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Offline graceseeker

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Re: hardly anyone should get married
« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2018, 12:57:10 PM »
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  • If I do recall lucifer thought he was all that compared to his fellow angels.  Anyone without patience and humility should not marry.  Blessed be God for he is good.
    all what?
    for crying out loud

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    Re: hardly anyone should get married
    « Reply #16 on: March 19, 2018, 01:07:39 PM »
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  •  What a novel idea it would be nice to hear some crying out loud in are churches


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    Re: hardly anyone should get married
    « Reply #17 on: March 19, 2018, 03:35:48 PM »
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  • Let's look at the bright side. How many people here on CathInfo have found good spouses and are raising good Catholic Children? A lot, probably. 

    If you think your vocation is marriage, then the two most efficacious things you can do, imo, are to hope and to pray. Sure, do the practical things that would give you the best likelihood of finding a good spouse, but resign yourself to God's will and trust Him to find you a good spouse or to remain single. 

    While virginity seems to be less common these days, there are still many who hold out for their spouses. When I got married I was 29, and my husband was 34. Both still virgins, and not because we never had opportunities or were horribly unattractive, but because we had some sense. Neither of us were raised Catholic, either. Both of us lived in a small town with absolutely no prospects within many miles. And here we are. I always figured that if God could create the world in 6 days, doubting that he could find me a suitable spouse was just silly. Doubting that it's possible to raise good Catholic children is just silly as well. We can. God tells us to, so there must be way. 

    There are still men and women of good will out there. Don't lose heart!

    Religion clean and undefiled before God and the Father, is this: to visit the fatherless and widows in their tribulation: and to keep one's self unspotted from this world.
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    Re: hardly anyone should get married
    « Reply #18 on: March 19, 2018, 03:53:35 PM »
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  • As Jen points out, grace is always there, we just have to cooperate.  Marriage is a vocation, just like anything else.  The family is under attack, so we need stronger families.  The problem is not marriage, but sin.  It's a janenistic idea to think that marriage is not pleasing to God or that one can't be holy in it.  He's the one who created it.

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    Re: hardly anyone should get married
    « Reply #19 on: March 19, 2018, 05:34:12 PM »
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  • ha ha... shows what u know
    I was attracted to this one person years ago who was very involved with the Church, had been for YEARS. That person was a psychopath, literally
    When you say "Church" what you mean is the Novus Ordo.  Matthew means that you should meet a Catholic woman in a Catholic Church, particularly one of the SSPX chapels or a Resistance Chapel.  I would add a Sedevacantist Chapel to that mix. 
    Once you start attending the Traditional Catholic Mass you will understand what we are telling you.


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    Re: hardly anyone should get married
    « Reply #20 on: March 19, 2018, 08:11:30 PM »
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  • That's an American thing, it was not like that for the Southern Europeans who came to America, like the Italians. Americans are like snakes, they lay their eggs and walk away, and let the children fend for  themselves basically. In my culture, the daughters would remain in the home till they were married to a man that was appropriate in the eyes of the parents, specially the father. The sons were taught a business, how to make a living by the father.

    In America they are both sent away from daycare to K-12, to College/work. They must fend for themselves.
    Yes, it IS an American thing.  As I said, no choice in the matter!

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    Re: hardly anyone should get married
    « Reply #21 on: March 19, 2018, 08:20:21 PM »
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  • Why?  It shouldn't be.
    Maybe not, but name a traditional order that wants a 60 year old in fair health, with no money, who will end up in the street if it doesn't work out?  Perhaps there is an order whose mission is running a care home?  I'd consider coming as a charity patient if it would secure me Last Rites, a Requiem Mass, and Catholic burial!  

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    Re: hardly anyone should get married
    « Reply #22 on: March 19, 2018, 08:33:43 PM »
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  • If I do recall lucifer thought he was all that compared to his fellow angels.  Anyone without patience and humility should not marry.  Blessed be God for he is good.
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    Any man who wants no part of raising children should not marry -- even if the prospective wife is past childbearing years.
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    Reason is, such a man is not interested in caring for someone else, but is only interested in caring for himself, if that much.

    I.e., he only wants to get married to have a woman to take care of HIM, like a waitress or a servant, whom he can TIP.
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    Re: hardly anyone should get married
    « Reply #23 on: March 19, 2018, 11:24:19 PM »
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  • hardly anyone should get married

    We can see by the divorce rate how true that is


    Absolutely correct when talking about America.  This land is a corpse that is still warm.  It is a wasteland.  The people here do not want to be saved.  You can lead a horse to water, but you can't force him to drink.  The people here are done.  We are ripe to be conquered and extinguished forever.  

    At this point, it takes two decades for men to learn what it is to be a man.  And even then, it is only a few who figure out what a good man is by the time they are in their mid to late thirties.  But from their teens until their early thirties, the fruited plain is just one big gay disco for them all.  And by the time they realize how saturated in ignorance and filth they are, they find themselves pierced full of holes and covered in tattoos.

    These people have no business raising children.  Those who try--for the sake of having a "child accessory"--end up raising feral youths who could give a damn about anything.  The previous generations have eaten all of the seed corn, spouting off a bullshit "live and let live" philosophy, all the while pushing their children off the farm and hiring foreign sharecroppers instead of handing down anything.  They retire and leave nothing for their children except a legacy of devastation.  In fact, these people ARE children, mentally and emotionally.  And so what business does a child have raising a child?  

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    Americans are like snakes, they lay their eggs and walk away, and let the children fend for  themselves basically.

    This above quote is great.  Collectively, I'd say, America needs to learn to wither away.  Collectively, it was a rebellious teenager from the start.  However, if I'm speaking to individuals...

    You'll find a few in the US, but they won't be American and probably not Catholic, either.  They will be the adult daughters of Asians, Arabs, Indians, Africans for whom culture dictates an unmarried daughter lives with her parents.  
     
        
    Yes.  You will find better, more suitable marriage material outside of this timebomb-Logans-Run-of-a-country.  Sure, there's folks who find others here in America.  But exceptions are not the rule.  Such cases, at this point, are outlier situations.  Not the mainstream.  

    There is no "American family" any longer.  It's been successfully destroyed.  Who do I blame?  Just this one tribe I keep hearing about:



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    Re: hardly anyone should get married
    « Reply #24 on: March 20, 2018, 06:57:44 AM »
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  • If a man and woman get married, they should NEVER involve the State by getting a marriage license. You sign your rights over to the State when getting a license. Men, especially, sign their rights over to the State and, effectively, their wives, whom are favored upon by the State in times of marital conflict.

    A true marriage is between the man, woman and God, anyway. Only God validates a marriage. The only material act that needs to take place is the marriage Sacrament presided by the priest. Damn the Antichrist State.

    Also, parents should never have a State birth certificate of their children. Once you do that, you are compromising your rights as parents, and the sovereignty of the child, to the State, especially Marxist, anti-family agencies such as Department of Social Services, et al.

    All you need to do is draft your own birth certificate and have witnesses sign it.
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    Re: hardly anyone should get married
    « Reply #25 on: March 20, 2018, 08:25:04 AM »
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  • If a man and woman get married, they should NEVER involve the State by getting a marriage license. You sign your rights over to the State when getting a license. Men, especially, sign their rights over to the State and, effectively, their wives, whom are favored upon by the State in times of marital conflict.

    A true marriage is between the man, woman and God, anyway. Only God validates a marriage. The only material act that needs to take place is the marriage Sacrament presided by the priest. Damn the Antichrist State.

    Also, parents should never have a State birth certificate of their children. Once you do that, you are compromising your rights as parents, and the sovereignty of the child, to the State, especially Marxist, anti-family agencies such as Department of Social Services, et al.

    All you need to do is draft your own birth certificate and have witnesses sign it.
    Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)


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    Re: hardly anyone should get married
    « Reply #26 on: March 20, 2018, 10:59:29 AM »
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  • As we like to say: "You need a black man to tell it like it is", 'cause no one else will.
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    Re: hardly anyone should get married
    « Reply #27 on: March 20, 2018, 11:08:16 AM »
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  • If you are a man of the world, you are nuts if you get married. There are millions of women for you to shack up with, and you can trade them in as soon as you find a better model.

    If you are a real Catholic, it is different, for Catholic marriage is for life, and is totally different in every respect than the world's concept of marriage.

    You can't mix the two worlds, for if you do, you will lose your soul or end up living the rest of your life celibate after your divorce.

    Two different worlds.

    I think the men posting here are mixing the two worlds up.
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    Re: hardly anyone should get married
    « Reply #28 on: March 20, 2018, 11:51:34 AM »
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  • If a man and woman get married, they should NEVER involve the State by getting a marriage license. You sign your rights over to the State when getting a license. Men, especially, sign their rights over to the State and, effectively, their wives, whom are favored upon by the State in times of marital conflict.

    A true marriage is between the man, woman and God, anyway. Only God validates a marriage. The only material act that needs to take place is the marriage Sacrament presided by the priest. Damn the Antichrist State.

    Also, parents should never have a State birth certificate of their children. Once you do that, you are compromising your rights as parents, and the sovereignty of the child, to the State, especially Marxist, anti-family agencies such as Department of Social Services, et al.

    All you need to do is draft your own birth certificate and have witnesses sign it.
    I had a feeling you were one of those useless sovereign citizen types.
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    « Reply #29 on: March 20, 2018, 12:24:29 PM »
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  • If you are a man of the world, you are nuts if you get married. There are millions of women for you to shack up with, and you can trade them in as soon as you find a better model.

    If you are a real Catholic, it is different, for Catholic marriage is for life, and is totally different in every respect than the world's concept of marriage.

    You can't mix the two worlds, for if you do, you will lose your soul or end up living the rest of your life celibate after your divorce.

    Two different worlds.

    I think the men posting here are mixing the two worlds up.

    If you think "trad Catholic" marriages are immune to the world, then you are naïve. There are plenty of "trad Catholic" marriages that end up in infidelity and "divorce".
    Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)

     

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