real excuse, I have found no guide who can lead me there.  Men have corrupted everything, even the most lofty things of God.  Indeed, it is the corruption of the holy things that leads inexorably to the corruption of all else.  The present corruption has been progressing unabated for centuries, and I am just a man who cannot watch it all silently, although I know all the while I am full of my own filth that I must deal with.  Who will help me deal with it, when the spiritual guides are but blind men themselves?  Please have a wonderful Holy Week, and pray that God grants me a fruitful retreat, according to His adorable will.  God speed in JMJ
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    In the same letter, you then seriously proposed that I hire you to run our school. This showed me that you had by then lost touch with reality. That is why I had to dismiss you.


    I actually said a priest should be the head of the school.  I DID offer to fill the role of an assistant, if they desired, but made it CRYSTAL CLEAR that I was NOT ASKING for such a position, and that I was perfectly happy to remain a rank-and-file teacher.

    After I submitted the letter, Fr. reimbursed me $400 dollars that I had paid out of my own pocket to cover rent at a new apartment/house (my room was part of the deal), plus $100 as an Easter present (or for some such reason).  He also apologized to me for things too detailed to go into right now.  I had asked for $1200 (to cover rent for the last two months of school) in my letter.  He gave the $500 and an apology, saying he would do what he could to right the other matters asap, and I continued to teach.  I was only fired  - DAYS after submitting the letter - after I expressed my dissatisfaction with being "spoken to" through sermons on two occasions, and for pointing out that $400 (or $500, if you like) was not $1200.  I said I needed the other $800 as a sign of good faith.  I also did not want to move AGAIN, especially when school was out in two months, I was living right across the street from school, and I had been living up to this point in a friend's den area, paying a very small amount out of my very small paycheck.  My memory for such details is rather good.  What is amazing to me is that Father could have checked certain facts simply by rereading the letters he still possesses.
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