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Offline monka966

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Generational Spirits
« on: April 10, 2019, 07:20:44 AM »
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  • What is the sound/correct teaching of the Holy Roman Catholic Church on the topic of generational spirits (i.e. demon(s) attached to family lineage(s))? I came across a number of conferences on this particular topic given by Fr. Ripperger (courtesy of YouTube), and even though his talks make a lot of sense to me, he gives very few references to the actual teaching(s) of the Church. I know Fr. Ripperger is a priest with the FSSP, so in a sense he is not fully traditional. Any help with this topic is greatly appreciated. God bless.


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    Re: Generational Spirits
    « Reply #1 on: April 10, 2019, 09:13:28 AM »
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  • I gather that it's speculative, based on the experiences of exorcists who have dealt with these things.  There's certainly nothing against Catholic teaching there.

    It's the common theological opinion that not only do individuals have guardian angels, but entities united under God, such as family joined in two validly-married spouses, along with their children, or even countries, or other organizations, have guardian angels.  At Fatima, Our Lady referred to the Guardian Angel of Portugal.

    So, conversely, there's nothing to preclude various evil spirits from latching onto (and being assigned by the devil to torment) a particular family or family line.  In fact, I consider this likely to be true.

    I also believe that it's reasonable to assume that the diabolical attacks are more concentrated around Traditional Catholics.  So few people have the faith today, and so many have willingly given themselves over to error and also to the immoral ways of the world, that the number of demons are free to concentrate their efforts on the remaining Catholics out there.  They needn't waste their time on these others.  So instead of being able to muster one or two demons to attack a Catholic family in days of old, they may have hundreds or thousands available to take on the job.  That is why it is more important than ever to be devoted to Our Lady and the angels, to use Holy Water, Blessed Salt, and Sacramentals.  I think there is great value in the book Deliverance Prayers by Father Ripperger.  I have seen violent (clearly diabolical) attacks on many Traditional Catholic families.

    Of course these demons have no power over any baptized Catholic, per se, but it takes just a little bit of letting our guard down before they're waiting to swoop in.  More than ever we need to say the St. Michael prayer and pray to our guardian angels.  And it makes sense to pray to our family's guardian angel to help against any such generational spirits who might be attacking our families.


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    Re: Generational Spirits
    « Reply #2 on: April 10, 2019, 11:29:57 AM »
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  • That is a very interesting question. I also wonder if there is any official teaching, or maybe some approved literature (maybe saints or other clergy(?) to reference here?
    From my current perspective, I strongly lean in favor of your opinion, Ladislaus. 

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    Re: Generational Spirits
    « Reply #3 on: April 10, 2019, 11:43:41 AM »
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  • It is important to not get to the point of seeing a demon behind every bush, though.  There are other sources of evil in the world, such as the world and the flesh, and the effects/consequences of one's sins and other bad choices.  Yet the war of demons against human beings is quite real, totally backed up by Church teaching, and there's nothing (other than God's will) that would prevent demons from latching onto a family.

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    Re: Generational Spirits
    « Reply #4 on: April 10, 2019, 11:46:07 AM »
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  • Here's part 1 (of 3) from Father Ripperger --



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    Re: Generational Spirits
    « Reply #5 on: April 10, 2019, 11:54:06 AM »
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  • I looked for official teachings on this subject a long time ago but could not find anything authoritative. I know that as a child, I was taught basically the same thing as Fr. R preaches, albeit without all the details. IMO, it is somewhere among those things traditional but unwritten which have been handed down from generation to generation. 
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse

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    Re: Generational Spirits
    « Reply #6 on: April 10, 2019, 12:06:47 PM »
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  • St. Paul (Ephesians 6:12) --
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    For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood; but against principalities and powers, against the rulers of the world of this darkness, against the spirits of wickedness in the high places.

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    Re: Generational Spirits
    « Reply #7 on: April 10, 2019, 12:33:34 PM »
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  • http://drbo.org/cgi-bin/s?q=sins+of+the+fathers&b=drb

    You have to keep in mind that if a particular sin is brought into the family line, then that demon can linger around and afflict a family until it's hold is broken again by someone with authority. Once you commit certain mortal sins, you give the demons a certain foothold or authority over you, this carries on until a certain level of holiness is achieved or binding prayers are said.

    He explains it all his talks, and clarifies some questions in his interview with Ryan Grant here:

    Not sure why this is confusing, it is definitely a reality. Just look at a family like the Rothschilds or Rockefellers, talk about family demons.


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    Re: Generational Spirits
    « Reply #8 on: April 10, 2019, 12:43:59 PM »
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  • "The Lord is patient and full of mercy, taking away iniquity and wickedness, and leaving no man clear, who visitest the sins of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation." - Num 14:18

     

    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse

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    Re: Generational Spirits
    « Reply #9 on: April 10, 2019, 12:57:10 PM »
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  • Is the generational sin the same as the generational spirit(s)? What spirit binding prayers would you recommend? 

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    Re: Generational Spirits
    « Reply #10 on: April 10, 2019, 01:08:34 PM »
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  • Is the generational sin the same as the generational spirit(s)? What spirit binding prayers would you recommend?
    Fr. Ripperger has a book called "Binding Prayers for Use by the Laity". You can find it Amazon, support CathInfo by getting it through their link. It is really powerful. I have a few prayers from it a friend of mine sent me screenshots of. Just be forewarned, you can only say these prayers over things you have full authority over, such as your finances, career, house, children, wife, etc. If you are a wife, you do not have authority over your husband and saying binding prayers when you have no authority will cause the demons to severely attack you, so please be forewarned when saying these prayers you need proper authority to do so or you will be severely demonically attacked.


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    Re: Generational Spirits
    « Reply #11 on: April 10, 2019, 01:27:31 PM »
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  • So, in my case it would be my children for example. How about my husband's addictions or my marriage?

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    Re: Generational Spirits
    « Reply #13 on: April 10, 2019, 02:00:34 PM »
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  • Is this it?

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    Yes,
    And again, you have no authority over your husband. You can pray for him, but not use binding prayers on him. You can use them on your children though.

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    Re: Generational Spirits
    « Reply #14 on: April 10, 2019, 02:01:51 PM »
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  • So, in my case it would be my children for example. How about my husband's addictions or my marriage?

    According to Father R, as mother you have authority over your children, and as a wife you have authority over your husband's body (due to the marriage vows) ... and presumably the addictions involve his body.