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« on: September 10, 2012, 05:05:13 PM »
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    WE WANT OUR DADDY HOME FOR CHRISTMAS
    Won't you please help?

    Gerry McGeough's wife and 4 children at the Civil Rights March in Tyrone, August 26, 2012
     

    Gerry McGeough, a 53 year old teacher, published author and former Tyrone County President of the Ancient Order of Hibernians, is a native of the Brantry area of County Tyrone, Ireland. Married with four young children, Gerry returned to Ireland in 1996. He then graduated from Trinity College Dublin with an Honours Degree in History and attained a Higher Diploma in Education from University College Dublin.

    As a former Ard Chomlairle member of Sinn Féin, Gerry was an architect of the Irish peace process and continues to support a peaceful and political solution to achieving a United Ireland.

    Gerry however, for a number of reasons, became disenchanted with the political direction of Sinn Féin at that time, in particular because of the stance taken by Sinn Féin in their support of abortion and he left the party in 2001.

    On March 7, 2007 he stood as an Independent Republican MLA candidate in the Stormont Assembly elections. The following day as he left the count centre in Omagh, he was surrounded by police officers and arrested.

    The timing of his arrest, nine years after the signing of the Good Friday Agreement raised many questions as to the motives. In an attempt to explain the unusual circuмstances surrounding his arrest, the PSNI stated that for many years they had been looking for Gerry, but could not locate him. However, since 1999, Gerry had been travelling freely to and from Northern Ireland. He was stopped at vehicle check points many times, called for jury service on two occasions and applied for planning permission to build his family home in Brantry. Their children attend the local school. Throughout his election campaign as a high profile candidate, Gerry made numerous appearances on both television and live radio programmes.

    After four years of legal limbo, Gerry was eventually charged with having allegedly wounded part-time UDR soldier Sammy Brush, possession of firearms and membership of the IRA. These alleged offences date back to 1975 and 1981.

    Gerry, prior to his incarceration on February 18, 2011, suffered two heart attacks and now has six stents inserted. He was convicted of these alleged offences in a non-jury Diplock Court in February 2011, imprisoned in HMP Maghaberry on February 18, 2011 and then in April 2011 he was sentenced to twenty years imprisonment.

    Donations to help Gerry’s wife and 4 children can be made as follows:


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    Email: cbca163@gmail.com

    Gerry McGeough’s arrest and incarceration was politically motivated and he should be released immediately and allowed to go home to his wife and four children. Mr. McGeough supports the peace process and was one of the architects of the Good Friday Agreement.

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    « Reply #1 on: September 10, 2012, 05:07:52 PM »
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  • He was the editor of the Catholic magazine 'The Hibernian'.
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    Happy Birthday, Gerry McGeough

    It truly makes me sad to see this current picture of my personal friend of 20 years, Gerry McGeough. The British may have incarcerated him unjustly, but they have not broken his spirit. God bless you Gerry, and your supporters in the USA have not forgotten you.
     
    And Gerry, we are all thinking about ya !! — at Maghaberry Prison.


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    « Reply #3 on: September 11, 2012, 03:19:41 PM »
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  • This sounds important enough, but reading the OP it made no sense to me, so
    I went to the linked website in an attempt to understand, but after reading it for
    an hour, I'm still in the dark. What is this all about?


    Here is one part of the site that would seem to explain things:




    Monday, July 23, 2012
    Shake Hands With Injustice


    Martin Galvin writes an extensive piece on the history of the Gerrry McGeough case for The Pensive Quill

    One former IRA commander was presented for a “royal handshake” while one suspected former Volunteer was presented with a more customary brand of royal invitation for carrying out IRA commands. Gerry McGeough found himself on a dubious honours list. His royal invitation, engraved by three Queen’s Bench appeals judges, “invited” the Tyrone Republican to remain a guest of their “gracious queen” at HMP Maghaberry. It was an offer he could not refuse...


    --------I take this to mean that Gerry McGeongh was denied the like privilege that
    was granted to someone else in his same situation, and instead was dealt the
    insult of being sent to prison (remain a guest at HMP Maghaberry). Is HMP
    Maghaberry an English prison on Irish soil?



    ...The Stormont Agreement says that credit towards 2 year early release must be accorded those “sentenced outside Northern Ireland” on pre-1998 conflict related offenses. The crown nullified these terms and summarily dispensed with the 7 1/2 years McGeough had spent on IRA charges in German and American prisons.

    Those who choreographed the “do-able” handshake did not permit inconvenient topics like Republican prisoners or crown murder victims, to intrude on their discussions. Such matters were relegated for mention after the jubilee tour, when neither Cameron nor his queen need take note. The week began with a queen’s handshake symbolizing change and ended with a queen’s bench meting out the same old injustice.


    Context

    Few legal battles embodied so many issues and inspired so much emotional reaction as that of Gerry McGeough. Dail deputies and Stormont MLAs have journeyed to Maghaberry and urged his release. Americans have given help to his family that once would have been provided by Green Cross, An cuмann Cabhrach and Tyrone PDF.

    Meanwhile DUP members, who scarcely conceal contempt for Republicans with whom they sit in partnership at Stormont, attended his trial to spew venom at someone they see as an unrepentant Republican.

    Nigel Dodds called it “outrageous” that anyone was “demanding the release of such a person from prison.” Arlene Foster decried any “special treatment” while demanding McGeough serve his 20 year sentence “in full”, apparently without normal remission, much less the two year early release accorded to other prisoners. Maurice Morrow whinges about public monies paid for McGeough’s legal defense, while collecting public monies as Councillor, Lord and MLA triple-jobber.

    In order to understand the issues and emotions running through this case, it is important to begin with the crucial political debate that foreshadowed McGeough’s imprisonment.


    Debate

    The March 2007 election climaxed a watershed period. Sinn Fein had stamped party approval on the re-named Royal Ulster Constabulary, and urged supporters to ratify this move at the polls. The vote would launch a new era of justice.

    Patten, they claimed, had opened the constabulary ranks to nationalists. Future chief constables and someday even justice ministers would take up their posts subject to a Sinn Fein veto. Constabulary boards and district partnerships were touted as controls which Republicans would work to “put manners on the RUC.” A widely quoted Andersonstown News editorial predicted it would be “fun” bringing the RUC to heel. Calls to “trust the leadership” swayed many doubters.

    Other equally sincere veteran Republicans, Brendan Hughes and John Kelly among them, felt a moral duty to say no. The RUC was the cutting edge of British repression. RUC hands were bloodstained by shoot-to-kill, or murders carried out in collusion with loyalists. Hundreds had been locked in British prisons, on confessions taken under torture and whitewashed with perjury in Diplock courts. The re-badged RUC-PSNI would merely dress up British law and rule in new insignias and uniforms. The constabulary would be commanded, trained and deployed by RUC veterans.

    These skeptical Republicans feared that familiar nationalist faces on constabulary boards would become cosmetic fronts allowing the British to camouflage repression behind the mask of powerless public talking shops.

    Gerry McGeough was among those veteran Republicans who stood against any nationalist endorsement for the British constabulary. Without party machinery or funding, he took the debate against the RUC to the same Fermanagh-South Tyrone venues where he had once campaigned for Bobby Sands MP.

    McGeough said this battle for Republican hearts and minds was really about future elections, when dreamers of fun putting manners on the RUC had awakened to the dawn of continuing British repression.

    With his votes cast but not yet counted, McGeough walked out to retrieve an item from his car. He never returned. The renamed constabulary had pocketed its mandate and was about to take a historic first step in its version of a new era of justice. The candidate was surrounded in a premeditated arrest by waiting RUC-PSNI officers.

    Gerry McGeough, over fifty, married and settled with four young children, was charged with joining the Provisional IRA in 1975, and, taking part in a 1981 IRA ambush of an armed member of the UDR, in which both were seriously wounded.

    The new era had begun with the new constabulary making an old fashioned retaliatory arrest of an Independent Republican whose real offense seemed to be campaigning for election against them.


    Delays

    McGeough’s solicitors filed for dismissal based on decades of delay. The Tyrone Republican could have been arrested 20 years earlier, simply by lodging an extradition warrant during his 4 year confinement in a notorious German bunker prison, or during his 3 years in an American jail on IRA weapons charges.

    McGeough lived openly in Tyrone, joined in BBC studio debates, attended public rallies, and gave speeches outside constabulary barracks with his campaign posters prominently displayed.  Instead the crown moved against him only in March 2007, outside the polling centre where his votes were being tallied.

    A British judge had refused to charge RUC members for Nora McCabe’s murder on July 9, 1981, and for perjury during the cover-up which followed, even after television film belied their cover story of rioting and petrol bombers. Too late, the judge said. Charges delayed so many years would be a clear abuse of process and inevitably dismissed.

    Somehow this same judge applied different rules to Gerry McGeough, for an incident which occurred four weeks before Nora McCabe was murdered by the RUC.

    Human rights observers from British-Irish Rights Watch and the Committee for the Administration of Justice were ordered out of the courtroom. British pledges that McGeough was free to return to Tyrone were disavowed. McGeough was blamed that no extradition warrant was lodged or that no attempt was made to bring charges when he returned home. RUC-PSNI members were blameless for the ongoing cover-up of Nora McCabe’s murder.

    If the heralded new era meant anything how could the same judges still bend the same rules in favor of the RUC-PSNI and across the backs of nationalists?


    Undeclared Amnesty

    Soon after Gerry McGeough’s arrest, the British began to admit a litany of state force murders and murder cover-ups of innocent nationalists.

    Cameron euphemistically called the Bloody Sunday murders, “unjustified and unjustifiable killings”. These are polite words for murder or manslaughter. Cover stories given under oath by these troopers before Widgery or Saville must accordingly be perjury. No arrests of any of these troopers have yet been made, including named troopers identified in multiple killings.

    Many fear that the newly announced 4 year constabulary investigation will deliver more years of delay and disappointment for these courageous families. Will this inquiry end in judicial terminations like Nora McCabe’s murder, or sham trials like those which whitewashed the murders of John Downes and Majella O’Hare?  Will the constabulary be more interested in pursuing IRA membership charges than British Army murder charges?

    The families of some other victims received apologies but no arrests. In more politically sensitive cases, such as the Ballymurphy Massacre, Pat Finucane’s assassination, or the Dublin-Monaghan Bombings, the crown refused or stonewalled any inquiry.

    No one predicts arrests of any members of the British Army or RUC who colluded in murders by their loyalist agents or tortured nationalists at interrogation centers and then sent them to Long Kesh or Armagh, with perjured accounts of voluntary confessions.

    The crown seems to have bestowed an undeclared amnesty on members of the British Army and RUC which does not apply to those Republicans like Gerry McGeough who speak against the British administration.


    Diplock Court

    A Diplock trial was ordered. Those who design repressive British laws choose their terms with deliberate irony. Words like ‘temporary’, ‘emergency’ or ‘prevention of terrorism’ invariably create provisions and powers which are permanent, lasting and routinely used to terrorize nationalists.

    These non-jury courts replaced Internment, with show trials that could be counted upon to dispose of unwanted Republicans. Diplock courts were “abolished” which meant never to be used except in every case where the crown deems them useful.

    Only a Diplock court would entertain, much less credit, the testimony against McGeough. There was no identification by any witness. McGeough was forcibly stripped and photographed after his arrest. Photos of an old wound were displayed as the crown speculated that it might possibly be a bullet wound, and possibly sustained as far back as 1981.

    A bullet fragment with no forensics or DNA link to McGeough was introduced. The smashed fragment may or may not have been the same caliber fired by then UDR member Sammy Brush.

    A key Garda witness, known as the “The Badger”, was named by former MI6 officer Fred Holroyd as someone linked to British intelligence.

    Pages from a fictional novel authored by Gerry McGeough were read into the record as evidence of intent. Finally a political asylum application, whose confidentiality is a cornerstone of international law, was admitted without hesitation.

    During the trial McGeough suffered two heart attacks. The judge ordered constables to monitor McGeough’s treatment at the hospital where he was confined, and to retrieve his medical records.

    In 1916, British commanders ordered Army doctors to keep James Connolly alive until British troopers could shoot him. Nearly a century later, it seemed a British judge feared Gerry McGeough might die from a heart attack before the crown could jail him.

    The verdict was a foregone conclusion. The flimsy evidence somehow was pronounced inescapable proof of guilt. The crown judge refused to wait for medical docuмents and directed that McGeough be taken forthwith to Maghaberry.  Senior DUP members celebrated outside the courtroom.


    Maghaberry

    McGeough was jailed for an IRA ambush that took place on June 13, 1981. Republican prisoners, in June 1981, were in the midst of a Hunger Strike, forced upon them by years of beatings and brutality, much of it accompanying mirror searches or strip-searches. Today in Maghaberry the same sort of brutal strip-searches are being inflicted, despite the agreement of August 2010, to halt the practice.

    On his sentence date McGeough was subjected to such a search. He ended up in a hospital instead of court. His solicitors noted that brutality of this type could be life threatening.

    David Ford’s appointment, with Sinn Fein backing, brought no protection to Republican prisoners from the same sort of callous brutality that Brendan Hughes and Bobby Sands resisted.

    The judge imposed a twenty year sentence, angry that Gerry McGeough made no apologies for the IRA.


    Reviews And Appeals

    The Diplock judge’s verdict and sentence did not end McGeough’s legal fight. The Stormont Agreement mandates early release for those imprisoned 2 years on pre-1998 offenses. The carefully crafted docuмent specifically referenced those “sentenced outside Northern Ireland” for qualifying offenses and noted that the rights of individual prisoners must be protected under international law.

    The provision might have been drawn up with McGeough’s case in mind.
    In August 1988 McGeough had been arrested on the Dutch-German border and charged with actions arising from the IRA campaign. He remained in a notorious German bunker prison until 1992. He was then transported under an extradition warrant to America on charges that he had supplied weapons for the IRA in 1982. Gerry McGeough was imprisoned approximately 7 1/2 years outside northern Ireland, on charges that would have been qualifying IRA offenses in the six counties. He was entitled to early release but was denied by the crown.

    McGeough filed for a judicial review to challenge the British. His solicitors cited more than a dozen comparable cases where prominent Republicans had been accorded early release credit for jail time spent in other jurisdictions through a British legal device, termed a Royal Prerogative for Mercy (RPM).

    Ironically the matter was assigned to Seamus Treacy. While an idealistic young barrister a quarter century earlier, Treacy had traveled to Germany as a human rights observer and adviser at the request of McGeough’s co-defendant Gerry Hanratty. Treacy expressed genuine anger at the conditions and injustices which Hanratty and McGeough suffered. Now donning the wig and robes of a British judge, Treacy atoned for his youthful idealism by wiping out those years from the crown ledgers. The “change agenda” had struck again.

    McGeough appealed again. Within days after the royal handshake, McGeough got the brand of royal invitation conferred on many Republicans. His appeal was denied and he was kept at HMP Maghaberry.

    The crown court redefined the words “outside northern Ireland” to mean only Britain and Ireland, without explanation why more expansive terms had deliberately been written into the agreement. Subtle technical distinctions between McGeough’s case and the dozen comparable cases introduced by his solicitors were contrived. For good measure, Britain’s Weston Park pledge that those wanted on pre-1988 offenses would not be pursued, was hastily discarded as nothing more than an unfulfilled wish, with no legal effect.

    Ironically one of the first Republican prisoners to commiserate with McGeough was Martin Corey, who within days would find himself the recipient of his own “royal invitation”.


    Settled

    It is said that Gerry McGeough will only serve 2 years with little more than 6 months to go. To paraphrase the old saying made famous by IRA author Ernie O’Malley, it is easy to sleep on another man’s 2 years.

    However the early release provided by the Stormont deal is by no means guaranteed. Ford and his parole commissioners inspire little confidence. If released McGeough would remain on British license well into his 70s. Martin Corey and Marian Price are even now examples of internment by license. No one would be surprised if still more injustice awaits Gerry McGeough.

    This case began more than 5 years ago with a soul-searching debate amongst Republicans. Many believed that endorsing the re-named RUC-PSNI and joining British constabulary boards would enable Sinn Fein to housetrain the British constabulary away from injustice. Other Republicans feared that the British would tout Sinn Fein’s backing and constabulary board seats, to make the party accomplices in British injustice. For Gerry McGeough, Marian Price, Martin Corey, and so many other victims of British oppression imposed in the queen’s name, the photograph of the royal handshake has forever sealed and settled that debate.


    Martin Galvin


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    ----------After reading that, it's still rather vague. E.g., "...the photograph of the
    royal handshake has forever sealed and settled that debate" means nothing to me!

    Here's another paragraph that might shed some light on this:


    It is said that 'those who fail to learn the lessons of history are condemned to repeat its mistakes.' Had George Santayana looked to Irish history, he might have added that those who fail to learn the lessons of British rule are condemned to see its injustices repeated.


    ----------And this:


    Internment by license is the most obvious but not most prevalent method of Interment Paterson now practices. Decades ago the British crafted catch-all criteria which empowered crown forces to intern anyone they imagined “likely to act in a manner prejudicial to good order.” Simply stated, internees could be held indefinitely for what they might do.

    Today the British have updated Internment by remand. Republicans can be denied bail where a member of the constabulary says the suspect might “re-offend”. Simply stated those presumed innocent, and thus presumed to have done nothing, are refused bail because a constabulary member presumes they are likely to do it again. Skeptical Republicans note that an increasing number of well known activists from non-politically correct Republican groups have swelled the ranks of those conveniently removed from the streets by this policy of Internment by remand.







    ------------And here are a few more supporting paragraphs:


    It is possible, dear friends, because the English and Unionists within the British Establishment, whether in Northern Ireland or in London have an ancient mindset reinforced by the fact that we, the British, have sovereignty in Northern Ireland so UK law prevails ... or should do but for the ancient mindset regarding the Irish people.

    This mindset formed over centuries is unchanged by the Good Friday Agreement. It is a mindset so old and so deeply ingrained in the English it could now be part of our genetic make-up. It renders it impossible for any member of the English ruling class to think differently unless they are determined to think differently. That determination is absent in all but a tiny number of English. It is born of discovering how we came to 'own' Ireland. It springs from the outrage which is triggered by that discovery. An English man or woman who has undergone this life-changing experience is worth his/ her weight in platinum, so rare they are on the ground.

    The English attitude to the Irish people remains unchanged, despite acknowledging that a large proportion of the great writers and poets who produced the canon of English literature had Irish roots. Around the world the English work alongside Irish engineers, teachers, lawyers, bankers, businessmen and women, doctors, surgeons and scientists yet the view of the English ruling class of the Irish remains unchanged. What is that view? It is this: that the Irish are a curious sub-species of Homo Sapiens, the Homo without the sapientia, so evident in the English. The Irish are to be regarded as untrustworthy, deeply tribal therefore still somewhat primitive. The Irish are a people who cannot see sense; they cannot understand the logic and practicability of law and the English way of doing things. The Irish are unpredictable, uncontrolled, and therefore uncontrollable.

    May I bring a little history into this? The English genetic proclivity to regard the Irish as an unknown, uncontrollable entity can be traced far back in English history. By looking at a tiny piece of the mosaic helps one to see what is happening now in Northern Ireland in a wider context.




    --------After all that, the passionate message is still cryptic. These writers are all
    excited about grave injustice but they fail to explain what the injustice is that they
    are all worked up over. Why is Gerry McGeough really in prison? The charges seem
    to be a lie, or there are no charges, or whatever, but why is keeping him in prison
    so important to someone? Is the Secretary of State that someone? Or, is the
    Secretary merely acting on someone else's orders? If so, who is that someone?
    Does that matter? What is Sinn Fein? Is "Stormont" a place? If so, what is its
    significance? Is "Stormont" a stack of paperwork? If so, what was its cause, who
    was its author, and what is its objective? What is Green Cross? Who or what is
    An cuмann Cabhrach and Tyrone PDF? Is that an Adobe file (.pdf)?

    How do you pronounce "McGeough?" Is it mick-GO? Is it ma-GOFF? Is it mac-JOE?

    You might get more sympathy from Americans if this were comprehensible. But
    if you're going to speak Gaelic it's not going to stir the hearts of Americans
    because we don't know any of that language. I know that British suppression of
    the Irish is a deep and enduring wound going back 500 years, or perhaps longer.
    And that's why I'm trying to "get this." But it's not easy to figure it out.
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    « Reply #4 on: September 11, 2012, 04:22:49 PM »
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  • I realise wikipedia is not the best website but here is the basic info regarding The Hibernian Magazine.Charles Byrne went on to become an SSPX seminarian.He left though. Prior to editing The Hibernian, Gerry McGeough was editor of the Irish Family newspaper. Sadly this publication also folded.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hibernian
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    The Hibernian was a monthly Irish magazine with the subtitle “Faith, Family and Country”.[1] Twenty-nine issues were published between May 2006 and September 2008.
    It was launched in May 2006, by Gerry McGeough, formerly a member of the Sinn Féin national executive, as editor, and Charles Byrne, a 28-year-old from Drogheda, who writes as "Cathal O Broin" (the Irish-language version of his name). The magazine was associated with the Ancient Order of Hibernians.[2]
    The magazine advocated a form of "faith and fatherland" nationalism which emphasised the persecution of Catholics in previous centuries and saw Irish identity as inseparably bound up with Catholicism. It often published articles on Irish history written from this perspective, as well as devotional articles and political/social comment. However, its publication was not without controversy and it was accused of being a "a publicity vehicle for McGeough and the extreme right in Ireland".[2]
    Issue number 25 from May 2008 featured Declan Ganley of Libertas on the cover and carried an extensive interview with him.[3]
    The magazine regularly promoted the Tridentine Rite of Mass, often in a manner sympathetic to the Society of St. Pius X and to sedevacantists.[4]
    It also promoted the activities of Fr. Nicholas Gruner, editor of the Fatima Crusader magazine, who accuses the Vatican of concealing the content of the Third Secret of Fatima. Fr. Gruner was suspended from the exercise of his priesthood in 1996 after refusing to cease his activities and return to the diocese of his incardination.[5] [6][7][8]
    It published numerous articles alleging that the international banking system is run by money-manipulating conspirators (e.g. Helen McClafferty "The Illuminati and Bilderberg Conferences" Hibernian February 2007 pp20–21 _"In 1776 the Illuminati set out to destroy nations and religions, private property and marriage. Today,in 2007, we are now witnessing those acts coming to fruition" and Tommy Price "Money Matters: Abraham Lincoln's greenbacks - Part V in a series on money" - "These external forces were trying to break up the union, so they could have smaller nations of equal power, to play one against the other in the war debt game.. International banking was the hidden power behind these conflicts in Europe... Rothschild agent August Belmont had placed large amounts of Rothschild money into bonds of the state sponsored banks in the South... International banking houses were furious over the issuance of Lincoln's Greenbacks.. Eventually Abraham Lincoln paid the price for the issuance of greenbacks.. killed by John Wilkes Booth, who had links to the Knights of the Golden Circle.. drawing its membership from masonic lodges") and advocating national and personal autarky.[9]
    It has supported distributivism[10].
    An article in the November 2007 issue refers to Cardinal John Henry Newman as a "sourpuss old Brit".[11]
    The final issue (September 2008) announced that the magazine was closing because of restrictions placed on McGeough as a result of his impending prosecution. The issue also includes an Irish-language prayer for the canonisation of Marcel Lefebvre, a profile of Deirdre Manifold (Galway-based author of Fatima and the Great Conspiracy) expounding her view that the Irish are "the Chosen Race of the New Testament", and an article advocating Young Earth creationism. The final article "Is it time to listen to heaven" by Joe O'Brien declares that the fate of the Hibernian shows "you cannot win against naturalism.. on a material level with political rallying, diplomatic maneuvring, or even military force... In order to defeat naturalism we must appeal to supernatural support".


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    « Reply #5 on: September 11, 2012, 05:17:32 PM »
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  • Okay, that helps a little bit.

    I still don't know how to pronounce this guy's name: Gerry McGeough

    Is it Jerry or Gary?

    Is it ma-JYOFF, or mac-JOE, or mij-OCHH with a glottal rattle?


    Is he a national leader with a significant following whom the Brits are afraid
    could become elected to president or something? Are they afraid of a Declaration
    of some kind and the international disgrace they would face by trying to suppress
    it?

    I need some basic answers. Too many gaps. It couldn't just be a magazine.



    Obviously, The Hibernian was problematic for "separation of church and state," but
    since when is that a driving force in the British Isles???



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