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Offline Diego

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« on: December 31, 2012, 05:26:27 PM »
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  • After Newtown, Jєωs Lead Renewed Push on Guns
    Lawmakers and Community Play Key Role in Debate


    Read more: http://forward.com/articles/168063/after-newtown-Jєωs-lead-renewed-push-on-guns/?p=all#ixzz2GfugsE6i
    http://forward.com/articles/168063/after-newtown-Jєωs-lead-renewed-push-on-guns/?p=all

    Jєωιѕн Daily Forward Saturday, 29 December 2012
    JєωS FOR CIVIL DISARMAMENT — Among the leading voices calling for gun control are (clockwise from upper left): international finance tycoon George Soros; Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.); Sen. Diane Feinstein (D-Calif.); New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg; Sen. Charles Schumder (D-N.Y.); and Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel.

    WASHINGTON — A Jєωιѕн community strongly supportive of gun control plus Jєωιѕн lawmakers  eager to enact new gun control laws may bring Jєωs into a lead role as the nation debates federal measures to rein in mass murders at its malls and schools.
    The new openness to legislation and other measures following the slaughter of 26 elementary school children and school staff in Newtown, Conn. — plus the killer’s mother — is welcomed by most Jєωιѕн organizations, which have long supported gun control. But in recent years, with the prospects for progress on this front all but hopeless until the December murders at Sandy Hook Elementary  School, those organizations have been largely passive on the issue.

    PUTTING ISSUE ON FRONT BURNER

    Now, activists are fighting to seize the moment and get gun control back on the front burner.
    “There has been an ebb and flow of activism on this issue,” said Dan Mariaschin, executive vice president of B’nai B’rith International, one of the  groups calling for legislation to limit the sales of assault weapons. “It is an issue we as a community care deeply about, but it didn’t find itself at the top of the agenda of Jєωιѕн groups.”
    In recent days, that latent passion has come alive. The Jєωιѕн Council for Public Affairs has called on members to sign a petition advocating “meaningful legislation” to limit access to assault weapons. The Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism began reaching out to other Jєωιѕн movements and to non-Jєωιѕн faith groups in an attempt to create an interfaith coalition to back the drive for gun control.

    INTRODUCING ANTI-GUN LEGISLATION

    “This can be a model for Congress on how people can work together at times like this,” said Rachel Laser, the RAC’s deputy director. “I think the faith community can play a central role in getting the ball across the line.”
    On Capitol Hill, the effort to introduce legislation limiting access to weapons has been led by several Jєωιѕн lawmakers, all Democrats (though one now uses the Independent label). California Senator Dianne Feinstein, a longtime leader on the issue, intends to introduce legislation for renewing the ban on the sale and possession of assault weapons, which expired in 2004.

    OTHER Jєωιѕн LAWMAKERS JOIN IN

    New York Senator Charles Schumer, another leading gun control advocate, has called for legislation that would increase background checks. Senator Frank Lautenberg of New Jersey announced his plan to reintroduce legislation banning the sale of high-capacity magazines. The two Jєωιѕн senators from Connecticut,  Richard Blumenthal and independent Joseph Lieberman, also stood at the forefront of calls for gun control following the tragedy that hit their state.
    But perhaps the most prominent voice on the issue has been that of New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, who has been urging President Obama, ever since the December 14 shooting, to make gun control his top priority. During the 2012 election cycle, Bloomberg also funded a super PAC targeting pro-gun candidates.

    PECULIAR SENSE OF Jєωιѕн SECURITY

    One reason for broad Jєωιѕн support of gun control, Mariaschin said, has to do with the community’s sense of security, “which perhaps leads us to feel that the possession of assault weapons is completely unneeded.”
    Rabbi Eric Yoffie, former head of the Reform movement, listed in a recent Haaretz article  several reasons for Jєωs siding with supporters of gun control: the community’s affiliation with the Democratic Party; the fact that Jєωs are urban people and detached from the culture of hunting or gun ownership, and suspicion toward the  NRA, which is “associated in the minds of many Jєωs with extremist positions that frighten Jєωs and from which they instinctively recoil.”


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    « Reply #1 on: December 31, 2012, 05:53:18 PM »
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  • I think its unconstitutional to ban firearms. The second firearms are removed from people is the second that people would get tormented severely. The right to own firearms presents a threat to people who torment people. They realize that if they push too hard then they might just get shot. This to me is a good thing. I swear if firearms are banned then people are going to get tormented that much more. Not only that but little old ladies will be overpowered by thieves who are trying to steal their purse. Take firearms away and the little old lady stands no chance of defending herself. Not to mention, people's houses and property can be broken into, and they cannot defend themselves. How would you feel if a group of people broke into your house at night, raped your wife, and stole valuable items that belonged to you. All the while you could not defend your family against this mob because firearms were banned. I would say the pros outweigh the cons regarding our right to bare arms.

    If anything they should put metal detectors in every school to prevent shootings.


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    « Reply #2 on: December 31, 2012, 07:11:26 PM »
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  • Back to the Future: What History Teaches About Gun Confiscations

    by Dave Hodges -  thecommonsenseshow.com

    December 29, 2012 -

    It is clear that Obama, Boxer, the media, Hollywood stars and host of other elected representatives are coming after our guns. Leading the media charge is none other Michael Moore in which he implores the nation to let the murders of 20 Sandy Hook elementary students not “be in vain and stand for gun control.” Moore seems to forget that he and his family have several armed body guards. Then there is Obama who refuses to mandate that gun free zones at schools be replaced with armed guards designed in order to protect our children. And Obama also seems to forget to mention that he has 11 armed guards protecting his children while they attend school in a “gun free zone.” Oh, I think Obama and Moore think that our children are important. It is just that their children are much more important that our children. Simply put, Obama and Moore advocate for “rules for thee but not for me.”



    Outright Gun Bans Are Looming

    Regrettably, I believe that we are going to see an incrementally based approach to seizing our guns on the part of the Obama administration. Subsequently, Americans could very well be on the verge of committing “National ѕυιcιdє by Gun Control”. The gun control advocates are positioning themselves and their gun-grabbing policies to be perfectly timed to influence people during this window of opportunity motivated by the highly suspicious set of mass shootings (e.g. Batman shootings, Sandy Hook shootings).

    All totalitarian governments begin their invasion into civil liberties with the promise of safety from whoever plays the convenient role of the “boogey man” of the day. In nαzι Germany, the original boogey man were the communists and then this specter of boogey men kept expanding until anyone who was an enemy of the State needed to be controlled and disarmed. Isn’t this what we have witnessed since the days of 9/11 with the creation of the DHS inspired MIAC report which lists returning veterans, gun owners, Libertarians, Ron Paul supporters and Constiutionalists as domestic terrorists. This is your list of people who will be disarmed first and the list will keep growing until all Americans are disarmed. The totalitarian pleas of “Let us protect you from yourself” rings loudly and clearly through the halls of Congress and in the Oval Office. History shows that when governments demand to protect you from yourself, we should all get a little bit nervous.

    History Speaks Will American Listen?

    History shows that bad things — very bad things — happen when a government confiscates the guns of its citizens. It is an undisputed fact that gun control and gun confiscation has preceded every instance of genocide in the 20th century. How quickly we forget the lessons of history, or, perhaps we never bothered to learn the true lessons of history in the first place.

    If we ever allow government to subvert the Second Amendment, we very well could be witnessing a prelude to an American genocide for specific targeted groups, for there is nothing as dangerous to a totalitarian regime as an educated and well-armed populace. Totalitarian regimes flourish in an atmosphere of ignorance. The dumbing down of American students has removed the first obstacle which could stand in the way of the establishment of a brutal police state control grid. The second obstacle, the removal of America’s citizens guns as a last line of defense against tyrannical government has commenced with the catalyst being the Sandy Hook shootings. And let’s not forget that this criminal Obama administration has been caught shipping guns into Mexico to the drug cartels in order to undermine the Second Amendment, and we are supposed to trust these proven criminals to be the only ones who will have guns in the new UN controlled America?

    What Happens After Gun Confiscation?

    Before we passively allow the Obama administration strip away our last line of defense from an increasingly totalitarian government, by acquiescing to the United Nations and American advocates for gun control, perhaps we should examine the end game resulting from past gun control efforts:



    1. In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915-1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves against their ethnic-cleansing government, were arrested and exterminated.

    2. In 1929, the former Soviet Union established gun control as a means of controlling the “more difficult” of their citizens. From 1929 to the death of Stalin, 40 million Soviets met an untimely end at the hand of various governmental agencies as they were arrested and exterminated.

    3. After the rise of the nαzι’s, Germany established their version of gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, 13 million Jєωs, gypsies, ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs, the mentally ill, and others, who were unable to defend themselves against the “Brown Shirts”, were arrested and exterminated. Interestingly, the Brown Shirts were eventually targeted for extermination themselves following their blind acts of allegiance to Hitler. Any American military and police would be wise to grasp the historical significance of the Brown Shirts’ fate.

    4. After Communist China established gun control in 1935, an estimated 50 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves against their fascist leaders, were arrested and exterminated.

    5. Closer to home, Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayans, unable to defend themselves against their ruthless dictatorship, were arrested and exterminated.

    6. Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves from their dictatorial government, were arrested and exterminated.

    7. Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million of the “educated” people, unable to defend themselves against their fascist government, were arrested and exterminated.

    8. In 1994, Rwanda disarmed the Tutsi people and being unable to defend themselves from their totalitarian government, nearly one million were summarily executed.

    The total numbers of victims who lost their lives because of gun control is approximately 70 million people in the 20th century. The historical voices from 70 million corpses speak loudly and clearly to those Americans who are advocating for a de facto gun ban. Governments murdered four times as many civilians as were killed in all the international and domestic wars combined. Governments murdered millions more people than were killed by common criminals and it all followed gun control.



    Historically, American gun control legislation has been imitating Hitler’s nαzι Germany gun control legislation for quite some time. Consider the key provisions of the nαzι Weapons Act of 1938 and compare it with the United States Gun Control Act of 1968. The parallels of both the provisions and the legal language are eerily similar.

    The nαzι Weapons Act
    of 1938
    United States Gun Control Act
    of 1968
    1   Classified guns for sporting purposes   1   Introduced term “sporting purpose”
    2   All Germans desiring to purchase firearms had to register with the nαzι officials and submit to a background check   2   Exempted government agencies from the controls which applied to law-abiding citizens
    3   The law assumed that non-nαzι German citizens were hostile and thereby exempted nαzι’s from the gun control law   3   The Law assumes that mentally ill people will turn their guns on innocents and the government is given the power to limt the purchase by people DEEMED to be a threat by labeling them as mentally ill.
    4   The nαzι’s assumed unrestricted power to decide what kinds of firearms could, or could not, be owned by private persons   4   Authorized the Secretary of the Treasury to decide what firearms could or could not be owned by private persons
    5   The types of ammunition that were legal were subject to control by governmental bureaucrats   5   The types of ammunition that were legal were subject to control by governmental bureaucrats
    6   Citizens under 18 years of age could not buy firearms and ammunition   6   Age restriction of 18 years and 21 years were applied to anyone who wished to purchase firearms and ammunition


    Thomas Jefferson was very clear in his writings regarding the right to bear arms. Jefferson knew that the preservation of the Republic ultimately rested upon a well-armed citizenry. Jefferson felt it was absolutely necessary for American citizens to be able to protect themselves. The protection that Jefferson spoke of was not from our obvious enemies of the day (France and Britain), but from our own government. Jefferson made this point quite clear when he admonished future generations of Americans to fulfill their duty to overthrow a government if they failed to serve the needs of the majority of its citizens.

    Private ownership of guns is the necessary component needed to fulfill the Jeffersonian mandate for national self-defense. Yet, increasingly and reminiscent of nαzι Germany, the United States government is incrementally chipping away at private citizens right to own a gun. This does doesn’t make sense because FBI statistics clearly show that 90% of the guns used in the commission of a crime are stolen! Does the government really believe that criminals, both American citizens and illegal aliens, as well as terrorists, are suddenly going to perform their civic duty and immediately register their guns? How is America better-served if the only ones who don’t have access to guns are the law-abiding citizens? So, one must ask who are the gun control laws designed to protect and why?

    Finally, most would wonder what gun confiscation would look and feel like in America. No speculation is necessary because of the gun confiscations which took place in New Orleans in 2006 in the aftermath of Katrina. Any American who thinks that gun confiscation is a good idea, needs to desperately watch the following video.

    (Video available on the above mentioned website.)

    Is this the government that you are going to accept? Even the most brainwashed of Americans cannot deny what you just watched on the preceding video. If we allow Obama to possess the ability to ban our guns, this is what you will likely see across the country and the potential for this to spread into a flash point for widespread violence, and even revolution, should be concerning to all of us. This issue, in my humble opinion, needs to be our line in the sand against this tyrannical government.

    Historians generally agree that there are eight identifiable stages associated with an unfolding genocide. It would behoove all Americans to familiarize themselves with these stages in order to accurately assess the developing threat should gun confiscation ever become a reality. An analysis of the applicability of the eight stages of genocide to present day America will be the focus of the next part in this series.

     

    Offline Diego

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    « Reply #3 on: December 31, 2012, 09:06:07 PM »
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  • We saw the guns & ammo panic-buying before Clinton's AW ban. We saw the panic-buying in 2008 when Obummer was first elected.

    Those were just warmups for the panic-buying (and price gouging) now.

    The "Chosen People" have told of their plans for the goyim and now the gun racks and ammo shelves are bare, prices are sky high, and backorders are seriously wait listed.

    The goyim have an inkling of what is to come.

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    « Reply #4 on: January 01, 2013, 08:21:03 AM »
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  • Do you think they will make an exception for the Jєωιѕн paramiltary groups which are armed with military weaponry, and are being trained by IDF members. Such groups as those presently operating in many states, and soon to be in all states?

    Their stated purpose to protect and defend the Jєωιѕн community.


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    « Reply #5 on: January 01, 2013, 09:28:38 AM »
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  • Quote from: J.Paul
    Do you think they will make an exception for the Jєωιѕн paramiltary groups which are armed with military weaponry, and are being trained by IDF members. Such groups as those presently operating in many states, and soon to be in all states?

    Their stated purpose to protect and defend the Jєωιѕн community.


    A little snippet a friend of mine picked up on was a Walter Bingham hinting at how "austerity" is a slippery slope that will lead to inter war Germany. The point was made on Radio Israel  that Jєωs should go to Israel as they may no longer be safe in Europe.

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    « Reply #6 on: January 01, 2013, 01:00:44 PM »
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  • They already have made an exception for Judaic paramilitary groups. Not one of those groups have been labelled or stopped.

    Next time THEY mention "gun control," we say:

    FIRST: Disarm Israel to stop the mass murders there.
    THEN: Let's see how that works out.