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Offline PartyIsOver221

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Frankencense is disappearing...
« on: December 21, 2011, 04:20:40 PM »
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  • http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45744432

    Trees that produce frankincense, a fragrant resin used in incense and perfumes and a central part of the Christmas story, are declining so fast that production could be halved over the next 15 years, scientists said on Wednesday. In a study published in the British Ecological Society's Journal of Applied Ecology, ecologists from the Netherlands and Ethiopia looked at large-scale field studies and predicted that tree numbers could decline by 90 percent in the next 50 years.If fire, grazing and insect attack, the most likely causes of decline, remain unchecked, then frankincense production could be doomed altogether, they warned.
     
    Frankincense, best known in religious teachings as one of the gifts laid before the newborn Messiah, is obtained by tapping various species of Boswellia, a small, deciduous tree that grows across Africa from northern Nigeria to the highlands of Ethiopia and Eritrea.Cutting the Boswellia's bark produces the frankincense resin, a white substance with a strong, sweet smell. The resin is burnt in churches, mosques and at ceremonies, as well as being used by the perfume industry and in herbal medicines.
     
    Despite its economic importance, incense has been traded internationally for thousands of years, little is known about how tapping affects Boswellia populations. Working in an isolated part of northwest Ethiopia near the source of the Blue Nile, a research team led by Frans Bongers of Wageningen University in the Netherlands studied 13 two-hectare plots, some where trees were tapped for frankincense and some where they were untapped.Over two years, they monitored survival, growth and seed production of more than 6,000 Boswellia trees and used the data to build mathematical models to predict the fate of Boswellia populations in coming years. The forecasts suggest Boswellia populations are declining so dramatically that frankincense production could be halved in the next 15 years.

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    Offline PartyIsOver221

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    Frankencense is disappearing...
    « Reply #1 on: December 21, 2011, 04:22:35 PM »
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  • Bees dropping off, so no more beeswax candles.

    Animals in general dieing en masse around the world.


    Its setting up slowly for End Times.


    Offline Elizabeth

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    Frankencense is disappearing...
    « Reply #2 on: December 21, 2011, 06:14:48 PM »
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  • That is horrible and I pray they are wrong.

    Frankincense, one of the most noble aromas made by God.

    The bee die-off is horrible also, but I tell myself the bad guys stole them and moved to South America.

    I know we are not supposed to dwell on the End Times, but this type of news makes one go, Hmmm.

    Poor Ethipopia!  :pray: :pray: :pray:

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    Frankencense is disappearing...
    « Reply #3 on: December 22, 2011, 10:35:29 AM »
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  • If it grows across North Africa then I would think it would grow here and in Florida and in some places in the Southwest.

    Sounds like a good long term crop to me!  :cowboy:
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    « Reply #4 on: December 22, 2011, 10:52:34 AM »
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  • Quote from: Catholic Samurai

    If it grows across North Africa then I would think it would grow here and in Florida and in some places in the Southwest.

    Sounds like a good long term crop to me!  :cowboy:


    Not exactly Florida, as it needs a rather dry climate in high altitudes. The problem seems to be the overexploitation, so at least it is not a disease of some sort, which could be worrying.
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    « Reply #5 on: December 22, 2011, 06:35:05 PM »
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  • While this is interesting, are there some lines we should be 'reading in between'? I'm not aware of any private revelation, saints visions, etc that reference such a phenomenon as being a sign of anything.

    Please advise

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    « Reply #6 on: December 24, 2011, 10:09:52 AM »
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  • I actually heard about this on NPR last night, actually a very good story.

    Here's an image of what the trees look like from overharvesting/ pests:


    But there's good news- they're modifying the trees to be able to become more hardy and supposedly bringing the genetically modified trees to the US for growth.

    You can actually buy your own tree from this guy:
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    Jason Eslamieh runs a greenhouse in Arizona. He's tinkering with tougher boswellia trees that can stand up to climate change, and grow in the U.S.

    Jason Eslamieh: With a little bit of care and understanding, one can definitely commercialize frankincense.

    He can sell you a starter plant on eBay.

    Eslamieh: Costs about $55.

    Or a full-grown tree, ready to tap for frankincense. That's $1,500.


    CathSam- You were on to something there eh?!

    Click "HERE" to listen to the story while you browse the web  :smirk:

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    « Reply #7 on: December 24, 2011, 11:33:28 AM »
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  • Where did you read that they were actually genetically modifying the trees?

    It sounds like he's just trying to breed a tougher cultivar.
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    « Reply #8 on: December 24, 2011, 02:49:47 PM »
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  • Thats what I meant to say lol

    Forgive me for the erroneous post.

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    « Reply #9 on: December 25, 2011, 12:39:09 AM »
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  • We should, each of us in each parish, pitch in to buy a 1,500$, ready-to-tap tree for every Trad chapel.

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    « Reply #10 on: December 25, 2011, 12:40:20 AM »
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  • Oh, almost forgot, I read a bit more about this yesterday after posting my question, and the reason doesn't seem conspiratorial, it sounds like there are just vastly more profitable crops to replace them with.