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Giants were upon the Earth in those days (Genesis 6:4))
« on: July 26, 2019, 05:18:44 AM »
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  • [4] Now giants were upon the earth in those days. For after the sons of God went in to the daughters of men, and they brought forth children, these are the mighty men of old, men of renown.'

    [2] "The sons of God": The descendants of Seth and Enos are here called sons of God from their religion and piety: whereas the ungodly race of Cain, who by their carnal affections lay grovelling upon the earth, are called the children of men.

    Ever wonder about these giants? Bet you never read about them in the media. no, Genesis is now taken as man-invented myths. But some of us who take Genesis literally will enjoy the truth as it comes out, indeed as Scriptuire says truth will always come out.

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    In it we hear 'for some reason, someone does not want the issue of giants brought up.' Well we know the reason don't we.!


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    Re: Giants were upon the Earth in those days (Genesis 6:4))
    « Reply #1 on: July 26, 2019, 09:38:39 AM »
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  • Genesis tells us that there were monsters/giants in the time of Noah, before the flood.  These were the "mighty men" who fought against each other and who terrorized the world, especially those of God, because these giants were born through demonic means and were not of God.  After the flood, when Moses and the Jєωs were fleeing Egypt, they also run across these same beings:
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    There we saw certain monsters of the sons of Enac, of the giant kind: in comparison of whom, we seemed like locusts. (Numbers 13:33)
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    I don't doubt that the satanic modern scientists could either duplicate these efforts, or make new giants using DNA cloning from remains found.  As Christ said about His 2nd coming:
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    And as in the days of Noe, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.  (Matt 24:33)*
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    *I'm not saying that Christ was referring to the return of giants to the earth, but the times of Noe were very technologically advanced, just like ours, so it's possible. 


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    Re: Giants were upon the Earth in those days (Genesis 6:4))
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  • Genesis tells us that there were monsters/giants in the time of Noah, before the flood.  These were the "mighty men" who fought against each other and who terrorized the world, especially those of God, because these giants were born through demonic means and were not of God.  After the flood, when Moses and the Jєωs were fleeing Egypt, they also run across these same beings:
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    There we saw certain monsters of the sons of Enac, of the giant kind: in comparison of whom, we seemed like locusts. (Numbers 13:33)
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    I don't doubt that the satanic modern scientists could either duplicate these efforts, or make new giants using DNA cloning from remains found.  As Christ said about His 2nd coming:
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    And as in the days of Noe, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.  (Matt 24:33)*
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    *I'm not saying that Christ was referring to the return of giants to the earth, but the times of Noe were very technologically advanced, just like ours, so it's possible.
    What happened to the giants that were still around in Moses' time?

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    Re: Giants were upon the Earth in those days (Genesis 6:4))
    « Reply #3 on: July 26, 2019, 10:28:24 AM »
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  • God used them to chastise the joos, or led the joos to defeat them, depending on how the joos were acting at the time.  In the end, I think all of these races were killed. 

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    Re: Giants were upon the Earth in those days (Genesis 6:4))
    « Reply #4 on: July 26, 2019, 10:48:39 AM »
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  • From the Haydock Commentary 

    Ver. 1.  Daughters.  These had borne equal proportion with the males from the beginning; but here they are particularized, because they were the chief instruments in corrupting the descendants of Seth.  H. --- Even the sons of these libidinous people were so effeminate, as to deserve to be called women.  M.
    Ver. 2.  The sons of God.  The descendants of Seth and Enos are here called Sons of God, from their religion and piety: whereas the ungodly race of Cain, who by their carnal affections lay grovelling upon the earth, are called the children of men.  The unhappy consequence of the former marrying with the latter, ought to be a warning to Christians to be very circuмspect in their marriages; and not to suffer themselves to be determined in choice by their carnal passion, to the prejudice of virtue or religion.  Ch. --- See S. Chrys. hom. 22, &c.  Some copies of the Sept. having the angels of God, induced some of the ancients to suppose, that these spiritual beings (to whom, by another mistake, they attributed a sort of aerial bodies) had commerce with women, as the pagans derived their heroes from a mortal and a god.  But this notion, which is borrowed from the book of Henoch, is quite exploded.  C. --- The distinction of the true Church from the ѕуηαgσgυє of satan, here established, has been ever since retained, as heretics are still distinguished from Catholics.  W.  S. Aug.
    Ver. 3.  His days shall be, &c.  The meaning is, that man’s days, which before the flood were usually 900 years, should now be reduced to 120 years.  Or rather, that God would allow men this term of 120 years, for their repentance and conversion, before he would send the deluge.  Ch. --- He spoke therefore to Noe in his 480th year.  S. Aug. --- Those who suppose, that he foretold this event 20 years later, think with S. Jerom, that God retrenched 20 years from the time first assigned for penance.  The Spirit of the sovereign Judge was fired with contending; or, as others translate it, with remaining quiet as in a scabbard, and bearing with the repeated crimes of men.  He resolved to punish them severely in this world, that he might shew mercy to some of them hereafter.  S. Jer. 9. Heb.  C. --- If we suppose, that God here threatens to reduce the space of man’s life to 120 years, we must say, at least, that he did it by degrees; for many lived several hundred years, even after the deluge.  In the days of Moses, indeed, few exceeded that term.  But we think the other interpretation is more literal, and that God bore with mankind the full time which he promised.  W.

    Ver. 4.  Giants.  It is likely the generality of men before the flood were of a gigantic stature, in comparison with what men now are.  But these here spoken of, are called giants, as being not only tall in stature, but violent and savage in their dispositions, and mere monsters of cruelty and lust.  Ch. --- Yet we need not imagine, that they were such as the poets describe, tearing up mountains, and hurling them against heaven.  Being offspring of men, who had lived hitherto with great temperance, but now gave full scope to their passions, and the love of the fair daughters whom they chose, we need not wonder that they should be amazingly strong and violent.  Nephilim, rushing on, as Ag. translates.  That there have been giants of an unusual size, all historians testify.  Og, Goliah, &c. are mentioned in Scripture, and the sons of Enac are represented as much above the common size, as the Hebrews were greater than grasshoppers.  Num. xiii. 34.  If we should suppose they were four or five times our size, would that be more wonderful that they should live nine or ten times as long as we do?  See S. Aug. C. D. xv. 9. 23.  Calmet’s Dissert. &c.  Delrio affirms, that in 1572 he saw at Rouen, a native of Piedmont, above nine feet high.  H. --- Of old.  The corruption of morals had commenced many ages ago, and some of the sons of Seth had given way to their lusts; so that we are not to suppose, that these giants were all born within a hundred years of the flood, as some might suppose from their being mentioned here, after specifying the age of Noe.  C. v. 31.  H.
    Da pacem Domine in diebus nostris
    Qui non est alius
    Qui pugnet pro nobis
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    Re: Giants were upon the Earth in those days (Genesis 6:4))
    « Reply #5 on: July 26, 2019, 11:18:31 AM »
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  • Genesis tells us that there were monsters/giants in the time of Noah, before the flood.  These were the "mighty men" who fought against each other and who terrorized the world, especially those of God, because these giants were born through demonic means and were not of God.  After the flood, when Moses and the Jєωs were fleeing Egypt, they also run across these same beings:
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    There we saw certain monsters of the sons of Enac, of the giant kind: in comparison of whom, we seemed like locusts. (Numbers 13:33)
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    I don't doubt that the satanic modern scientists could either duplicate these efforts, or make new giants using DNA cloning from remains found.  As Christ said about His 2nd coming:
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    And as in the days of Noe, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.  (Matt 24:33)*
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    *I'm not saying that Christ was referring to the return of giants to the earth, but the times of Noe were very technologically advanced, just like ours, so it's possible.
    With advanced cloning and DNA manipulation, creating giants might be possible.
    This might be happening in private or secret governmental facilities.
    Think Monsanto.
    Lord have mercy.

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    Re: Giants were upon the Earth in those days (Genesis 6:4))
    « Reply #6 on: July 26, 2019, 12:12:52 PM »
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  •   After the flood, when Moses and the Jєωs were fleeing Egypt, they also run across these same beings:
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    How did these beings survive the flood????
    Was Noah's wife one of them?
    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]


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    Re: Giants were upon the Earth in those days (Genesis 6:4))
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    Re: Giants were upon the Earth in those days (Genesis 6:4))
    « Reply #8 on: July 26, 2019, 02:21:48 PM »
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  • The six fingers and six toes on each hand or foot is interesting.

    2 Samuel 21
    19And there was a third battle in Gob against the Philistines, in which Adeodatus the son of the Forrest an embroiderer of Bethlehem slew Goliath the Gethite, the shaft of whose spear was like a weaver's beam. 20A fourth battle was in Geth: where there was a man of great stature, that had six fingers on each hand, and six toes on each foot, four and twenty in all, and he was of the race of Arapha.
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    Re: Giants were upon the Earth in those days (Genesis 6:4))
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  • I found this:

    Stretch your mind back to childhood. What giants do you remember? Jack and the Beanstalk? Hercules? Paul Bunyan? Goliath? What were you told and what did you read? With the exception of Goliath and an occasional ornery cyclops, legends emphasized their innate goodness, eye-popping feats accomplished with unparalleled strength, victories over the bad guys and all performed by "gentle giants". What if it were all a lie? What if the truth were something much MUCH more sinister?
    I have invested over 30 years researching the vast history of giants. It has, for the most part, been kept from the public. Proof of giants' existence - their skeletal remains - has been quickly secreted away in obscure museums, when not destroyed. Additionally, time has cloaked and sugar-coated these creatures' true perverse nature, the majority too vile, too demonic for bedtime stories. However, history is replete with their tales of unimaginable cruelty, sɛҳuąƖ perversity, cannibalism and pagan rituals. This is only the beginning. Some things are best forgotten. . . or are they?
    Where did these giants come from and what was their connection with ordinary humans? Just who were they? What happened to these extraordinary creatures? Is it possible they could ever return? The last question I will answer right now - YES, they most definitely could return! And they have something much worse in mind for mankind.
    • Present day modern man which averages about 6-feet tall + or - several inches or more.
    • 15-foot human skeleton found in southeast Turkey in late 1950's in the Euphrates valley during road construction. Many tombs containing giants were uncovered here. This pertains to the picture of the giant human femur and myself above.
    • Maximinus Thrax Ceaser of Rome 235-238 A.D. This was an 8' 6" skeleton.
    • Goliath was about 9 feet + or - a few inches. I Samuel 17:4 late 11th century.
    • King Og spoken of in Deuteronomy 3:11 whose iron bedstead was approximately 14-feet by 6-feet wide. King Og was at least 12-feet tall, yet some claim up to 18.
    • A 19'6" human skeleton found in 1577 A.D. under an overturned oak tree in the Canton of Lucerne.
    • 23-foot tall skeleton found in 1456 A.D. beside a river in Valence, France.
    • A 25' 6 " skeleton found in 1613 A.D. near the castle of Chaumont in France. This was claimed to be a nearly complete find.
    • Almost beyond comprehension or believability was the find of the two separate 36-foot human remains uncovered by Carthaginians somewhere between 200-600 B.C.
     http://www.genesis6giants.com/
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    Re: Giants were upon the Earth in those days (Genesis 6:4))
    « Reply #10 on: July 26, 2019, 03:37:32 PM »
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  • Quote
    How did these beings survive the flood?
    Was Noah's wife one of them?
    We had a thread on this a while back, but I'll summarize what the Church Fathers have said + theories on how this applies to our day.  The Church Fathers are not unanimous on what Scripture means when it says "giants".  The book of Enoch (which the Jєωs considered as Canon for centuries, even in Christ's day, since Christ refers to this book a few times) explains what the giants were - namely, that demonic spirits had children with earthly women using witchcraft.  Many Church Fathers believed this to be true and wrote about it extensively.
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    If this is true, then this explains how we get the "spirits which roam the earth" because they are the souls of the giants, who after they died, lost their human bodies but their spirits remained, until the end of the world, where they will go to hell.  These spirits are not to be confused with the evil angels, since they are pure beings, while the giants were part human/part angel.  I'm not an expert but it seems to me that there is a difference between the bad angels whom St Michael drove to hell who rebelled against God (whom we call devils) and those fallen angels in Genesis whom we refer to as "evil spirits" who still roam earth and try to corrupt humanity.  The difference makes sense to me.  It explains how and why there are some "evil spirits" on earth and some "devils in hell". 
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    However, around the time of St Augustine, early 400s, when the Church was choosing what books to include in the Scripture, She chose not to include the book of Enoch because at some point between Christ's time and 400 years later, this book had been lost (probably after the romans destroyed the Temple in 70AD, but i'm just guessing).  When it was "re-discovered" there was much debate over its integrity as many thought parts had been re-written.  So it was not made part of the canon of Scripture.  But, this book is still "esteemed".
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    At this time of the codifying of Scripture, there was also a change in the understanding/teaching of what certain passages meant.  As I understand it, and as you can read in the Haydock commentary, the term "sons of god" was changed from meaning "angels" (as many, many Church Fathers understood it) to mean the "sons of Shem" (i.e. men who followed God's laws and the true Jєωιѕн religion).  So this term went from being explained as actual angels to meaning holy men.  Thus, the giants were formerly explained as being the offspring of fallen angels and female witches, (which there is a lot of evidence to support this view) and they now were explained as simply being the offspring of former-virtuous men who married female pagans and their offspring were atheist pagans who hated God and the Jєωιѕн law.
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    As one commentator put it, at the time of the 400s when the Church was putting together the Bible, it seems that many at that time in the world did not believe in the former fairy-tales of Scripture, or of the ancient folktales of the former great civilizations.  So the idea of angels and giants and such things were scoffed at and were not part of the mindset of this time (much like ours).  So it seems the Church may have sanitized this part of Scripture (being that it's not a doctrinal or theological fact anyway).
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    My view is this, based on 1) Anne Catherine Emmerich's commentary, 2) many Church Fathers, 3) and some current day Protestant bible researchers who are re-reading these passages in light of our present day technology and growing paganism and Satanism  (issues which the Church did not have a need to face in the 400s or even the last 2,000 years).
    1.  It is interesting to note that the giants came into being right at the beginning of the world, in Genesis, after the Redeemer is promised to Adam and Eve.
    2.  The devil knew that the redeemer would be born of a woman and he would be both God and man.
    3.  Therefore, if we take the early Church Father's (and Old Testament Jєω's) understanding of Genesis to mean that ACTUAL fallen angels had children with earthly women, which resulted in giants being born, this makes sense because...

    4.  (Theory) The devil was trying to corrupt human nature by polluting human genetics with the spiritual poison of Satanism.  Because if satan could corrupt human nature, and rid the world of all those who were 100% human, then the Redeemer could not be born.  Because how could God be 100% man if all men were part (even 1%) fallen angel?
    5.  Ok, ok, this is a crazy theory, right?  Well, let's look at what Genesis says right before God sent the flood to destroy mankind.
    6.  "Noe was a just and perfect man in his generations, he walked with God." (Gen 6:9)

    7.  Ok, so we know that "just" means that Noe was a holy man, but what does "perfect in his generations" mean, if not related to his perfect, human genes (meaning he was not corrupted genetically speaking)?
    8.  Verse 11, Scripture says that "the earth was corrupted and filled with iniquity" (Gen 6:11).
    9.  Now, we might read "corrupted" to be a synonym for sin, yet then Scripture uses the term "iniquity" which obviously refers to sin.  So then, the word "corruption" does not refer spiritual vice but to the material aspect of humanity.

    10.  Next verse says that God saw all the corruption and "for all flesh had corrupted its way upon the earth" and that "the earth is filled with iniquity through them".
    11.  (Theory) God said that "all flesh had corrupted its way"...if corruption refers to spiritual sin, how does this make sense, being that animals and plants and all of nature cannot sin, since they have no soul.
    12.  Secondly, God said that the earth's iniquity came THROUGH the corruption of the animals/humans of the earth.  Obviously, this "corruption" was not sin because how can sin fill the world with sin?  It makes no sense.  This "corruption" must refer to a corruption of nature, or of genetics - both related to animals and humans.
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    Conclusion:  God allowed the fallen angels to come to earth and to "marry" the daughters of Eve, which led to a corruption of most of humanity and eventually of all living things.  The book of Enoch explains how the fallen angels taught mankind about science, magic, sorcery, metallurgy, and chemistry.  The fallen angels taught men how to make weapons, potions, herbal tinctures, machines, etc, etc.  With the length of time that men lived back then (hundreds of years), it is not out of the question to imagine that their civilization was vastly technologically superior to ours and such legends as Atlantis, (which was said to be destroyed by a large flood) show that there is historical evidence for a great tech age in the far past.
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    I believe that mankind and animal kind (i.e. all flesh had corrupted it's way) were satanically genetically modified so as to corrupt the world in an attempt by satan to prevent the Redeemer.  Such corruption by the fallen angels led to iniquity of the highest order, led to wars of unimaginable horror, and to a worship of the earth/science and the giants as being "god men".  Is our day, which is filled with all manner of evils, anything new?  As Scripture says, "there is nothing new under the sun."  If we see the possibility of such genetic monstrosities and we see the corruption of the morals through paganism and Satanism, can it not be that such has happened before, to a greater extent?
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    Noe was just (i.e. holy) and his generations were perfect (i.e. 100% human).  So his sons were also 100% human.  Were the daughters that his sons married 100% pure?  Scripture does not say they were; we must assume not.  After the Flood, Noe's 3 sons were not all faithful to God and His Commandments.  Shem was the most faithful and his followers became the Chosen People (Shem = shemites, or semites).  Ham's son, Canaan, was the one cursed by Noe and his race turned against God.  Japeth's race did not follow all of God's laws but they were not as evil as Canaan's race.
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    So how did giants re-appear on the earth, post flood?  Logically, they came from Ham's wife whose genes were passed onto Canaan, who in his fall from grace turned to Satanism and was able to (try again) to corrupt the world, both genetically and morally.  Looking at the names of peoples who were descendants of Ham/Canaan, you can see many of the peoples who terrorized the Isrealites (i.e. Shem's bloodline):  Canaanites, Hitites, Amorites, Phillistines, and the king Nimrod.
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    Interestingly, but not surprisingly, Nimrod was the king who tried to build the one-world religion and government and the Tower of Babel in mockery of God, in Babylon.  Nimrod was a descendent of Ham and the evil Canaan and worshipped the devil.
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    This is why you see in the Old Testament that God commanded the Isrealites to conquer all those pagan civilizations and to kill all living human beings, animals, everything.  Because such civilizations were satanic and corrupt to the highest degree.  For example, when God told Joshua to conquer Jericho by marching around the city for 7 times with the Ark of the Covenant, He told the Israelites to destroy the city and everything in it, even the animals:
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    (Joshua 6:17)  And let this city be an anathema, and all things that are in it, to the Lord. Let only Rahab the harlot live, with all that are with her in the house: for she hid the messengers whom we sent.
    18 But beware ye lest you touch ought of those things that are forbidden, and you be guilty of transgression, and all the camp of Israel be under sin, and be troubled.
    19 But whatsoever gold or silver there shall be, or vessels of brass and iron, let it be consecrated to the Lord, laid up in his treasures.
    20 So all the people making a shout, and the trumpets sounding, when the voice and the sound thundered in the ears of the multitude, the walls forthwith fell down: and every man went up by the place that was over against him: and they took the city,
    21 And killed all that were in it, man and woman, young and old. The oxen also and the sheep, and the asses, they slew with the edge of the sword.
    22 But Josue said to the two men that had been sent for spies: Go into the harlot's house, and bring her out, and all things that are hers, as you assured her by oath.
    23 And the young men went in and brought out Rahab, and her parents, her brethren also and all her goods and her kindred, and made them to stay without the camp.
    24 But they burned the city, and all things that were therein; except the gold and silver, and vessels of brass and iron, which they consecrated into the treasury of the Lord.
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    Why did God want this city burned to the ground, and all that was in it?  Because Jericho was the first Canaanite city that the Israelites attacked upon entering the land of Canaan.  And why did God want the land of Canaan to be destroyed?  Because it was satanic, and anti-god; filled with corruption of the flesh and of sin, just like in the days before the Flood.
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    Thus we can see that, in order to prepare the way for the birth of the Redeemer, God had the Israelites play the part of destroying most of the remnants of the the pre-Flood Satanism on earth.  However, whenever the Isrealites fell into the worship of false gods, then God had these pagan people conquer them, as he did when the Egyptians turned them into slaves.  The story of David vs Goliath is another tale of a holy boy, David, defeating the massive, pagan/satanic Goliath, who was a Philistine and a descendent of Ham.  So we see the age old battle of good vs evil, God's forces vs satan's forces, Catholics vs non-catholics.
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    Who is to say that in our day, with the rise of technology, the rise of paganism, the rise of hatred of god, that we do not see the return of some of the pre-flood corruption, in both genetically altered beings:  half human/half animal or half human/half machine or even half human/half demon?  Could the giants be born again on earth, to wrech havoc on Christians and to conquer the world for the anti-Christ?
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    Could these stories of aliens from other planets be the explanation for how these giants have come into existence?  How else can they be explained?  These giant/aliens with super-technology, super (demonic) intelligence, who "bring peace" to the world.  Has the US govt been bringing these beings into existence in places like area 51?
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    As Christ said about the end times:  And as in the days of Noe, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.  (Matt 24:33).  Is it really that far-fetched of an idea?


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    Re: Giants were upon the Earth in those days (Genesis 6:4))
    « Reply #11 on: July 26, 2019, 08:06:42 PM »
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  • What you wrote reminded me of headlines in a newspaper story I read thirty years ago about a boy in India who was born with the skin of a snake; I'm talking scales!  Never heard anymore about this.

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    Re: Giants were upon the Earth in those days (Genesis 6:4))
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  • Giants Causeway in Ireland. 
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    Re: Giants were upon the Earth in those days (Genesis 6:4))
    « Reply #13 on: July 26, 2019, 11:30:17 PM »
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  • Giants Causeway in Ireland.
    The famous bog mummies of Ireland are of surprisingly large size, one was nearly 8 feet in height.  

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    Re: Giants were upon the Earth in those days (Genesis 6:4))
    « Reply #14 on: July 27, 2019, 01:20:57 AM »
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  • How did these beings survive the flood????
    Was Noah's wife one of them?
    They didn't. The only human beings to survive the flood were Noe and his wife, and his sons and their wives.

    THe whole idea as I understand it was to cleanse the earth and allow a new
    Beginning so why would God save Noe's wife if she was one of them.

    It seems to me that there are different categories of giants - those presented in photos by Cera who seem benign and even disabled, and the type spoken of in the OT who are evil entities.

    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.