Author Topic: Traditional Chapels and Socializing (Read 4173 times)

Vladimir · « **Reply #30 on:** May 24, 2010, 09:00:29 PM »

I can't speak for other anti-social parishioners that the members here may have encountered, but as for myself, I'm just not that social by nature anyhow.

I've never actually been settled down at a parish. I live to far away from the one that I go to most often to really get to know anybody there. A lot of the kids there go to school together and the families know each other. The people in the choir seem to be tight knit and so do the older altar servers, so I don't really know where I'd fit in aside from the old people that are always inside the church praying.

I don't really feel comfortable when Mass is really crowded, like on Holy Days. I prefer to go to the weekday Low Masses where there are only a few of the real regulars (mainly old people that seem to go to every single Mass that is offered). Even on Sundays, I prefer Low Mass.

I never start any conversations, but if someone where to approach me and start one then I would talk.

Caminus · « **Reply #31 on:** May 24, 2010, 09:14:04 PM »

I find it extremely distasteful to engage in banal conversations immediately following the Holy Sacrifice and Communion. I don't enjoy banal conversation anyway but especially after Mass do I abhor it. Such behavior just smacks of irreverence and disdain. I am fairly certain it lessens the efficacy of the Sacrament. So while we are proud of ourselves for finding tradition, we ruin the graces we receive when we erupt in boisterous laughter after Mass or talk about any number of inane subjects.

I am also fairly certain that if our dispositions do not fundamentally change with respect to our religion, Our Lord Jesus Christ and all that the Faith comprises, we "traditional" Catholics will be purged as well.

If "socializing" is so important, we ought to make the effort to meet at some other time. I suspect that half the problem with the early Church as depicted in St. Paul's epistle was this turning the sacred mysteryies into a worldly social festival. Turning to creatures so readily after partaking in unspeakable mysteries is indicative of the great evil that man has suffered since the fall.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #32 on:** May 24, 2010, 09:25:12 PM »

Quote from: Caminus

I find it extremely distasteful to engage in banal conversations immediately following the Holy Sacrifice and Communion. I don't enjoy banal conversation anyway but especially after Mass do I abhor it. Such behavior just smacks of irreverence and disdain. I am fairly certain it lessens the efficacy of the Sacrament. So while we are proud of ourselves for finding tradition, we ruin the graces we receive when we erupt in boisterous laughter after Mass or talk about any number of inane subjects.

I am also fairly certain that if our dispositions do not fundamentally change with respect to our religion, Our Lord Jesus Christ and all that the Faith comprises, we "traditional" Catholics will be purged as well.

If "socializing" is so important, we ought to make the effort to meet at some other time. I suspect that half the problem with the early Church as depicted in St. Paul's epistle was this turning the sacred mysteryies into a worldly social festival. Turning to creatures so readily after partaking in unspeakable mysteries is indicative of the great evil that man has suffered since the fall.

Well, it seems its standard to have doughnuts and social gatherings after mass at society chapels. Are the doughnuts supposed to be eaten reverently?

There is a time for worship and a time for socialization. To suggest that it's evil for one to follow the other too quickly seems to be a subjective impression.

Vladimir · « **Reply #33 on:** May 24, 2010, 10:09:38 PM »

Quote from: Caminus

I find it extremely distasteful to engage in banal conversations immediately following the Holy Sacrifice and Communion. I don't enjoy banal conversation anyway but especially after Mass do I abhor it. Such behavior just smacks of irreverence and disdain. I am fairly certain it lessens the efficacy of the Sacrament. So while we are proud of ourselves for finding tradition, we ruin the graces we receive when we erupt in boisterous laughter after Mass or talk about any number of inane subjects.

I am also fairly certain that if our dispositions do not fundamentally change with respect to our religion, Our Lord Jesus Christ and all that the Faith comprises, we "traditional" Catholics will be purged as well.

If "socializing" is so important, we ought to make the effort to meet at some other time. I suspect that half the problem with the early Church as depicted in St. Paul's epistle was this turning the sacred mysteryies into a worldly social festival. Turning to creatures so readily after partaking in unspeakable mysteries is indicative of the great evil that man has suffered since the fall.

This is what I was trying to say.

I have an objection to donuts immediately after Mass as well. Jesus Christ is still fully present in your body after you swallow the Host so it seems extremely irreverent to consume any food immediately afterward. I always wait at least 15 minutes...

Caminus · « **Reply #34 on:** May 24, 2010, 10:13:27 PM »

I don't think we fully appreciate our true condition. If we did understand it we would be scarcely be able to be removed from the sanctuary after Mass. The banality of donuts and coffee after Mass is very fitting for our mentality. It is a condescension to our worldiness. If we were not able to satisfy our senses, we would think something is wrong. Just as a dress two inches below the knee is a condsecension to worldings in an attempt to stop a full out rebellion, so too is our inane gatherings after the Holy Sacrifice. Most Catholics live an almost purely natural life, sprinkled with prayers here and there with a Mass on Sunday. They never progress beyond the beginning stages of prayer because of such affections.

Catholic Samurai · « **Reply #35 on:** May 25, 2010, 11:24:55 PM »

Quote from: Matthew

So it appears that at least SOME of those anti-social, dive-out-the-window-after-Father-processes-out types are doing it for a defensive, even noble, reason.

Well one of the benefits of keeping to yourself is that you can laugh your ass off if any rumors about you reach your ears, because those calumniators dont even know who you are.

Catholic Samurai · « **Reply #36 on:** May 25, 2010, 11:56:12 PM »

As I stated in the other thread, I dont like listening to trifles like the weather, new clothes, what shopping a person did the day before etc. Im just a serious kind of person (when Im not under the influence of children). There is no reason why I should waste my time listening to people BS who are so darn busy yet have less of a life or brain than what I have. That and because I already have plenty of my own problems. I dont want anything to do with the #### other people get themselves into (most often caused by their mouths) because it's a waste of my time and energy.

There are only about 2-3 people out of 600 that I actually enjoy talking to after Mass over here, and it's a rare occasion I ever see them. I wish I could be more social, but I dont see how that's possible. Being a willful loner isnt good for my desired end.

MyrnaM · « **Reply #37 on:** May 26, 2010, 07:27:27 AM »

I guess I am in the middle, I like to socialize, if the oonversation is interesting, and with certain people.

I don't mind to listen to the others who speak shallow, but usually I have to dash off and care for my very elderly mom.

I work in the host factory, in the basement of our church for an hour every other week, not much I know, but that is all I can do at the moment. (my mom again) anyway I enjoy talking to the othet women, we usually discuss the news, our gardens and how they are growing, and other household hints.

CathMom37 · « **Reply #38 on:** May 26, 2010, 08:57:25 AM »

Jamie,
thanks for sharing the info on this Chapel. It does look the the school helps out with everyone communicating. You are blessed to have seen that.