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Offline Incredulous

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Re: Going into 2019, Will Cathinfo offer banned souls a "Week of Mercy" ?
« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2018, 09:41:04 PM »
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  • FrancisMercy  :fryingpan: or actual mercy? :P

                 More like the "Count of Monte" Christo mercy
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Going into 2019, Will Cathinfo offer banned souls a "Week of Mercy" ?
    « Reply #16 on: December 30, 2018, 09:44:24 PM »
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  • Incredulous, who would be your picks of past members or inactive members to come back? I offered my list some months ago.


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    Re: Going into 2019, Will Cathinfo offer banned souls a "Week of Mercy" ?
    « Reply #17 on: December 31, 2018, 12:26:53 AM »
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  • I miss Telesphorus.

    ETA: I know he's not banned anymore, or at least I don't think, since Matthew did a mass lifting of bans a while back.  And maybe it's good he's not online anymore, maybe that means he found a nice girl and has lots of exciting "real life" stuff to tend to.  But I still miss him.
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    I TOTALLY agree!    
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    Speaking of Tele, are you aware that he took his name from the Roman martyr, St. Telesphorus, Pope, who hails from the days when popes were really CATHOLIC?!?!
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    You have to kind of look for his information, because his feast day (Jan 5) falls every year during that time when we're still in the Christmas season liturgically and so your missal will have a bit different arrangement for daily feast days, which you might expect to find in the Sunday Mass entries, as Christmas usually falls on a weekday, not Sunday. For example, the very next day after Christmas is St. Stephen, the protomartyr (this year Wednesday), followed by St. John (this year Thursday, who is considered a martyr inasmuch as on May 6th his being boiled alive in oil is commemorated, a process which he endured the pains thereof, however nonetheless miraculously survived), followed by the Holy Innocents on the 28th, this year Friday, shared by others including St. Francis de Sales, bishop in France, and Doctor of the Church, followed by St. Thomas of Canterbury, whom the wicked English murdered, this year Saturday -- yesterday. And so on. The Church doesn't dwell for long on the Nativity of Our Lord and Savior. Today, if not by Sunday's Mass, the Roman Martyrology commemorates St. Felix I, p. m., St. Sabinus, St. Exuperantius and St. Marcellus [remember the St. Marcel Initiative??], St. Venustian, his wife and sons --- while their martyrdoms having occurred at different times, they are commemorated on the same day.
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    The Martyrology gets specific here: "Marcellus and Exuperantius were fist racked, then severely beaten with rods; afterwards being torn with iron hooks, and burned in the sides, they fulfilled their martyrdom. Not long after, Venustian was put to the sword with his wife and sons. St. Sabinus, after having his hands cut off, and being a long time confined in prison, was scourged to death."
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    [Note:  if prison life wasn't already bad enough, try to imagine being there in those days, with bleeding stumps as forearms, etc...]
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    The entry for St. Telesphorus is no less edifying, since we have already been informed regarding the general character of such tortures.
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    "The Vigil of the Epiphany of Our Lord ... At Rome, in the time of Anotninus Pius,
    St. Telesphorus, pope, who, after many sufferings for the confession of Christ, underwent a glorious martyrdom ..."
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    Perhaps if we ask Tele to "come on back, the water's fine," and that we'd like him to tell us about the specifics of his namesake's many sufferings, he would be enticed to do so. Eh? (...as they say in Canada, which is closer to where he lives, last we heard.............)
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    Furthermore, Jan 5 is shared with other martyrs whose feasts are of a lesser rank than Pope Telesphorus:
    St. Edward, King of England, whose feast was transferred to October 13th (the day Our Lady later chose for the Miracle of the Sun), known for illustrious CHASTITY and the gift of MIRACLES...
    Under Diocletian, in Egypt many holy martyrs were put to death in Thebais by various kinds of torments...
    St. Simeon, monk of Antioch, lived for many years standing on a pillar, wherefore he is called Stylites ...
    St. Emiliana, Roman virgin, was called to heaven by her sister Tharsilla, who had preceded her ...
    St. Syncletica of Alexandria, her noble deeds have been recorded by St Anthanasius [same as the "other creed" of the Church, attributed to him, while skeptics argue he didn't compose it!] ...
    St. Apollinaris, virgin in Egypt........................ [if "apollo" were really Catholic, he might have preferred "apollinaris" instead!!!!]
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    Re: Going into 2019, Will Cathinfo offer banned souls a "Week of Mercy" ?
    « Reply #18 on: December 31, 2018, 12:33:23 AM »
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    FrancisMercy  :fryingpan: or actual mercy? :P
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    I was reading fast and thought your post said "FreeMasonry."    :)    (Just in time for the Rose Parade, which is Freemasonic from stem to stern.)
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    Re: Going into 2019, Will Cathinfo offer banned souls a "Week of Mercy" ?
    « Reply #19 on: December 31, 2018, 01:30:40 AM »
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  • I miss Telesphorus.

    ETA: I know he's not banned anymore, or at least I don't think, since Matthew did a mass lifting of bans a while back.  And maybe it's good he's not online anymore, maybe that means he found a nice girl and has lots of exciting "real life" stuff to tend to.  But I still miss him.
    Yes, CI was buzzing when Tele was here! 
    It would be great to have Tele back.


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    Re: Going into 2019, Will Cathinfo offer banned souls a "Week of Mercy" ?
    « Reply #20 on: December 31, 2018, 10:33:31 AM »
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  • Incredulous, who would be your picks of past members or inactive members to come back? I offered my list some months ago.

    Rum,

    Thanks for the question!  Please send me your list through pm and I'll go through it.

    Off the top of my head, I liked the debate offered in posts by Wessex and Croix de Fer.

    They may have gotten excited and out-of-line occasionally, but nothing that couldn't be dealt with by good counsel.

    My general impression is that Cathinfo is suffering from lack of good writers and creative, instructive topics.

    For example, Croix's string on pre-nuptial contracts was thought provoking.  His logic was the reverse of what we Catholics normally think. But in the Catholic days of old, the bride did come with a dowry.  
    Common sense was linked to this practice, but today it's a revolutionary idea!

    And we know, more than ever, the judeo-freemasonic state wants to destroy the family and they have many mean "legal" means for doing so.

    To help revive Cathinfo's relevancy, it would seem Matthew should seek out the trad-intellectuals he banned and repatriate them onto the forum.  Just my 2-cents :cowboy:
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Going into 2019, Will Cathinfo offer banned souls a "Week of Mercy" ?
    « Reply #21 on: December 31, 2018, 12:15:50 PM »
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  • "To help revive Cathinfo's relevancy, it would seem Matthew should seek out the trad-intellectuals he banned and repatriate them onto the forum.  Just my 2-cents "

    I greatly suffer from nostaligia, but I preferred the Cathinfo of a few years ago to how it is now which is why I do not contribute as much as I used to. I miss a lot of the old members who have left or been banned. I sometimes think some of the best members are the ones who get banned because they push the limits of acceptable speech and bring about robust debate. A good example is Croix-de-Fer in his late quasi-MGTOW Pastor Dowell anti-feminism stage. I thought those posts and others like them were intriguing and wished he was not banned. The best debates are the ones in which dozens of people complain to Matthew about and try to get one of the debaters banned. (However I do not like the flat-earth debates or the seemingly dishonest pro-Novus Ordo ones). I liked Wessex and many others. I have a soft spot for the anti-NFP Feeneyites who used to periodically invade the forum with links to websites with names like "true-saints.com" talking about sexual sins and how the "missionary position" is the only acceptable way to engage in the marital embrace. As far as old members I wish would post again, I nominate Belloc, Raoul76 if he would engage and not simply apologize for all of his old posts, Caminus, Spouse of Jesus, and CM (who is no longer a Feeneyite). I also liked Joan Scholastica, and like everyone else I liked Telesphorus. And I liked gladius_veritatis. And sedetrad. And the poster whose avatar was Bishop Williamson with duct tape covering his mouth. And it may be blasphemous to admit it, but I liked ggreg, especially when he was debating Tele (I sided with Tele in those debates). And ServusSpiritusSancti who fell off the face of the earth. I wonder where he is and wish he would come out of hiding and post again and explain to us what happened to him and why he disappeared. I think the trad forums I frequent are all ill and possibly dying and becoming "irrelevant". I think the resistance split and the strife between the SSPX and Williamson / Zendejas and Pfeiffer is a tragedy that has harmed Cathinfo greatly, not that Cathinfo is that important, but because Matthew has clearly taken sides and has used his power to censor the debates instead of being impartial kind of like he was during controversies that do not concern him directly. And I find there is a growing split between sedevacantists trads and non-sedevacantist trads and they want less to do with each other (I do not like the strong anti-sedevacantism of the "resistance" or the opposite stance of NOW) I like sedes going out with non-sedes for coffee after Mass and talking about things instead of the wholesale declarations of "error", "schism," and "heresy".

    I know I am very different from when I started posting here. However I have no intention of going back through all six thousand of my old posts and apologizing for everything I said years ago that I disagree with now like Raoul76 did. But I do wish all of the old faces would come back. The forum has been around for twelve years and we remember some of the old faces who used to post here and I wish none of them had ever left and we would all be regular posters at the same time and would have interesting discussions.
    In a Station of the Metro
    The apparition of these faces in the crowd;
    Petals on a wet, black bough.

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    Re: Going into 2019, Will Cathinfo offer banned souls a "Week of Mercy" ?
    « Reply #22 on: December 31, 2018, 12:27:30 PM »
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  • I think Mr. McFarland should be allowed back. It would be good practice for the Resistance supporters to have a dedicated die-hard SSPX supporter to debate against.


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    Re: Going into 2019, Will Cathinfo offer banned souls a "Week of Mercy" ?
    « Reply #23 on: December 31, 2018, 12:28:38 PM »
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  • I can think of just one word for Matto's analysis... "Fantastico!"   

    Happy New Year to you Matto :cheers:
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Going into 2019, Will Cathinfo offer banned souls a "Week of Mercy" ?
    « Reply #24 on: December 31, 2018, 12:32:07 PM »
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  • I think Mr. McFarland should be allowed back. It would be good practice for the Resistance supporters to have a dedicated die-hard SSPX supporter to debate against.

    Hear, hear! Bringest back the old SSPX PR-man so we can beat upon him... regularly :fryingpan:
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Going into 2019, Will Cathinfo offer banned souls a "Week of Mercy" ?
    « Reply #25 on: December 31, 2018, 01:27:22 PM »
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  • I had no idea he was banned! Jus thought he wasn’t around anymore. I knew that guy! He and my mom were real life friends. and I thought he was great to learn from....


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    Re: Going into 2019, Will Cathinfo offer banned souls a "Week of Mercy" ?
    « Reply #26 on: December 31, 2018, 02:11:45 PM »
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  • I had no idea he was banned! Jus thought he wasn’t around anymore. I knew that guy! He and my mom were real life friends. and I thought he was great to learn from....

    Don't know for sure... only Matthew Augustus knows.

    My impression was Mr. McFarland imposed a self-ban on his Cathinfo posts because communicating with us directly, was beneath his dignity.

    The latest I've heard of him is when he uses Matthew as an intermediary to send messages concerning Cathinfo topics.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Going into 2019, Will Cathinfo offer banned souls a "Week of Mercy" ?
    « Reply #27 on: December 31, 2018, 02:17:40 PM »
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  • Don't know for sure... only Matthew Augustus knows.

    My impression was Mr. McFarland imposed a self-ban on his Cathinfo posts because communicating with us directly, was beneath his dignity.

    The latest I've heard of him is when he uses Matthew as an intermediary to send messages concerning Cathinfo topics.
    In thought I quoted properly but I was referring to gladius!

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    Re: Going into 2019, Will Cathinfo offer banned souls a "Week of Mercy" ?
    « Reply #28 on: December 31, 2018, 02:37:34 PM »
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    I can think of just one word for Matto's analysis... "Fantastico!"    

    Happy New Year to you Matto :cheers:
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    That would be the one where he said:
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    "And the poster whose avatar was Bishop Williamson with duct tape covering his mouth."
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    ------------ That would be Antifellayism. -------------
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    "To help revive Cathinfo's relevancy, it would seem Matthew should seek out the trad-intellectuals he banned and repatriate them onto the forum.  Just my 2-cents "

    I greatly suffer from nostaligia, but I preferred the Cathinfo of a few years ago to how it is now which is why I do not contribute as much as I used to. I miss a lot of the old members who have left or been banned. I sometimes think some of the best members are the ones who get banned because they push the limits of acceptable speech and bring about robust debate. A good example is Croix-de-Fer in his late quasi-MGTOW Pastor Dowell anti-feminism stage. I thought those posts and others like them were intriguing and wished he was not banned. The best debates are the ones in which dozens of people complain to Matthew about and try to get one of the debaters banned. (However I do not like the flat-earth debates or the seemingly dishonest pro-Novus Ordo ones). I liked Wessex and many others. I have a soft spot for the anti-NFP Feeneyites who used to periodically invade the forum with links to websites with names like "true-saints.com" talking about sexual sins and how the "missionary position" is the only acceptable way to engage in the marital embrace. As far as old members I wish would post again, I nominate Belloc, Raoul76 if he would engage and not simply apologize for all of his old posts, Caminus, Spouse of Jesus, and CM (who is no longer a Feeneyite). I also liked Joan Scholastica, and like everyone else I liked Telesphorus. And I liked gladius_veritatis. And sedetrad. And the poster whose avatar was Bishop Williamson with duct tape covering his mouth. And it may be blasphemous to admit it, but I liked ggreg, especially when he was debating Tele (I sided with Tele in those debates). And ServusSpiritusSancti who fell off the face of the earth. I wonder where he is and wish he would come out of hiding and post again and explain to us what happened to him and why he disappeared. I think the trad forums I frequent are all ill and possibly dying and becoming "irrelevant". I think the resistance split and the strife between the SSPX and Williamson / Zendejas and Pfeiffer is a tragedy that has harmed Cathinfo greatly, not that Cathinfo is that important, but because Matthew has clearly taken sides and has used his power to censor the debates instead of being impartial kind of like he was during controversies that do not concern him directly. And I find there is a growing split between sedevacantists trads and non-sedevacantist trads and they want less to do with each other (I do not like the strong anti-sedevacantism of the "resistance" or the opposite stance of NOW) I like sedes going out with non-sedes for coffee after Mass and talking about things instead of the wholesale declarations of "error", "schism," and "heresy".

    I know I am very different from when I started posting here. However I have no intention of going back through all six thousand of my old posts and apologizing for everything I said years ago that I disagree with now like Raoul76 did. But I do wish all of the old faces would come back. The forum has been around for twelve years and we remember some of the old faces who used to post here and I wish none of them had ever left and we would all be regular posters at the same time and would have interesting discussions.
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    I seem to recall reading on another forum that ServusSpiritusSancti passed away. But I could have him mixed up with someone else. 
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    I like sedes going out with non-sedes for coffee after Mass and talking about things 
    instead of the wholesale declarations of "error", "schism," and "heresy".
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    I had to read that sentence 3 times before realizing I do this myself, and find it's quite informative and enjoyable. 
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    Although, there seems to be a certain kind of person, usually it's a man, who just can't get off a topic, and becomes obsessed with it, like sedevacantism. I knew a man who, all he ever had to say was a complaint about how the priest did something not in accord with the rubrics.
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    Then I knew another who was so thoroughly invested in Paul VI and his successors being all anti-popes, that he couldn't carry on a civil conversation about ANYTHING else. Both of these men have disappeared as far as I know. Maybe they moved to Madagascar or Fiji.
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    Re: Going into 2019, Will Cathinfo offer banned souls a "Week of Mercy" ?
    « Reply #29 on: December 31, 2018, 02:48:39 PM »
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  • A good example is Croix-de-Fer in his late quasi-MGTOW Pastor Dowell anti-feminism stage. I thought those posts and others like them were intriguing and wished he was not banned.

    It wasn't about WHAT Croix was saying, but about how he said it.  He was an obvious misogynist and was constantly making derrogatory comments to and about women ... at one point referring to them as "cows".  He was an immature loose cannon.  Any good points he may have made in his posts was far outweighed by his obnoxious attitude.  He spent too much time on secular boards and had some badly-infected thinking.

     

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