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Offline Kazimierz

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Happy Birthday Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson
« on: January 20, 2020, 10:14:34 PM »
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    • Born January 21st

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    Re: Happy Birthday Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson
    « Reply #1 on: January 20, 2020, 11:17:33 PM »
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    • That painting obviously depicts Jackson prior to May 1863 as he still has his left arm to hold on to the reins. 
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    Re: Happy Birthday Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson
    « Reply #2 on: January 21, 2020, 01:34:30 AM »
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    • May his soul and the souls of all the faithful departed rest in peace. Amen.
    :pray: :pray: :pray:
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    Re: Happy Birthday Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson
    « Reply #3 on: January 21, 2020, 07:20:49 AM »
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    • Here is the USS Stonewall Jackson:

    https://www.navysite.de/ssbn/ssbn634.htm
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    Re: Happy Birthday Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson
    « Reply #4 on: January 21, 2020, 08:44:19 AM »
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    • Sure beats the Harvey Milk.
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    Re: Happy Birthday Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson
    « Reply #5 on: January 21, 2020, 10:18:07 AM »
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    Re: Happy Birthday Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson
    « Reply #6 on: January 21, 2020, 05:19:37 PM »
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    • Was his wife Catholic? Did he have a deathbed conversion?
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    Re: Happy Birthday Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson
    « Reply #7 on: January 21, 2020, 05:35:23 PM »
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    • Quote from: Spork on January 21, 2020, 05:19:37 PM
    Was his wife Catholic? Did he have a deathbed conversion?

    As to any deathbed conversion, Magic 8-Ball says: Not very likely.

    First, he was a deacon in the Presbyterian church.

    Second, his first wife, Elinor, was the daughter of a Presbyterian theologian.  (She died in 1854 during childbirth)

    Third, his second wife, Mary Anna, was the daughter of a Presbyterian minister.

    Fourth, Jackson was known to have preferred Presbyterians for duty within his officer corps.

    See any pattern here?

    Also, a doctor and aids were next to him during his final days/hours, and there is no report of any deathbed conversion, so suffice it to say, he most likely died believing in the protestant Presbyterian faith.  
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    Re: Happy Birthday Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson
    « Reply #8 on: January 21, 2020, 05:54:52 PM »
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    • Stonewall had his chance to become Catholic. Alas he rejected the true Faith for Presbyhooliganism.

    Still a fine general though. 

    Saw the coat he wore when he got hit by friendly fire. He was short in stature which I found surprising.
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    Re: Happy Birthday Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson
    « Reply #9 on: January 21, 2020, 07:51:22 PM »
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    • Quote from: Kazimierz on January 20, 2020, 10:14:34 PM
    Born January 21st


    A most capable General. He gave the Union fits on several major battles and barley lost a fight. Unfortunately shot by his own troops by mistake which eventually lead to his untimely death which had a disastrous effect for the South for the rest of the war. His tactics were so effective, that military strategists study them till this day. Surely one of the best.
    I remember watching the movie "Gods and Generals" and how Stephen Lang's portrayal of Jackson was incredible.
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    Re: Happy Birthday Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson
    « Reply #10 on: January 21, 2020, 08:24:40 PM »
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    • Gods and Generals definitely one of my all time favourite movies. :@)

    I just fast forward/skip through the damnyankee bits now though when I re-watch. :laugh1:
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    Re: Happy Birthday Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson
    « Reply #11 on: January 21, 2020, 10:01:50 PM »
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    • Quote from: Kazimierz on January 21, 2020, 05:54:52 PM
    Stonewall had his chance to become Catholic. Alas he rejected the true Faith for Presbyhooliganism.

    I can't image such a soul is happy on their birthday. Something more akin to Ecclesiasticus 23:19.
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    Re: Happy Birthday Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson
    « Reply #12 on: January 21, 2020, 10:40:42 PM »
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    • Quote from: trad123 on January 21, 2020, 10:01:50 PM
    I can't image such a soul is happy on their birthday. Something more akin to Ecclesiasticus 23:19.
    That is shy I asked that we pray for the repose of his soul. 
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    Re: Happy Birthday Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson
    « Reply #13 on: January 22, 2020, 04:19:49 PM »
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    • Quote from: poche on January 21, 2020, 01:34:30 AM
    May his soul and the souls of all the faithful departed rest in peace. Amen.
    :pray: :pray: :pray:


    There is a story that Jackson, when in the Mexican War, took time to talk to a priest at one of the Catholic churches there, and inquire about the Faith.

    He could not reconcile himself to the idea of the Pope and the Papacy, so he chose not to convert or inquire further.  

    It is not the custom to use the above prayer for those who do not die as Catholics and are not among the "faithful departed," such as Jackson.  






          

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    Re: Happy Birthday Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson
    « Reply #14 on: January 22, 2020, 09:45:40 PM »
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