[gladius_veritatis]

I thought a thread dealing with 2012, however generally, might be of service.

I just came across this info -- http://www.2012unlocked.com/?hop=sands26 -- which may or may not be THE most solid, useful, etc (I just don't know yet, as I only came across it today).  I have watched a few videos over the years, read a few docs, etc.  Perhaps members can link in this or that, offering their thoughts as we go.  IMO, it is crystal clear these times are getting notably more intense (and have been rather intense since the V2 era) with each passing month.  Natural/pagan info is not, of necessity, at variance with Catholic info, if you will.  Grace builds upon nature, faith is ABOVE reason.  There is every reason to think the reason myriad prophecies from Catholic sources seem to dovetail to some degree with non-Catholic sources is...truth has a natural AND a super-natural level (if you will) -- and the two levels cannot contradict each other.  Truth is truth, period, even is some of it is inaccessible to unaided reason (thus, our need for divine revelation).

Anyway, we are, IMO, headed into the mother of all meat grinders -- and it is for our own good and by the mercy of God.  I call this time the Purification and, boy, do we need it.  Godspeed :)

[roscoe]

The Sun is in motion and it's not going round the Earth

http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/the_photonic_belt.htm

All should read The Day The Earth Nearly Died by Allan and Delair

[Caminus]

It's No Coincidence That Every Major (And Minor) Religion...
Every Organization With Far-Reaching Roots In History...
Have Seen This Coming

Except Catholicism.  

The Bible, Nostradamus and the Hopi Prophecy all predict planet-wide doom as well

Where?!

This thing is dripping with fraud.  He is taking advantage of credulous people.  

[gladius_veritatis]

Perhaps it/he is, perhaps not.

As for Catholicism, there are myriad prophecies that are clearly about this time, Matthew.  Have you ever read Yves Dupont's book on Catholic Prophecy? --- http://www.scribd.com/doc/4956324/Catholic-Prophecy

Where does the Bible predict doom?  Uh, take a look in the last book. :rolleyes:  The words you quoted make no claim that the Bible specifically mentions 2012.

[gladius_veritatis]

FWIW, I just threw the link in with zero intention of it being any kind of focus.  The focus of the thread is 2012.

[Caminus]

Perhaps it/he is, perhaps not.

As for Catholicism, there are myriad prophecies that are clearly about this time, Matthew.  Have you ever read Yves Dupont's book on Catholic Prophecy? --- http://www.scribd.com/doc/4956324/Catholic-Prophecy

Where does the Bible predict doom?  Uh, take a look in the last book. :rolleyes:  The words you quoted make no claim that the Bible specifically mentions 2012.

Eamon, the whole thing is about 2012.  He throws the bible in there, on par with soothsayers and false religions, with the implication being that it too states 2012 will bring the end of days.  That's false.  If he wants to manipulate other sources for monetary gain, I suppose that's on him, but when he starts making claims regarding real sources of divine revelation, that's where I draw the line.  

Of course the world will end sometime, but the surest way to err is to venture precise times.  In a general way, the end is near.  The AntiChrist probably walks the earth and has been since 1398.  I don't need some irreligious idiot trying to make a buck telling me what I should or shouldn't do.  

So what does Yves say about it?  Does he venture precise dates?

[Cristian]

The AntiChrist probably walks the earth and has been since 1398.

What happened at that time?

[gladius_veritatis]

You are welcome to draw whatever lines you like.  No harm in that.

Dupont simply gathers together the many prophecies about this period of turmoil (especially within the Church), making it clear that it has been foretold -- and that it shall all be resolved in a most unexpected manner, resulting in the reign of the Great Monarch and Holy Pope.

Have you ever read any of his works?  He had a periodical in the 70s called World Trends.  He was quite knowledgeable, pious, and his comments made a lot of sense -- still do.

FWIW, as the vast majority of the world has become indifferent/ignorant about the supernatural, it is to be expected that even the observations that are correct or merely plausible, from a natural perspective, will likely contain comments that make it clear the source is infected with the spirit of the age.

While perusal of such information might not be for everyone, there is useful info that can be found by those who want to learn more -- always keeping the eyes fixed upon the divine plan.

As for the prophecies of various Catholics, they were given for a reason -- to provide hope in these dark days.

[gladius_veritatis]

Of course the world will end sometime, but the surest way to err is to venture precise times.

FWIW, 2012, etc., is not about the END of the world, IMO -- just the end of the world as we know it.  Think of it as a little housecleaning that will be of the kind and degree that can only be done by the Almighty, especially at this late, corrupt hour.

[Caminus]

[CM]

Caminus, that is the most compelling an interesting thing I have ever read from you.  VERY interesting.

[Catholic Samurai]

The date of this letter was 1407, subtract 9 and we arrive at 1398 as the birth year of the AntiChrist.  Then it dawned on me that 666 may not merely be a symbolic number, but actually his age upon manifesting himself.  This public manifestation of the AntiChrist at 666 years of age would be 2064.  

If this is so, if I am still alive, I should be 73 by that time. I dont know if I'd prefer to be martyred in battle or captivity, or survive and see the wonders of Elias and watch St.Michael crush the anti-christ?

[Catholic Samurai]

I remember that St.Don Bosco said that 2013 would be the year of the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart, but Dec.21, 2012 is pretty close to that. If the 3 Days of Darkness did happen on that day would end on Christmas. Our Lord says in the book of Matthew pray that your flight may not take place in winter and Our Lady said the same thing, but I forgot where.

[sedetrad]

Caminus,

Your conjecture also fits the timeline of the great monarch and Holy pope prophesies that he would rule for about 40 years in the age of Mary and then would come the time of the antichrist.

[sedetrad]

Caminus,

That is a fascinating theory and it makes much sense.

Andy