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Offline soulguard

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« on: October 30, 2013, 02:34:03 PM »
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  • I have fallen into habits of sin and at times, lukewarm faith. Only reading traditional Catholic material on the internet sustains me. I do not have the mass, but I do have confession. I say the full rosary daily, and want to get a scapular of benediction to make me live more gracefully.

    I blame this first on my own free will, because I succuмb all to often to worldly impulses. I go to college, and there I am imbued with worldly notions amongst the people I speak to. I try to convert them, and I am the only Trad Catholic in the place, but as if to try to understand them more, I take on their habits of sin and lukewarm faith.

    Though I have been told that the answer is prayer, I perhaps do not pray properly. I say the minimum of my rosary and there is no feeling in me when I say it. I think that I am better than others who don't have my faith. I have become vain and this causes me to sin.

    Not only do I ask you Orate pro Mei Fratres,
    but I require advice on how others have persevered in a state of grace.
    One solution I wonder about is giving up college and becoming a hermit, and force myself to pray all day.

    What must I do?


    Offline songbird

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    « Reply #1 on: October 30, 2013, 03:10:00 PM »
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  • We had a post here on St. Teresa of Avila and very good reading for what you are asking.  She is a doctor of the church and she teaches the science of the soul and the feelings that you state.


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    « Reply #2 on: October 30, 2013, 03:35:13 PM »
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  • FWLIW...

    The rosary habit is one to keep ahold of, and not to lose. It will always do you powerful good each day, and if you do not notice that good, and think you are doing very badly, without it you would be so much the worse off that you -would- notice that. But once you break a habit it is harder work to restore it, so do keep ahold of it.

    If you have no feeling in it, try to kindle feeling and heart in it. Pray to be able to love God purely and supernaturally. Do not be slothful in seeking the fire of charity.

    Short prayers, from the heart, throughout the day, keep the love of God alive. It helps if short prayers are verbal or at least sotto voce. When you find yourself going badly, turn to short prayers from the heart to bring God's grace and happiness back into your heart and will.

    And watch your daily habits, if you desire to love God with a spiritual love as one should, seeking too much material consolations will diminish or close off this fountain. Those who console themselves with the sensual, are sacrificing spiritual consolation in the future. Beware of too much time at anything. Find something virtuous to do, and pray and will before you do it, to do it for the sake of God, not for any other reason.

    Good things done well, for the sake of God, are a source of happiness. Whatever it may be, cleaning, anything.

    I think seeking out prayers and devotions with promises attached to them, and special divine favor, helps folks who do not yet know how to pray well at all, to make progress nevertheless.


    'Idleness begets a discontented life. It develops self-love, which is the cause of all our misery, and renders us unworthy to receive the favors of divine love.'

    St. Ignatius of Loyola

    'I call consolation every increase of faith, hope, and charity, all interior joy which summons and animates man to desire heavenly things, and to wish for his soul's salvation; in fine, all that which, brings to it repose and peace in its Lord and Maker.'

    St. Ignatius of Loyola
    Sincerely,

    Shin

    'Flores apparuerunt in terra nostra. . . Fulcite me floribus.' (The flowers appear on the earth. . . stay me up with flowers. Sg 2:12,5)'-

    Offline Neil Obstat

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    « Reply #3 on: October 30, 2013, 05:23:24 PM »
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    Those are good responses, above.  


    Quote from: soulguard
    I have fallen into habits of sin and at times, lukewarm faith. Only reading traditional Catholic material on the internet sustains me. I do not have the mass, but I do have confession. I say the full rosary daily, and want to get a scapular of benediction to make me live more gracefully.

    I blame this first on my own free will, because I succuмb all to often to worldly impulses. I go to college, and there I am imbued with worldly notions amongst the people I speak to. I try to convert them, and I am the only Trad Catholic in the place, but as if to try to understand them more, I take on their habits of sin and lukewarm faith.

    Though I have been told that the answer is prayer, I perhaps do not pray properly. I say the minimum of my rosary and there is no feeling in me when I say it. I think that I am better than others who don't have my faith. I have become vain and this causes me to sin.

    Not only do I ask you Orate pro Mei Fratres,
    but I require advice on how others have persevered in a state of grace.
    One solution I wonder about is giving up college and becoming a hermit, and force myself to pray all day.

    What must I do?



    Perseverance is the key!  You should ask God for the grace
    of perseverance when you pray.  And you should always
    ask for the grace of final perseverance, as this should be a
    lifelong petition that will one day be of great benefit for you.

    Ask for the grace to overcome these faults, and don't give up.
    Keep asking, and you shall receive.




    When you pray your Rosary with others, you have to work with
    what their habits are, and don't make them conform to your
    habits, for this alone is a work of penance that you can make
    efficacious for your prayers and for theirs.




    But when you pray your Rosary alone, you can use some tools
    that St. Louis Marie Grignion de Montfort recommended in his
    various books.

    Sometimes praying your Rosary in a variety of ways can help
    to get a grip on the prayer and not be distracted.

    There are various ways to use variety, and there are three
    that I can think of right away.  

    1)  For one of the Hail Marys in each decade, try slowing WAY
    DOWN, and say each word with total attention.  The fact that
    you are slowing down will draw in your thoughts.  Think only
    of the Hail Mary prayer, for the associated mystery will be a
    later development.  Stick to the Hail Mary and all that the
    words of that prayer signify.  Try to plumb the depths of these
    mysteries, in just this one prayer -- you can do this for an
    entire lifetime and never find the end to them.  So there is a
    lot to think about in this one prayer alone.  You can vary the
    one you choose to do this with, maybe the 4th in the decade
    or the second, or even the 10th, it makes no difference.  I
    used to think that the first or second would be necessary, but
    with experience I find it matters not if it is the 9th or 10th,
    because I am then thinking about which one it will be in
    advance and that also keeps my mind on the Rosary instead
    of wandering to mundane things.

    2)  You can add a key phrase after the Name Jesus in the
    middle of each Hail Mary, which phrase links to the
    respective mystery.  For example, you say, "Hail Mary, full
    of grace, the Lord is with thee.  Blessed art thou among
    women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus, Whose
    Incarnation is announced to thee.  Holy Mary, mother of
    God,..." etc. You can do that for each of the 10 Hail Marys in
    this decade or in any number of them, but don't worry about
    forgetting to do so in one or more.  It's okay!  You can use
    the same key phrase or a different one, so long as it is in
    regards to the mystery at hand.  Other examples would be,
    "in His Incarnation," or "Word made flesh and dwelt among
    us," or "God's fulfillment in time of His Word," or "Flesh of thy
    flesh, blood of thy blood," or, "God made Man in time and in
    eternity," or simply, "incarnated," and so on.  You will find
    there is practically no end to the number of such phrases
    that could apply, and they all fit to this one mystery alone,
    and to none of the other 14!  This is how to increase your
    devotion in your Rosary, and the fruits of this effort cannot
    be measured, for they are without limit.

    3)  You can add a phrase to the beginning of each Hail Mary,
    as well, or that is, instead.  There have been books published
    on this topic, my favorite being one from Liguori Press called
    "Let's Pray, Not Just Say the Rosary."  It was out of print for
    a few years in 1994-97 as I recall, and then it came back into
    print, but they had changed it all around and added a section
    for the dubious "luminous mysteries" of John Paul II.  If you
    would like me to look up the original I can do that for you.
    I would probably want to put it in the Library section, though,
    for it is a great reference.  There is a different sentence or
    two for each of the 10 Hail Marys in each decade.  Some of
    them are direct quotes from Scripture, but many are
    compilations of two or more passages, from different chapters
    or books of the Bible.  Many of them are pious thoughts of the
    saints or perhaps phrases the author found useful by
    experience -- we don't know, because he did not provide any
    footnotes or explanations for where these words came from.
    In fact, this modern booklet is a prime example of how the
    Traditions of Holy Mother Church grow over the ages, when
    certain prayers are found to become commonplace among
    the faithful and no one knows where they came from.  All in
    all the book is very beautiful, and one mystery in particular
    is curious for it parallels the Stations of the Cross:  the fourth
    Sorrowful mystery, the carrying of the Cross, has 10
    meditations that exactly are the same as the first 10 stations.  
    And note: some of these are not found in Scripture, such as
    the 6th station, Veronica wipes the Holy Face of Jesus.  I
    found it much more useful than the "Scriptural Rosary"
    scripts, because these do not try to force Scripture into
    pigeon-holes, but rather use Scripture the way Our Lady
    did when she prayed her Magnificat: there are places in
    the OT that sound incredibly similar, but she took all of
    Tradition and with the influence of the Holy Ghost, came
    up with an entirely new prayer that perfectly fits the
    occasion in which she was at the time, the Visitation.  
    Speaking of which, it is the second Joyful mystery, and these
    10 meditations take the praying person (you or me!) through
    all the parts of Blessed Mary's journey to help her cousin.
    It begins with recalling that the Angel Gabriel had revealed
    that Elizabeth was with child, and the Holy Virgin Mary
    decided to go visit her, taking a long and solitary road into
    the Judean hill country.  When she arrives, the sound of
    her voice calling Elizabeth is the moment of St. John the
    Baptist's sanctification - by which we are given to know
    something MORE regarding the power of Our Blessed
    Mother's voice, and the EFFICACIOUS nature of Her words.
    In two mysteries in a row:  "the word was made flesh" -
    we think that's the Word of God, and it is, but it was also
    the FIAT of Our Lady:  "Be it done unto me according to
    thy word!"
    And now, "Elizabeth!"  We can wonder how
    that one name sounded, for it echoes through time and shall
    forever resound in eternity, a sound more holy and more
    pure than that of all the angels and saints combined.  Then
    she helps her cousin, with the new baby, whose voice later
    would cry out in the wilderness, the one about whom Our
    Lord would say there is no man greater born of woman.
    She washes dishes, sweeps the floor, prepares the meals.
    And her time being complete, after 3 months (herself with
    child!), she returns home to face the long journey to
    Bethlehem with her husband, Joseph.  Pro-life groups have
    a lapel pin that shows the tiny feet of a baby after 10
    weeks, in shiny golden color.  These feet are the size that
    Our Lord's own feet were when Our Lady went to be with
    her cousin, St. Elizabeth.  


    The mysteries of the Rosary are an abyss of contemplation,
    and we should never be at a loss for having more to think
    about when we pray the Rosary.  


    You will go through "dry" periods, when there is no feeling
    in you, and you may get discouraged.  These periods of
    dryness are to be expected, but it will be by your not
    giving in to the temptation to stop praying because of the
    dryness, that you will eventually emerge victorious.  St.
    John of the Cross had a dryness that lasted over 20 years.
    He wrote about it calling it his "dark night of the soul." So
    you won't be the first one.  And you won't be the last.

    "But he that shall persevere unto the end, he shall be saved"
    (Matt. x. 22, cf. Mt. xxiv. 13).


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    « Reply #4 on: October 30, 2013, 08:41:32 PM »
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  •  :pray:You might try praying each decade for the intentions or souls of others.  For example, I pray for specific priests with each decade on Thursdays, for souls of departed loved ones on Fridays, for intentions of family members on Mondays, work colleagues on Tuesdays, etc.  Although it is hard to pray when deprived of "feeling," there is more merit earned by persevering through dryness.  I do not know which saint it was, possibly St. Catherine, who was said to have had no feelings in prayer at all for YEARS.  Becoming a hermit will make matters worse.  If college is the direct cause of mortal sin, I'd quit at once.  If it is mostly vexacious to your spirit, it means you DO have a heart for God, despite disgust with professors and fellow-students.  You say you can go to Confession.  Do speak with the priest about your disturbance of soul.  
     St. Francis Xavier threw a Crucifix into the sea, at once calming the waves.  Upon reaching the shore, the Crucifix was returned to him by a crab with a curious cross pattern on its shell.  


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    « Reply #5 on: October 30, 2013, 10:29:21 PM »
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  • You should also go to mass.