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Has anyone seen this yet
« Reply #20 on: June 20, 2012, 03:54:45 AM »
I put this up on the other Greater Glory post. So thought I might as well repeat it here:

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I believe many readers would like to know the facts of José’s story to have the “real picture” of the life of this valiant youth so they can compare them to the movie’s presentation. His history follows.



http://www.traditioninaction.org/movies/016mrCristeroMartyr.htm

Has anyone seen this yet
« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2012, 07:19:27 AM »
Quote from: SpiritusSanctus
...by Christopher Check...

It was the Catholic Faith, the Seven Sacraments, the Mass, Christ the King, and Our Lady of Guadalupe, for which the Cristeros took up arms. Their battle cry was “¡Viva Cristo Rey!” or “Long live Christ the King,” not “Religious Freedom for all!” The martyrs in the Circus of Nero did not die for religious freedom, and neither did the Cristeros.


I just saw the movie a few hours ago. I'd like to say "thank you" to SS and to
Mr. Check, because this idea was in my mind while I watched the movie, and
I must say, that it helped me to be aware of what I was seeing.

The only place in the film where I got the idea that anyone was fighting for
"religious freedom" was in speeches given by Calles or Gorostieta. The rest
of the movie gives honest portrayal of the real conflict of good vs. evil, in
that Cristeros were fighting for their faith, in the name of Christ the King and
the Virgin of Guadalupe.

I do agree that it is unfortunate that the role of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ is not given any
coverage. If you know what that is already, you can see it latent in various
scenes, but it is not explained. There could be an entirely new production of
this subject, the Cristiada, with Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ front row, and center, and you
would have a whole new movie, but I don't think that it would really deliver
a fundamentally different impression of what was going on in the hearts and
minds of the faithful, such as the little boy, Jose. In his perspective, there
would likely be nothing important about Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ! What mattered to him
was his faith, and defending the memory of the fine, old priest, Father
Christopher (played superbly by Peter O'Toole) who was his role model.

The thing that would be so good to explain, it seems to me, is how Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ
instills a loyalty into its followers, and it is not a loyalty to anything good. But
in the minds of its followers, it is given the appearance of a good. This is the
big deception of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, and it can be seen most tellingly in the
performance of the man who intervenes to offer the young Jose Sanchez del
Rio (played by Mauricio Kuri) his freedom, if he would only "say the words,"
and deny Our Lord, and deny his faith, for "they are just words." But the boy's
reply is always, "Viva Cristo Rey!" And the man is always disappointed, time
after time! He was therefore hardened in his heart, an unrepentant,
pertinacious sinner, while the boy he tormented as he sank into his sin, was
truly a saint.

Such is the lying, demonic power of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ.
And it needs to be made prominently exposed to the light of day.



Has anyone seen this yet
« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2012, 07:42:27 AM »
I forgot to mention: if you are putting it off, you might be too late.

Theaters are shutting this movie down, due to low attendance.

There were 15 people in my theater, at 7 pm on Tuesday. (One of them
had a plastic bag of chips, which he persisted in using to make noise
during the entire showing. I could hear him crunching from 20 feet away.)

The theaters in my area say they have this movie next week, but they
don't know beyond that. Your local theater may be on its last week now.

Several theaters have stopped showing it already, due to low turnout.

This is a movie EVERY CATHOLIC should see, and if they did, it would
be a blockbuster. But you know the story: they won't hear about it
from the pulpit. Well, I did, and I can thank my traditional priest for
saying what he did. He said, "See it!"

Has anyone seen this yet
« Reply #23 on: June 20, 2012, 12:39:44 PM »
Yes, Neil Obstat, you're right that if you want to see this movie, you'd better go NOW, as unfortunately not many people are going.  What a shame!   To see a truly Catholic movie of this caliber in secular theaters is a miracle in itself.  Catholics complain & groan on & on about Hollywood, yet when a good movie does come out, they don't go anyway, saying nothing good comes out of Hollywood and it must be bad in some way.  
Come to think of it isn't that what was said of Christ ---can anything good come out of Nazareth?   Also there's the parable of the Good Samaritan.

I think sometimes Catholics get what they deserve.

Has anyone seen this yet
« Reply #24 on: June 20, 2012, 08:54:42 PM »
Quote from: Thorn
Yes, Neil Obstat, you're right that if you want to see this movie, you'd better go NOW, as unfortunately not many people are going.  What a shame!   To see a truly Catholic movie of this caliber in secular theaters is a miracle in itself.  Catholics complain & groan on & on about Hollywood, yet when a good movie does come out, they don't go anyway, saying nothing good comes out of Hollywood and it must be bad in some way.  
Come to think of it isn't that what was said of Christ ---can anything good come out of Nazareth?   Also there's the parable of the Good Samaritan.

I think sometimes Catholics get what they deserve.


Very true.

We should resolve to ask, whenever a Catholic in the next few years complains
that there are no good movies to see, ask them if they went to see this one.
Because if they did not, then they are complaining about themselves. This is our
chance to see a good movie, and we should go.