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Offline poche

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Re: Frankie doesn't like us much, do he?
« Reply #15 on: June 05, 2019, 11:12:29 PM »
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  • :applause:Are you serious?
    How else could he lead them away? He has to address them first.
    Many years ago there was a certain priest who was called upon to do the local pauper's funerals. He did them for Catholics and he did them for non Catholics who had died also. But the funeral he gave them was a Catholic funeral. He didn't water anything down.

    Offline poche

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    Re: Frankie doesn't like us much, do he?
    « Reply #16 on: June 05, 2019, 11:18:53 PM »
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  • Eh, I think he's questioning the bishop, but I'm willing to bet that he will never come out and condemn Bergoglio.
    I am not questioning the bishop. I think everyone should hear what the Catholic Church teaches.


    Offline Quo vadis Domine

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    Re: Frankie doesn't like us much, do he?
    « Reply #17 on: June 06, 2019, 04:28:11 PM »
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  • How else could he lead them away? He has to address them first.
    Many years ago there was a certain priest who was called upon to do the local pauper's funerals. He did them for Catholics and he did them for non Catholics who had died also. But the funeral he gave them was a Catholic funeral. He didn't water anything down.
    Sorry, I thought you were coming out of your trance.

    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Frankie doesn't like us much, do he?
    « Reply #18 on: June 06, 2019, 04:39:59 PM »
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  • How else could he lead them away? He has to address them first.
    Many years ago there was a certain priest who was called upon to do the local pauper's funerals. He did them for Catholics and he did them for non Catholics who had died also. But the funeral he gave them was a Catholic funeral. He didn't water anything down.

    Never has the Church permitted Catholic funerals for non-Catholics.

    Offline 2Vermont

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    Re: Frankie doesn't like us much, do he?
    « Reply #19 on: June 07, 2019, 04:42:58 AM »
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  • :(
    Heh.  I guess I was wrong.  He wasn't even questioning the bishop ::).  
    "For there is not any thing secret that shall not be made manifest, nor hidden, that shall not be known and come abroad."- Luke 8:17


    Offline poche

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    Re: Frankie doesn't like us much, do he?
    « Reply #20 on: June 07, 2019, 10:50:52 PM »
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  • Heh.  I guess I was wrong.  He wasn't even questioning the bishop ::).  
    I was saying that the bishop should lead them to the Catholic Faith.

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    Re: Frankie doesn't like us much, do he?
    « Reply #21 on: June 08, 2019, 07:27:33 AM »
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  • I was saying that the bishop should lead them to the Catholic Faith.
    So, poche, if the bishop wasn't leading them to the Catholic Faith (and he wasn't), aren't you questioning him (ie. his actions)?
    "For there is not any thing secret that shall not be made manifest, nor hidden, that shall not be known and come abroad."- Luke 8:17

    Offline poche

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    Re: Frankie doesn't like us much, do he?
    « Reply #22 on: June 08, 2019, 11:12:24 PM »
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  • So, poche, if the bishop wasn't leading them to the Catholic Faith (and he wasn't), aren't you questioning him (ie. his actions)?
    I am saying that it is the bishop's job to lead all of the people (Catholics and non Catholics) to the Catholic Faith. His job is to lead them where he finds them.  


    Offline Quo vadis Domine

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    Re: Frankie doesn't like us much, do he?
    « Reply #23 on: June 09, 2019, 05:04:29 AM »
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  • I am saying that it is the bishop's job to lead all of the people (Catholics and non Catholics) to the Catholic Faith. His job is to lead them where he finds them.  
    Why would a Catholic need to be led to the Catholic Faith if he, by definition, already professes the Catholic Faith?

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    Re: Frankie doesn't like us much, do he?
    « Reply #24 on: June 09, 2019, 07:00:14 AM »
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  • I am saying that it is the bishop's job to lead all of the people (Catholics and non Catholics) to the Catholic Faith. His job is to lead them where he finds them.  
    Was he leading the non-Catholics to the Catholic Faith here? If you don't think so, then guess what?  You were questioning the bishop.  It's okay poche.  This is a good thing.  Don't fight it.  Welcome to the real world.  Granted, you have much more to go, but at least you're making the step in the right direction.
    "For there is not any thing secret that shall not be made manifest, nor hidden, that shall not be known and come abroad."- Luke 8:17

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    Re: Frankie doesn't like us much, do he?
    « Reply #25 on: June 09, 2019, 11:20:27 PM »
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  • Why would a Catholic need to be led to the Catholic Faith if he, by definition, already professes the Catholic Faith?
    It is not just Catholics that need to be led to the Catholic Faith. Everybody needs to be led to the Catholic Faith.
    :incense: :incense: :incense: 


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    Re: Frankie doesn't like us much, do he?
    « Reply #26 on: June 10, 2019, 06:13:36 AM »
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  • It is not just Catholics that need to be led to the Catholic Faith. Everybody needs to be led to the Catholic Faith.
    :incense: :incense: :incense:
    Do you know what the word “led”, the past participle of the word lead, means?
    :facepalm:

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    Re: Frankie doesn't like us much, do he?
    « Reply #27 on: June 10, 2019, 08:03:29 AM »
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  • Do you know what the word “led”, the past participle of the word lead, means?
    :facepalm:
    Either way, it is the job of the bishop to lead everybody to the Catholic Faith. 

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    Re: Frankie doesn't like us much, do he?
    « Reply #28 on: June 11, 2019, 01:49:12 PM »
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  • It is not just Catholics that need to be led to the Catholic Faith. Everybody needs to be led to the Catholic Faith.
    :incense: :incense: :incense:

    And what Catholic faith is that poche? Is that the one with Hell or without Hell for the damned?

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    Re: Frankie doesn't like us much, do he?
    « Reply #29 on: June 13, 2019, 11:40:21 PM »
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  • And what Catholic faith is that poche? Is that the one with Hell or without Hell for the damned?
    There is only one Catholic Faith. And I will remind you that St Alphonsus Ligouri said that those who do not believe in the existence of Hell are those mot in danger of going there.

     

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