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Traditional Catholic Faith => General Discussion => Topic started by: MyrnaM on June 06, 2012, 01:11:06 PM
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For Greater Glory
http://www.forgreaterglory.com/
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This is but a hand full of movies I can recommend. I'm disappointedthat the film didn't name Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ as the driving force to the establishment of the anticlerical/church laws. The local theatre only ran the movie for one week. So if someones interested in watching the film at the theatre, they would have to do it quickly.
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It was awesome.
The general Enrique Gorostieta gave a few short speeches about freedom (being an atheist liberal that's expected), but it's pretty easy to ignore because there are plenty of martyrdoms throughout the movie, and it really drives home what the Cristero movement is truly about; the Catholic Faith. At the end, Gorostieta converts and makes his confession before going to his death.
And I though it was SO ironic that in the movie Gorostieta refuses an AGREEMENT offered by Calles, negotiated by Rome, which is of course a deadly compromise.
And contrary to what I expected, they made Fr.Vega look like an okay guy with some rough edges. They definitely didn't exploit the Train Burning incident. They actually made it look like it was an accident.
There was only one bad part though - where the women have to smuggle ammunition, they're shown in their bras and bloomers for a few seconds. So that's the only part a guy would have to look away.
In spite of that, I'd still encourage you to go see it.
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My apologies. This movie deals with the Cristeros, a large group of the catholic faithful in Mexico in 1926 to defend their right to attend the holy sacrifice of the alter in church when the anti-catholic Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ government closed the churches. Many were martyred for the faith. Their rallying cry was "Viva Christo Rey". Deo gratias.
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Everyone here in Spokane at Mount St. Michael are talking about this movie, encouraging each other to go see it, support it. It is rated "R" for the violence, but that is what martyrdom is.
I haven't seen it yet, but so many here have seen it, I agree we as Catholics should all support a good Catholic movie when one does come around.
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If it comes out of Jєωιѕн Hollywood, there is some trick involved. I know people always think that this time, "we" really have a film of our own, but there is always a trick.
I haven't seen it and won't see it, but it probably pushes religious liberty and American concepts. Also, most people who see it will be Novus Ordo-ites who are probably heretics. They will come out feeling righteous. If they are martyred, they will be like Protestant "martyrs," many of them.
See, the devil doesn't care if you say you are a Christian, so long as you really aren't. He isn't afraid of giving the Church a little publicity, once it's no longer a threat to him and people have remade it in their own image. In the same way, he released the Latin Mass in VII -- once he had wiped out the priesthood.
To me, it is depressing to see a film celebrating a Catholic revolution when there are about 20 people left alive who even know what real Catholicism is. To me this film is just part of the vast conspiracy of silence. It will make Novus Ordo-ites feel all safe and warm, being happy that the evil commies haven't taken THEIR church ( oh, but they have ). But that's just me.
As important as the Cristero revolution is, it is totally insignificant compared to what's happening now which is the spiritual blindness of billions; but about that, the media is silent.
Sorry if this is too dismal for people to stomach. I assure you, when the Great Monarch comes and the power of the devil is wiped out, I will be a lot happier. But I'm not happy with meaningless scraps that have no purpose except to make me pat myself on the back and feel righteous. I guess it's a glass half-full, glass half-empty thing.
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when there are about 20 people left alive who even know what real Catholicism is.
That's a bit ridiculous.
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I haven't seen it and won't see it, but it probably pushes religious liberty and American concepts.
It doesn't. It's an excellent film that expresses many traditional ideas. You should see it before pronouncing judgment on it.
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As important as the Cristero revolution is, it is totally insignificant compared to what's happening now which is the spiritual blindness of billions; but about that, the media is silent.
The holy martyrdom of the faithful is never insignificant.
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For once I agree with brainglitch.
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This is but a hand full of movies I can recommend. I'm disappointedthat the film didn't name Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ as the driving force to the establishment of the anticlerical/church laws.
I think most of the people who go see it will be trying to get over the fact that they never heard of the Cristiadad
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If it comes out of Jєωιѕн Hollywood, there is some trick involved. I know people always think that this time, "we" really have a film of our own, but there is always a trick.
I haven't seen it and won't see it, but it probably pushes religious liberty and American concepts. Also, most people who see it will be Novus Ordo-ites who are probably heretics. They will come out feeling righteous. If they are martyred, they will be like Protestant "martyrs," many of them.
See, the devil doesn't care if you say you are a Christian, so long as you really aren't. He isn't afraid of giving the Church a little publicity, once it's no longer a threat to him and people have remade it in their own image. In the same way, he released the Latin Mass in VII -- once he had wiped out the priesthood.
To me, it is depressing to see a film celebrating a Catholic revolution when there are about 20 people left alive who even know what real Catholicism is. To me this film is just part of the vast conspiracy of silence. It will make Novus Ordo-ites feel all safe and warm, being happy that the evil commies haven't taken THEIR church ( oh, but they have ). But that's just me.
As important as the Cristero revolution is, it is totally insignificant compared to what's happening now which is the spiritual blindness of billions; but about that, the media is silent.
Sorry if this is too dismal for people to stomach. I assure you, when the Great Monarch comes and the power of the devil is wiped out, I will be a lot happier. But I'm not happy with meaningless scraps that have no purpose except to make me pat myself on the back and feel righteous. I guess it's a glass half-full, glass half-empty thing.
Go watch the movie, and THEN you can come back here and BS.
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If it comes out of Jєωιѕн Hollywood, there is some trick involved. I know people always think that this time, "we" really have a film of our own, but there is always a trick.
I haven't seen it and won't see it, but it probably pushes religious liberty and American concepts. Also, most people who see it will be Novus Ordo-ites who are probably heretics. They will come out feeling righteous. If they are martyred, they will be like Protestant "martyrs," many of them.
See, the devil doesn't care if you say you are a Christian, so long as you really aren't. He isn't afraid of giving the Church a little publicity, once it's no longer a threat to him and people have remade it in their own image. In the same way, he released the Latin Mass in VII -- once he had wiped out the priesthood.
To me, it is depressing to see a film celebrating a Catholic revolution when there are about 20 people left alive who even know what real Catholicism is. To me this film is just part of the vast conspiracy of silence. It will make Novus Ordo-ites feel all safe and warm, being happy that the evil commies haven't taken THEIR church ( oh, but they have ). But that's just me.
As important as the Cristero revolution is, it is totally insignificant compared to what's happening now which is the spiritual blindness of billions; but about that, the media is silent.
Sorry if this is too dismal for people to stomach. I assure you, when the Great Monarch comes and the power of the devil is wiped out, I will be a lot happier. But I'm not happy with meaningless scraps that have no purpose except to make me pat myself on the back and feel righteous. I guess it's a glass half-full, glass half-empty thing.
Raoul76, I have not seen this movie, but I know a hardcore, deontological Sede who loves the movie. The appeal is not only to Bogus Ordites, in fact, I have only heard of traditional Catholics talk about it. Granted, I do not converse with Conciliarists much, nor do I frequent their sites often.
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Raoul76, this movie doesn't come out of Jєωιѕн Hollywood or any other part of Hollywood. I'd love to have you see this & THEN give us your opinion. I saw it yesterday & it's one good movie with great acting. You owe it to yourself to see it. I'd say it's more for trads than NO's as it's a real Catholic movie. Honest.
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I have several Trad friends who have seen it and they're all excited about
the fact that a really Catholic movie can be in the theaters. One couple said
that the theater they went to was entirely empty, except for them. It was
like having a private screening.
Sounds like a tragedy from a profits standpoint, but maybe the word gets out slowly?
Better promotional work could have helped?
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Here's one person's take on the film (not sure where the article originally came from):
June 11, 2012
For Greater Glory…For Christ the King
by Christopher Check
Imagine needing the grace of the confessional yet unable to find a priest. Imagine being unable to find a priest to baptize your baby or to witness your marriage. Imagine a country without confirmations or ordinations. Imagine longing to receive Our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament, but having no Mass at which to assist. Indeed, Mass is not simply unavailable, it is against the law.
If you can imagine this nightmare, then you will have some sense of the profound evil that gripped Mexico just a century ago. In 1910, Marxist and Masonic revolutionaries declared war on Mexico, seized control of the government, and, seven years later, drafted a socialist constitution packed with anticlerical laws the intent of which was to drive the Catholic Church from Mexican soil. Catholic priests lost their legal identity and were forbidden to express their political opinions, even in private. Church property was confiscated. Clerical attire in public was outlawed. Foreign clergy were deported.
Throughout Mexico’s 31 states, these laws were unevenly enforced until the introduction in 1926 of the “Calles Law.” Named for Mexico’s ruthlessly anti-Catholic president, Plutarco Calles, the law added teeth to the Mexican penal code and threatened government officials with severe fines and sentences should they fail to enforce the anticlerical articles of the 1917 Constitution. The persecution of the Church grew more intense and widespread. Churches were desecrated, nuns outraged, and priests unwilling to submit to state governments’ clerical-quota registers were hunted down and executed.
A nonviolent reaction by the faithful was led by Anacleto Gonzales Flores’ Union Popular and by Capistran Garza’s National League for the Defense of Religious Liberty. As petitions, boycotts, and street demonstrations went ignored, however, a military solution sprang forth in Mexico’s western central states: Zacatecas, Jalisco, Guanajuato, Durango, Michoacán, and Colima. Individual platoons of rancheros, sharecroppers, and land-owning peasants eventually united into a powerful Catholic army that went on to defeat federal forces in large campaigns on the plains of Jalisco and in guerilla operations in the mountains of Durango. The Catholics erected alternative local governments in the villages and regions they liberated. Steadily the Catholic soldiers—the Cristeros, as they came to be called—inspired by Pope Pius XI’s encyclical, Quas Primas, began to reconquer Mexico for Christ the King.
United under the command of General Enrique Gorostieta, who had earlier distinguished himself while fighting with Huerta against Zapata, the Cristeros were winning their war for the soul of Mexico until a complex negotiation involving the Holy See, the Mexican Episcopal Committee, the Mexican Government, and brokered by the United States Department of State, brought an inconclusive end to the war. The Cristeros, who were never invited to the bargaining table, were asked to put down their arms, and, in obedience to the Church, this they did. Promised amnesty, Cristero soldiers were instead hunted down and executed as late as the 1950s when Mexico’s persecution of the Church flared again.
Never heard this story?
Neither have most Mexicans.
Mexican schoolchildren, to the extent that they know the story of the Cristeros, know only the Marxist spin. Well into the 1970s, Catholic schools endured regular inspections to ensure use of government textbooks. In the public schools teachers took an oath to teach against the Catholic Church.
It wasn’t until the 1980s before the anticlerical articles were repealed. (Indeed, when Blessed John Paul II visited Mexico in his white cassock he was breaking the law!) Not until the late 1990s, with the beatifications and canonizations of the martyrs of the Mexican Revolution by John Paul II and, in 2005, by Benedict XVI, did a sympathetic public awareness of the Cristeros resurface.
Today, thanks to first-time director Dean Wright, the story of the Cristero War can be well known throughout Mexico and the United States. For Greater Glory, which opened on June 1, is a spectacular, big-budget production, shot in Mexico, starring Andy Garcia as General Enrique Gorostieta. Part sweeping John Ford, part gritty Sergio Leone, For Greater Glory delivers in two-and-a-half hours a sometimes breathtaking, sometimes tear-jerking, and in-the-main, an accurate account of what was nothing less than a crusade in defense of the Catholic Faith just south of our border.
Garcia as Gorostieta is convincing as a retired battlefield hero reduced at the beginning of the film to helming a Monterrey soap factory. His life is comfortable, but he clearly misses the whiff of another kind of powder. Reading at his desk a headline of Lindbergh’s transatlantic flight, he feels emasculated.
(The headline selection must be deliberate on director Wright’s part for it was Lucky Lindy’s father-in-law, J.P. Morgan banker Dwight Morrow, well played, with just a hint of the sinister, by Bruce Greenwood, who imposes the will of American empire on events.)
Like the actual Gorostieta, Garcia’s is a nonbeliever motivated by a high paycheck and the thrill of combat. He nonetheless develops a sympathy and respect for his Cristero soldiers and the Faith that inspires their actions. Wright’s film probably takes some historical license with a possible conversion story. Nonetheless the real Gorostieta, like the Garcia version, did hold that a nation without freedom of worship would suffer moral decay.
The film somewhat overplays this religious-freedom angle. Gorostieta’s wife, ably played by Eva Longoria, asks how he can fight for a cause in which he does not believe. He replies that he believes in religious freedom. Later he delivers to his troops the same kind of anachronistic speeches that mar Mel Gibson epics. “Freedom is our lives!” he declares, and at one point he proclaims that the Cristeros will not stop fighting until they have a democratically elected government. Well, the fact is that democracy was doubtless part of the problem in early twentieth-century Mexico. Indeed, as Rubén Blades, in one of the film’s stronger performances as Plutarco Calles, points out in a fictionalized meeting between the general and the president, the people of Mexico did vote him into office.
The religious freedom theme has served the marketers of the picture well given the growing number of Catholics reacting to the Obama Administration’s mandate that Catholic institutions offer contraceptive coverage for their employees. The difficulty with making too much of religious freedom when telling the story of La Cristiada—as the Cristero War came to be called—is that the Cristeros in the field, surely to the man, were not fighting for religious freedom. They were fighting for the political and social kingship of Jesus Christ.
Religious freedom can be a good, but it is not an absolute good, and the “absolute freedom” that Garcia defends as General Gorostieta (and in media interviews as well) is problematic outside the context of Christianity.
It was the Catholic Faith, the Seven Sacraments, the Mass, Christ the King, and Our Lady of Guadalupe, for which the Cristeros took up arms. Their battle cry was “¡Viva Cristo Rey!” or “Long live Christ the King,” not “Religious Freedom for all!” The martyrs in the Circus of Nero did not die for religious freedom, and neither did the Cristeros.
Fortunately, Dean Wright’s picture, its periodic dips into the politically didactic notwithstanding, makes clear the motives in the hearts of the Cristeros. Abundant use of sacramental’s (especially St. Benedict Crucifixes), faithfully staged liturgies, emphasis on the merits of Confession, and beautifully shot urban scenes revealing the glory of colonial, in other words, Spanish Catholic Mexico, underscore an atmosphere suffused with Catholic devotion. Male viewers will find themselves longing to mount up rifle in hand with the Cristero cavalry; ladies will be inspired by the accurate portrayal of the courageous young women of the Feminine Brigades of Saint Joan of Arc (regrettably not named in the film) who, at great personal risk, kept the Cristeros supplied with ammunition and provisions, tended their wounded, and couriered tactical and strategic intelligence.
The film’s treatment of the American involvement in the war is remarkably faithful to history, but for a miscasting of the rotund Bruce McGill as Calvin Coolidge. Bruce Greenwood’s Dwight Morrow is the man whose diplomatic skill at last brings an end to the fighting, but his and his president’s motives could not be clearer: internecine strife in Mexico is bad for American oil business.
America’s explicit support of the Mexican federal army against the Catholic soldiers is not sugarcoated in the film, and we learn that America supplied warplanes to the Calles administration. (In fact, though not mentioned in the film, American pilots flew air support against the Cristeros in at least one battle.)
Knights of Columbus will be proud to hear their organization named in the film as a source of pressure on the Coolidge administration to seek a resolution to the war. This they did. And it is heartening to see Supreme Knight Carl Anderson listed as an executive producer of a film that so unequivocally supports the armed uprising, given that the Knights’ involvement at the time of the war was somewhat different.
While it is true that American Knights raised one million dollars, these funds were deliberately not given to the Cristero army. Supreme Knight Flaherty, reported the New York Times of November 6, 1926, was publicly explicit that the money was to aid exiled Mexican priests and religious and to support a propaganda campaign on both sides of the border. He added that the Knights in America were definitely not helping to support an armed rebellion in Mexico. Of course, the position of the Knights was little different from that of most of the American Episcopacy who were unwilling to support an armed rebellion against a (Marxist) government that enjoyed full diplomatic recognition of the United States. “Iron Mike” Curley of Baltimore and Francis Kelly of Oklahoma were two notable exceptions.
Was the armed uprising moral? Dean Wright’s conclusion must be yes, so sympathetically does he portray the Cristeros. But observers then and now were and are less certain. Pope Pius XI was never clear. Rueben Quezada, who has written a fine summary of the conflict for Ignatius Press, recently stated in an interview with National Catholic Register Radio that he believes that the Cristeros’ action did not meet the criteria for just war.
I believe, however, that the revolt was justified because Plutarco Calles, by his tyranny, had lost his claim to rule. According to Bellarmine and Suarez, in such a case, sovereignty reverts to the people in whom it always dwells. (Cf. Right and Reason Austin Fagothey, chapter 30.)
It is true that the Cristeros—and Wright does not hide this—did cross the ius in bellum line. Vengeance inspired a brutal train robbery in which civilians were killed. Moreover, one of the film’s heroes is a bandoleer wearing, pistol-packing priest, Father Reyes Vega played by Santiago Cabrera. St. Thomas is explicit that priests should not bear arms, and the sympathetic portrayal of Vega, who in real life seems to have been a gunslinger in more ways than one, is morally problematic. Another partial whitewash is Oscar Isaac’s “El Catorce”, so called because he singlehandedly killed fourteen federal soldiers. The real El Catorce, Victoriano Ramirez, killed fourteen guards escaping from a jail where he was awaiting a murder trial.
Some closing thoughts. Eduardo Verástegui is underused in the role of Blessed Anacleto Gonzales Flores. Peter O’Toole as Father Christopher does well setting in motion the theme of redemption that leavens and anchors the film. Like the best things in Christianity, the redemption begins with a small act of charity, in this case, forgiveness.
Newcomer Mauricio Kuri as the boy martyr Jose Sanchez del Rio, starts off the picture perhaps too cute but develops well to the point that we believe his courage and devotion in the face of a diabolically brutal death.
Costuming and sets have been obviously and meticulously inspired by the abundant photographic record of the war. Indeed, one of the picture’s minor heroes is a martyred photographer. Stay seated for the final credits for a slideshow of some of these images. The score, alas, is heavy handed and emotional, no surprise from the pen of Titanic scorer James Horner.
Finally, the R-rating is wholly undeserved. I polled folks leaving the theater and not one thought it deserved an R-rating. It makes one wonder whose side the MPAA is on.
Well, not really.
I think we know, and it’s not the side of Christ the King. All the more reason to go see this picture, which is nothing less than a gem in the mire of Hollywood.
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Thank you so much, SS, for this article! If I could, I'd give you 5 thumbs up for it.
So much good additional information!!
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I saw the movie and I thought it wasn't bad. It was refreshing, to say the least. My only complaint is the with the atheist general; they overdid the whole, "smoke a cigar to look cool" ploy. They could have toned that down a bit. The scenes where they tear down the churches were quite sentimental, and I thought they were pretty well done.
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I'm really looking forward to seeing this film and "voting" with my purchase of a ticket! We live one hour away from the theater in which it is playing. I'm just hoping it will still be there by the time we can go see it.
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I saw the movie. I did not see it as "R" but PG. I read syllabus of errors, Vatican I compared to Vatican II before seeing the movie. When you have true catholics fighting what I see is a justice war, because of their reasoning, for Christ's Kingship, not revenge. Also, because they were true catholics, with the true sacraments of the Precious Blood of Christ, they were then able to have victories, and is not, souls saved. If the USA would have a battle like this one (communism/marxisim) we would be all thumbs. Why? Because the Vatican II church sees that all religions can be saved and can get along which is error, false ecuмenism. They have toleration and a true church can not tolerate false religions. You can not expect those who believe that 1 plus 1 equals 2 to get along with those who see it different. I was wondering about the compromise of the mexicans? I thought of false ecuмenism. When you have false ecuмenism, all religions become weakened. The Bells of the churches may have resounded once more, but the people had to mingle with those of other religions. Today, mexican catholics are getting into watch tower and other false religions, idols. For those who still believe that Jews and other religions do not have to convert and can be saved, then as St. Paul would say, " Then Christ came to us on this earth, died and arose in vain! Also, Telling his apostles to spread the true faith, and covert souls would be in vain too! So, watch the movie again after refreshing your dogma's and doctrines. I do think, in my opinion, that this movie was to be shown in accordance with the rallies of the so-called Religious Freedom to ask the federal government to not mandate contraceptives/abortions when in reality it is already happening through the so-called Catholic charities and CCHD and so on. If this is true and it is, how can a VATican II bishop/ clergy that supports these so-called charities be catholic?! This should shock many who have not come this far in their search for the truth of just what is going on? Your USCCB is marxist. They compromised at Vatican II and before Vat. II. So, when you watch this movie, what the mexicans had that looked so bad, we have worse, because we are at loss of true sacraments that save souls.
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I put this up on the other Greater Glory post. So thought I might as well repeat it here:
I believe many readers would like to know the facts of José’s story to have the “real picture” of the life of this valiant youth so they can compare them to the movie’s presentation. His history follows.
http://www.traditioninaction.org/movies/016mrCristeroMartyr.htm
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...by Christopher Check...
It was the Catholic Faith, the Seven Sacraments, the Mass, Christ the King, and Our Lady of Guadalupe, for which the Cristeros took up arms. Their battle cry was “¡Viva Cristo Rey!” or “Long live Christ the King,” not “Religious Freedom for all!” The martyrs in the Circus of Nero did not die for religious freedom, and neither did the Cristeros.
I just saw the movie a few hours ago. I'd like to say "thank you" to SS and to
Mr. Check, because this idea was in my mind while I watched the movie, and
I must say, that it helped me to be aware of what I was seeing.
The only place in the film where I got the idea that anyone was fighting for
"religious freedom" was in speeches given by Calles or Gorostieta. The rest
of the movie gives honest portrayal of the real conflict of good vs. evil, in
that Cristeros were fighting for their faith, in the name of Christ the King and
the Virgin of Guadalupe.
I do agree that it is unfortunate that the role of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ is not given any
coverage. If you know what that is already, you can see it latent in various
scenes, but it is not explained. There could be an entirely new production of
this subject, the Cristiada, with Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ front row, and center, and you
would have a whole new movie, but I don't think that it would really deliver
a fundamentally different impression of what was going on in the hearts and
minds of the faithful, such as the little boy, Jose. In his perspective, there
would likely be nothing important about Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ! What mattered to him
was his faith, and defending the memory of the fine, old priest, Father
Christopher (played superbly by Peter O'Toole) who was his role model.
The thing that would be so good to explain, it seems to me, is how Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ
instills a loyalty into its followers, and it is not a loyalty to anything good. But
in the minds of its followers, it is given the appearance of a good. This is the
big deception of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, and it can be seen most tellingly in the
performance of the man who intervenes to offer the young Jose Sanchez del
Rio (played by Mauricio Kuri) his freedom, if he would only "say the words,"
and deny Our Lord, and deny his faith, for "they are just words." But the boy's
reply is always, "Viva Cristo Rey!" And the man is always disappointed, time
after time! He was therefore hardened in his heart, an unrepentant,
pertinacious sinner, while the boy he tormented as he sank into his sin, was
truly a saint.
Such is the lying, demonic power of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ.
And it needs to be made prominently exposed to the light of day.
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I forgot to mention: if you are putting it off, you might be too late.
Theaters are shutting this movie down, due to low attendance.
There were 15 people in my theater, at 7 pm on Tuesday. (One of them
had a plastic bag of chips, which he persisted in using to make noise
during the entire showing. I could hear him crunching from 20 feet away.)
The theaters in my area say they have this movie next week, but they
don't know beyond that. Your local theater may be on its last week now.
Several theaters have stopped showing it already, due to low turnout.
This is a movie EVERY CATHOLIC should see, and if they did, it would
be a blockbuster. But you know the story: they won't hear about it
from the pulpit. Well, I did, and I can thank my traditional priest for
saying what he did. He said, "See it!"
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Yes, Neil Obstat, you're right that if you want to see this movie, you'd better go NOW, as unfortunately not many people are going. What a shame! To see a truly Catholic movie of this caliber in secular theaters is a miracle in itself. Catholics complain & groan on & on about Hollywood, yet when a good movie does come out, they don't go anyway, saying nothing good comes out of Hollywood and it must be bad in some way.
Come to think of it isn't that what was said of Christ ---can anything good come out of Nazareth? Also there's the parable of the Good Samaritan.
I think sometimes Catholics get what they deserve.
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Yes, Neil Obstat, you're right that if you want to see this movie, you'd better go NOW, as unfortunately not many people are going. What a shame! To see a truly Catholic movie of this caliber in secular theaters is a miracle in itself. Catholics complain & groan on & on about Hollywood, yet when a good movie does come out, they don't go anyway, saying nothing good comes out of Hollywood and it must be bad in some way.
Come to think of it isn't that what was said of Christ ---can anything good come out of Nazareth? Also there's the parable of the Good Samaritan.
I think sometimes Catholics get what they deserve.
Very true.
We should resolve to ask, whenever a Catholic in the next few years complains
that there are no good movies to see, ask them if they went to see this one.
Because if they did not, then they are complaining about themselves. This is our
chance to see a good movie, and we should go.
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Bump!
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Yes, the mother of all necro-bumps.
The film didn't do well commercially, and it can easily be had on DVD at Dollar Tree for $1.25 (at least where I live). I did buy a copy.
A good film well worth watching.
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It managed to be good (not great) in spite of itself. The main problem was that the writers compulsively wrote in plugs for religious liberty. However, they weren't hopelessly committed to this problem, as everyone who dies manages to die for Christ (rather than religious liberty). But there is a persistent inconsistent between what the characters say they're fighting for and what their actions prove they're fighting for.
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I saw the movie several years ago. My personal opinion, theatrically speaking, the movie was done very well. The martyrdoms were very heart-wrenching and inspiring. However, the issue I had was that the Cristeros were not fighting for the error of Religious Freedom. They were fighting for the preservation of the Catholic State, which was under attack by Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ who took over the government at the time.
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I saw the movie several years ago. My personal opinion, theatrically speaking, the movie was done very well. The martyrdoms were very heart-wrenching and inspiring. However, the issue I had was that the Cristeros were not fighting for the error of Religious Freedom. They were fighting for the preservation of the Catholic State, which was under attack by Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ who took over the government at the time.
Yeah. You are right. The fight of then is the fight of now.
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Dollar tree? Cool. A lot cheaper then Catholic stores.
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Never heard of the Cristeros, their revolt or plight until the movie. I've purchesed multiple copies for my kids, grandchildren, and the local SSPX library.
My only problem with the movie is the sound mixer...he should have been fired. The movie goes from inaudible to ear splitting multiple times.