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Offline Sigismund

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Has anyone ever read The Crucible
« Reply #30 on: February 03, 2013, 09:25:38 PM »
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    Well, McCarthy gave peole plenty to attack.  It is a decent enough piece of drama.  

    I don't think the girls in the actual events on which the play is based were possessed, although it is certaily possible.  I think it is more likely that their behavior consisted of some mixture of hysteria and faking.


    Obviously you are either a liberal or closet Communist.

    I read that play just a few years ago back in high school. Back then I was not "aware" as I am now and thought it was "good literature." Nowadays I know it is absolute garbage, used to make McCarthyism (there were actual Soviet spies by the way so McCarthy was right) look evil.


    Fine.  Think what you like.
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir


    Offline Spork

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    « Reply #31 on: February 03, 2013, 10:36:47 PM »
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    No I wasn't asking you, but I'm curious.



    I was, Mr. Superneocon: Israel and Republican Party Über Alles: pro war, birth control, materialist, statist, religiously indifferent, Rush Limbaugh(whom I still enjoy as an entertainer), Sean Hannity, Michael Savage, and the rest of the Zionist shill apparatchiks that I can stand to listen to anymore. You know the type. Psuedo conservatives.  How about you, Tele?


    Offline JohnGrey

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    « Reply #32 on: February 03, 2013, 11:08:37 PM »
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    Might I ask, what were your political views before you converted to the Faith?


    Philosophically, I was basically apolitical.  I consider myself a reasonably intelligent person and by the time I was ten or so I'd met enough people to decide that, for the most part, human beings are narcissistic liars whose appetite for vice is only exceeded by their desire to hide or to rationalize that vice.  From that, I made the not-unfounded decision that since, all things being equal, a stranger would gladly steal from me, and politicians have the guns and color of authority to do so with impunity, most if not all of them are the closest thing to the Devil that walk on two legs.

    I suppose you could say that I was raised in a somewhat schizophrenic household.  My mother and father grew up in the sixties and seventies, and had a foot on both sides of the spectrum.  My father was best described as Thatcherite, economically libertarian and politically conservative to the point of sometimes flirting with quasi-fascist policy; my mother was much more legalistic in her political view.  Despite this, both of them were at least tangentially associated with the counterculture, and partook of the vice that was common then.

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    « Reply #33 on: February 03, 2013, 11:11:01 PM »
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    I was, Mr. Superneocon: Israel and Republican Party Über Alles: pro war, birth control, materialist, statist, religiously indifferent, Rush Limbaugh(whom I still enjoy as an entertainer), Sean Hannity, Michael Savage, and the rest of the Zionist shill apparatchiks that I can stand to listen to anymore. You know the type. Psuedo conservatives.  How about you, Tele?


    I've known more than my share of war-hawk neoconservatives, and I've yet to meet one that I haven't wanted to punch in the face for being besotted with their own political righteousness.  I don't generally hold with hitting women but if I ever met Ann Coulter, it would probably be in my interest, and the interest of the greater good, to give her rap in the jaw before she opened her stupid mouth, or might not be able to stop once I got started.

    Offline Thursday

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    « Reply #34 on: February 04, 2013, 08:57:08 AM »
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  • According to E Michaeal Jones, and backed up by other sources, America was quickly becoming a Catholic nation. He says that's why they destoyed the cities, to break up the Polish neighborhood and the Irish Neighborhood and the Italian neighborhood because they voted for who their priests told them to. If the papal Chair hadn't been usurped in 1958 the USA could very well be Catholic country, and I mean recognizing Christ publically as King. Of course, you had problems with the American clergy before 1958 but nothing like there is now. One of the popes said something like as long as we have freedom to exercise our ministry we will soon win over that country.

    BTW Father Coughlin still holds the record for the largest radio audience, he was way bigger than Rush Limbaugh or Alex Jones is now.


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    « Reply #35 on: February 04, 2013, 10:07:18 AM »
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    According to E Michaeal Jones, and backed up by other sources, America was quickly becoming a Catholic nation. He says that's why they destoyed the cities, to break up the Polish neighborhood and the Irish Neighborhood and the Italian neighborhood because they voted for who their priests told them to. If the papal Chair hadn't been usurped in 1958 the USA could very well be Catholic country, and I mean recognizing Christ publically as King. Of course, you had problems with the American clergy before 1958 but nothing like there is now. One of the popes said something like as long as we have freedom to exercise our ministry we will soon win over that country.

    BTW Father Coughlin still holds the record for the largest radio audience, he was way bigger than Rush Limbaugh or Alex Jones is now.


    Eh, I don't really buy this at all.  The Constitution is the supreme law of the United States, and as the Establishment clause prevents the institution of a State religion, and thus prevents an explicit enthronement of Christ the King as the center and source of civil order.  The only possible way around this would be to pass an amendment abolishing the Establishment clause, either through the two-thirds route or convening an Article V convention, both incredibly rare and difficult to achieve.

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    « Reply #36 on: February 04, 2013, 11:18:22 AM »
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  • John, I'd suggest you read the article ( probably on line)  before actually rejecting the thesis.  I saw it happen, myself.  What Jones described is consistent with my own observations over decades.

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    « Reply #37 on: February 04, 2013, 11:52:13 AM »
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    John, I'd suggest you read the article ( probably on line)  before actually rejecting the thesis.  I saw it happen, myself.  What Jones described is consistent with my own observations over decades.


    Link it and I'll be glad to read it.


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    « Reply #38 on: February 04, 2013, 01:34:34 PM »
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  • jones giving a speech on the subject

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