Is anyone willing or able to tell me the gist of this sermon of Mons. Lefebvre, from 1976.



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Thanks, Raoul. Abp. Lefebvre pointed out nearly every reason people use to defend the post-concilliar popes: he's imprisoned, he's paralyzed by the Curia, he's an impostor, etc. etc. etc.

Oh good, I just found this in print.  

I couldn't understand certain things, I thought he said "Whoever is with the Pope is with the 'schiste,'" which means shale, he actually said "le Christ," lol.  

This will go much faster now --

These visions of those who say that the Holy Father is a prisoner, that the Holy Father is somehow incapable, that he's drugged, for the thirteen years that he's been there he has no responsibility for anything.  They've locked this man up and then eventually we get to the point where there's another Pope who is imprisoned under the Vatican, then they've given him a double and other things like this that are just crazy [ aberrantes ], crazy, crazy, no?  Idiotic, completely idiotic, aren't they, and all of this is very smart on the part of the devil because this sways a certain amount of people, right, who are always saying:  The Pope!  The Pope!  The Pope!  No, no, no, don't speak to me about the Pope!  Be obedient!  Be obedient!  I beg you, I beg you, it's his entourage, it's not him.

But I will say you can also look at the problem from another angle and say:  good, ultimately I agree with you, it's not possible that the Pope who is protected by the Holy Ghost, by the words of Our Lord Jesus Christ, could do things like this.  There we agree, it's not possible, it doesn't fit, this destruction of the Church, this destruction of the Social Reign of Christ the King, this destruction of the Catholic faith in every aspect, every catechism, every university, every religious order, the seminaries, everywhere you look it is the systematic destruction of the Church, which was aimed at by all of these reforms that the Vatican implemented, because Vatican II wasn't, I'd say, what allowed these reforms to be put into effect, what had to be done was to implement the reforms of Vatican II in an equivocal way, this allowed them to start putting the reforms into practice and this was the goal, it [ Vatican II I believe ] was the springboard that permitted all this, so it can be said that the Holy Father, in effect, that it's not possible that a Pope could do all this, therefore he's not Pope.

This reasoning is worth, this reasoning, I don't know, I don't say that's what's going on and there are several scenarios, maybe this one has some merit, we'll know the truth later maybe, I don't know, I don't know.  The way I see it, it's not clear yet, you understand, but one day if it came to light that it was true, and this is something that is far from impossible, here also, there are apparitions that say the same thing and these apparitions have been recognized by the See of Peter, Fatima, La Salette, that say that the devil will climb to the highest places in the Church, I don't know if by the "highest place in the Church" that means Secretary of State, and then stops there, or if it goes even farther, if it goes all the way to the Pope.  I don't know maybe even to someone who says he's the Pope, I don't know, but you know this is something that isn't impossible and theologians have studied this problem, the theologians have studied this problem to see if it's something that can happen, if a Pope can perhaps be a heretic and as a result excommunicated from the Church and therefore all his acts become illegitimate and invalid.  And if, just as a hypothesis, once again I just don't know,  don't put words in my mouth, I don't know, but if at last it comes  out that quietly that there are certain connections to Masonry, imagine that the Pope was registered in a Masonic lodge before his election, he would be excommunicated.  Excommunicated...  His election is invalid, he can't be Pope and we would have had for all this time...  A Pope who wasn't Pope.  This is possible.  Once again I don't say this is what is really happening but what do you want in a situation like this, we're looking for a solution.  We find ourselves with a problem that has almost no theological solution, theologically, I say theologically almost impossible to solve, so we search for a solution, fine!  A solution that he is a prisoner, drugged, this is possible.  I admit that when you see him move around and talk, personally I haven't seen him for two years, I haven't seen him in the flesh, I mean privately but with a public audience, I saw him put aside his paper and his script, speaking with a skill, a fluidity, getting to the point, with intelligence but in full possession of his faculties, in full possession of his faculties, not a man who had been drugged, or who has been given a shot or who... Not at all!  The farthest thing from it!

Well then, when he blessed the Pentecostals, was there a revolver pointed at his head?  When he kissed the feet of the Orthodox [ priest?  I don't remember this occasion ]... No, this is absurd, it's not possible.  Besides Mgr. Benelli said to me three weeks ago, when I saw him, Mgr. Benelli said to me:  'It's the Pope who wrote you those letters, you don't want to believe it but it's the Pope who wrote them to you, he is fully up to date, he is up to date about everything, he knows very well what he's doing and he's the one who wants all this happen and he makes the decisions and when I leave, when this conversation we're having is over and I leave, I am going to see the Pope every day, and I am immediately going to tell him what was said in this conversation.'

Jim said:

Raoul, are you a native Francophone? If not, how long did it take you to learn it? I remember you talking about how there is a traditionalist world beyond the US, and how French opened this world up to you. Spanish can do the same for me, with blogs such as Radio Cristiandad et al.

I began learning French when I was about 18, since I was a cineaste and liked commie and/or gnostic directors like Jean-Luc Godard at the time.  Then I became more interested in German, for an even worse reason ( I had a German girlfriend ).  But I was always lazily trying to learn French, with gaps of months, mostly just by poring over books of decadent literature.  

Last year when I felt that God was calling me to live in France in the future, I made a really serious effort, began studying grammar finally, and made huge strides.  Thanks entirely to God.  My mind is so much sharper now than it was before, because of the patience that I've been taught.  I can now understand French fluently, and read and translate the highest-level French, though I don't have much practice speaking it.  I am still awkward and nervous in that respect.

Also, please remember me in prayers. The home-alonist/Feeneyite temptations are ever present, though not as bad. I wish to consecrate myself according to St. Louis de Montfort, as you recommended. I will contact my priest and have it done after school is over.

To ask me is to oblige me!  I'm glad that what I said about the consecration helped, you're shaving some time off purgatory for me!  Or keeping me out of hell...

Exilenomore sent me something from Cardinal Pie, another French figure who is VERY respected in French trad circles, but little known here.  There are many, these books I have been translating for CMRI by the likes of Bp. Dupanloup and Abbé Timon-David are quite extraordinary.  If there is any kind of audience for Billot, who knows, maybe I could do that next, but I have to "consult" with God because He might want me to take on other challenges.  

By the way, I apologize for jumping down your throat when you first came on the site  :dancing:

I don't remember it.  I often find that the best relationships begin with a good punch-up.  I'm hoping Nadie might turn out to be a friend after I've bloodied his nose.  :)

And Telesphorous, even though I have him on "Ignore" because he isn't good for my physical or spiritual health, will be OK when his voice breaks, I expect.  He reminds me irresistably of Bluebottle from the Goon Show.  

Pie is top-shelf, although I think some of Dupanloup is in English already, so make sure you check bibliographies/library catalogues before doing too mchh work!

Billot in English would do more for sedevacantism in the English-speaking world than any other single author outside Bellarmine himself, I think.

This is a really short vid. of the Abp. He seems much older and quite sad, maybe even close to tears.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=ULscEaplQt0Z4