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Offline CatholicInAmerica

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Has anyone ever confronted +Fellay?
« on: October 09, 2019, 06:26:17 PM »
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  • Has anyone ever been in direct communication with +Fellay and talked to him about his mistakes and wrongdoings he is putting the sspx through? Am curious to see if anyone has actually confronted him and wold love to hear his response to it.


    Side note: anyone who has the ability to contact Fellay (in my opinion) should because he is leading souls (potentially) into hell because of the modernist agenda he is accepting: the NRO/NREC, saying Vatican II isn’t heresy etc etc.
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    Offline Maria Regina

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    Re: Has anyone ever confronted +Fellay?
    « Reply #1 on: October 09, 2019, 06:41:10 PM »
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  • A friend of mine who is quite outspoken did contact and confront Fellay.

    It did not end well. That person can no longer attend any SSPX mass anywhere, and has been forced to attend sedevacantist Traditional Latin Masses.

    Lord have mercy.


    Offline CatholicInAmerica

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    Re: Has anyone ever confronted +Fellay?
    « Reply #2 on: October 09, 2019, 06:46:27 PM »
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  • A friend of mine who is quite outspoken did contact and confront Fellay.

    It did not end well. That person can no longer attend any SSPX mass anywhere, and has been forced to attend sedevacantist Traditional Latin Masses.
    Wow. That’s ridiculous. If you remember, what did he talk to him about?
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    Offline Quo vadis Domine

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    Re: Has anyone ever confronted +Fellay?
    « Reply #3 on: October 09, 2019, 07:39:03 PM »
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  • A friend of mine who is quite outspoken did contact and confront Fellay.

    It did not end well. That person can no longer attend any SSPX mass anywhere, and has been forced to attend sedevacantist Traditional Latin Masses.
    Good for him on both counts.
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?

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    Re: Has anyone ever confronted +Fellay?
    « Reply #4 on: October 09, 2019, 07:52:30 PM »
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  • Has anyone ever been in direct communication with +Fellay and talked to him about his mistakes and wrongdoings he is putting the sspx through? Am curious to see if anyone has actually confronted him and wold love to hear his response to it.


    Side note: anyone who has the ability to contact Fellay (in my opinion) should because he is leading souls (potentially) into hell because of the modernist agenda he is accepting: the NRO/NREC, saying Vatican II isn’t heresy etc etc.

    I tried several years ago.

    I got as far as Fr. Pfluger, and had two email exchanges with him (which I still have).

    He assured me that everything was all internet rumors, and there was nothing to worry about!
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    Re: Has anyone ever confronted +Fellay?
    « Reply #5 on: October 09, 2019, 07:54:03 PM »
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  • I tried several years ago.

    I got as far as Fr. Pfluger, and had two email exchanges with him (which I still have).

    He assured me that everything was all internet rumors, and there was nothing to worry about!
    That aged terribly 
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    Offline Mark 79

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    Re: Has anyone ever confronted +Fellay?
    « Reply #6 on: October 09, 2019, 08:21:41 PM »
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  • A friend of mine who is quite outspoken did contact and confront Fellay.

    It did not end well. That person can no longer attend any SSPX mass anywhere, and has been forced to attend sedevacantist Traditional Latin Masses.
    Who could have foreseen that outcome?
    :laugh2:

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    Re: Has anyone ever confronted +Fellay?
    « Reply #7 on: October 09, 2019, 10:54:22 PM »
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  • Who could have foreseen that outcome?
    :laugh2:
    Honestly the way that post was written, it seems likely that the guy's friend was very combative and not merely "asked a question."

    Though  obviously I wasn't there.


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    Re: Has anyone ever confronted +Fellay?
    « Reply #8 on: October 10, 2019, 07:50:56 AM »
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  • It was approximately ten years ago when I confronted Bp. Fellay face to face one on one.  I expected to have only a relatively brief encounter with him so I decided to focus on one issue and one issue only.  I was attending the SSPX chapel Our Lady Immaculate in Oak Park, Illlilnois at the time.  His Excellency gave a long lecture starting at about 7 p.m. at the Art Center of Oak Park (http://www.artscenteroakpark.com/index.htm).  The talk was mostly about the state of the SSPX and its ongoing relations with Rome.

    The lecture had been much hyped up at our chapel and I was hoping to get there from the start.  Unfortunately (or rather in retrospect fortunately), I missed most of it.  I got in towards the end and afterwards followed the bishoop outside waiting for a chance to catch him when he was not chatting with  other people.  Finally, I approached him and asked him why the SSPX appeared to be backing away from discussions in the Angelus and elsewhere of things of a Jєωιѕн nature.  I used the Angelus as a point of reference to make my question more concrete by example.  I was polite, but firm.  I wanted a straight answer and tried to press until I got one.  I made it quite clear that I was not happy about this shying away from the Jєωιѕн Question.  After a few minutes or so I realized I was not going to get anywhere so rather than continue the exercise in futility I said my adios and left.

    I know that little account is not that interesting, but because of the topic, I thought I should state it for the record.  Since my one encounter with the bishop I have tried to avoid seeing him any more.

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    Re: Has anyone ever confronted +Fellay?
    « Reply #9 on: October 10, 2019, 09:14:08 AM »
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  • Honestly the way that post was written, it seems likely that the guy's friend was very combative and not merely "asked a question."

    Though  obviously I wasn't there.

    Still not enough to be banned from churches and effectively refused sacraments. The punishment does not fit the crime and follows a pattern of using the sacraments as political leverage.

    Offline Mark 79

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    Re: Has anyone ever confronted +Fellay?
    « Reply #10 on: October 10, 2019, 09:55:30 AM »
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  • It was approximately ten years ago when I confronted Bp. Fellay face to face one on one.  I expected to have only a relatively brief encounter with him so I decided to focus on one issue and one issue only.  I was attending the SSPX chapel Our Lady Immaculate in Oak Park, Illlilnois at the time.  His Excellency gave a long lecture starting at about 7 p.m. at the Art Center of Oak Park (http://www.artscenteroakpark.com/index.htm).  The talk was mostly about the state of the SSPX and its ongoing relations with Rome.

    The lecture had been much hyped up at our chapel and I was hoping to get there from the start.  Unfortunately (or rather in retrospect fortunately), I missed most of it.  I got in towards the end and afterwards followed the bishoop outside waiting for a chance to catch him when he was not chatting with  other people.  Finally, I approached him and asked him why the SSPX appeared to be backing away from discussions in the Angelus and elsewhere of things of a Jєωιѕн nature.  I used the Angelus as a point of reference to make my question more concrete by example.  I was polite, but firm.  I wanted a straight answer and tried to press until I got one.  I made it quite clear that I was not happy about this shying away from the Jєωιѕн Question.  After a few minutes or so I realized I was not going to get anywhere so rather than continue the exercise in futility I said my adios and left.

    I know that little account is not that interesting, but because of the topic, I thought I should state it for the record.  Since my one encounter with the bishop I have tried to avoid seeing him any more.



    I was not able to confront +Fellay, but was able to corner Fr. Rostand about the JQ. I complained that the SSPX had abandoned +Williamson for speaking truth about the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan. Fr. Rostand did not deny the truths spoken, but waved off my concerns with a one-liner, "It wasn't prudent." I responded, "We are called to preach truth 'in and out of season.' What could be more prudent than exposing the most useful lie of God's most organized earthly opposition?" He paused a moment as if to speak, but instead turned and drifted away. I did not bother to chase him.


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    Re: Has anyone ever confronted +Fellay?
    « Reply #11 on: October 10, 2019, 09:58:07 AM »
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  • Still not enough to be banned from churches and effectively refused sacraments. The punishment does not fit the crime and follows a pattern of using the sacraments as political leverage.
    Yeah I agree that seems over the top.  

    Offline Mark 79

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    « Reply #12 on: October 10, 2019, 09:59:41 AM »
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  • Yeah I agree that seems over the top.  
    …but, but, but… isn't the SSPX infallible? all knowing? all just?

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    Re: Has anyone ever confronted +Fellay?
    « Reply #13 on: October 10, 2019, 10:28:46 AM »
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  • Has anyone ever been in direct communication with +Fellay and talked to him about his mistakes and wrongdoings he is putting the sspx through? Am curious to see if anyone has actually confronted him and wold love to hear his response to it.


    Side note: anyone who has the ability to contact Fellay (in my opinion) should because he is leading souls (potentially) into hell because of the modernist agenda he is accepting: the NRO/NREC, saying Vatican II isn’t heresy etc etc.
    I wrote to him about the immodestly problem at our chapel. He usually responds if you write to him or has one of the Priests write on his behalf. I have noticed that the District Superior and higher responds to letters but those below the District Superior level do not write back.

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    Re: Has anyone ever confronted +Fellay?
    « Reply #14 on: October 10, 2019, 11:55:07 AM »
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  • I once wrote a very strong yet very well balanced email of protest to Bp. Fellay as well as to many other SSPX priests including as many SSPX superiors around the world as I could scour up email addresses for concerning the general abandonment by the SSPX of Bp. Williamson after his "h0Ɩ0cαųst" interview.  I invited their response.  Not a single one of them ever responded.  I believe I blind copied the email to some members on this forum.