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Title: Francis sickness
Post by: Geremia on May 17, 2014, 09:03:27 PM
Is Francis alright? I heard he was sick. Considering he has only one functioning lung, this could me serious. Oremus pro eum.
Title: Francis sickness
Post by: Geremia on May 17, 2014, 09:11:11 PM
Quote from: CNS
Pope cuts meetings because of cold, need to rest before Holy Land trip

(http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/1402016.htm)By Cindy Wooden
Catholic News Service

VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- Because he has a bit of a cold and wants to rest up for his May 24-26 trip to the Holy Land, Pope Francis has postponed several scheduled appointments.

Jesuit Father Federico Lombardi, the Vatican spokesman, told reporters May 16 that Pope Francis had celebrated his morning Mass that day with guests invited to the Domus Sanctae Marthae where he lives. Vatican Radio's coverage of the morning Mass includes several clips of Pope Francis' homily, delivered in a slightly hoarse voice.

Because he was not feeling well and his agenda included meetings that easily could be postponed, the pope decided to "consolidate his rest" and take the remainder of the day off, Father Lombardi said.

Already May 15, Father Lombardi had announced that the pope decided to postpone a planned May 18 pastoral visit to Rome's parish and Shrine of Our Lady of Divine Love to rest up for his visit to Jordan, Palestine and Israel later in May.

However, the pope kept a packed schedule of meetings with ambassadors and with Mexican bishops making their "ad limina" visits May 15.

When the pope was 21, the upper half of his right lung was removed after cysts caused a severe lung infection. He has said the episode never caused him further health problems.
Title: Francis sickness
Post by: Cantarella on May 17, 2014, 10:43:03 PM
Let's hope he recovers his health but postpones for ever all the visits he has planned in the company of non-Christian leaders. This bad company gives the impression to the world that all religions are equal and undermines the Holy Roman Catholic Church as the only way of possible salvation. It seems that is a calculated step towards the heresy of religious indifferentism. Exactly what the world and the Judeo-Masonic forces that controls it wants to see!
Title: Francis sickness
Post by: crossbro on May 18, 2014, 03:00:34 AM

The damage is already done.

He will be quoted by gays, abortionists, atheists and anyone else out to destroy the Church until the end times.


Title: Francis sickness
Post by: Ladislaus on May 18, 2014, 06:17:58 AM
I saw a story yesterday where he refused the Popemobile for his trip to the Middle East and will be riding out in the open.

I could see him being shot and killed in Jerusalem. ...

and then rising from the dead for the world to see.
Title: Francis sickness
Post by: JezusDeKoning on May 18, 2014, 08:33:40 AM
I have nothing personal against Francis. It's the lack of Catholicism he espouses that I don't like. Hope he gets better.
Title: Francis sickness
Post by: JPaul on May 18, 2014, 10:59:10 AM
Quote from: JezusDeKoning
I have nothing personal against Francis. It's the lack of Catholicism he espouses that I don't like. Hope he gets better.


Certainly it should not be personal on our part, but his un-Catholic behavior and making common cause with his Master's enemies is indeed distressing.
Title: Francis sickness
Post by: crossbro on May 18, 2014, 01:33:08 PM
Quote from: JezusDeKoning
I have nothing personal against Francis. It's the lack of Catholicism he espouses that I don't like. Hope he gets better.


If that does not make it personal for you then pray for your own soul day and night.
Title: Francis sickness
Post by: crossbro on May 18, 2014, 01:35:05 PM
Quote from: Ladislaus
I saw a story yesterday where he refused the Popemobile for his trip to the Middle East and will be riding out in the open.

I could see him being shot and killed in Jerusalem. ...

and then rising from the dead for the world to see.


... and he will be shot by an orthodox jew and everyone will say that is not Judaism... blah blah blah
Title: Francis sickness
Post by: Croix de Fer on May 18, 2014, 01:57:24 PM
Pray for Francis' conversion more than his physical health.
Title: Francis sickness
Post by: Quasimodo on May 18, 2014, 02:45:57 PM
Quote from: crossbro
Quote from: Ladislaus
I saw a story yesterday where he refused the Popemobile for his trip to the Middle East and will be riding out in the open.

I could see him being shot and killed in Jerusalem. ...

and then rising from the dead for the world to see.


... and he will be shot by an orthodox jew and everyone will say that is not Judaism... blah blah blah

Yeah, then everyone will be shouting Santo subito. Then we'd have to hear about the great pope and martyr Francis.
Title: Francis sickness
Post by: Geremia on May 18, 2014, 06:03:34 PM
Quote from: Ladislaus
I saw a story yesterday where he refused the Popemobile for his trip to the Middle East and will be riding out in the open.

I could see him being shot and killed in Jerusalem. ...

and then rising from the dead for the world to see.
Does that have to occur in Jerusalem?
Title: Francis sickness
Post by: Geremia on May 18, 2014, 06:05:57 PM
Quote from: ascent
Pray for Francis' conversion more than his physical health.
Yes, let's pray for his deathbed (or sooner) conversion.
Title: Francis sickness
Post by: crossbro on May 18, 2014, 09:54:10 PM
Quote from: ascent
Pray for Francis' conversion more than his physical health.


If he converts I wonder if it will be enough for all the people he has led astray.

He bears the title of the pope of the rcc afterall.

I feel he will be held accountable to a very high degree for every single utterance he spewls.
Title: Francis sickness
Post by: JezusDeKoning on May 19, 2014, 07:31:02 AM
But going without the Popemobile in the Middle East? Is he daft?

Israel might be the safest place in the Middle East, but all the Christian parts are in the worst places, aka disputed territory where there's loads of infighting.
Title: Francis sickness
Post by: soulguard on May 19, 2014, 12:55:04 PM
"Set thou the sinner over him: and may the devil stand at his right hand.
When he is judged, may he go out condemned; and may his prayer be turned to sin.
May his days be few: and his bishopric let another take."
[ Psalm 108:6-8 ]
So be it So be it.
Title: Francis sickness
Post by: Geremia on May 19, 2014, 01:03:08 PM
Quote from: soulguard
"Set thou the sinner over him: and may the devil stand at his right hand.
When he is judged, may he go out condemned; and may his prayer be turned to sin.
May his days be few: and his bishopric let another take."
[ Psalm 108:6-8 ]
So be it So be it.
St. Francis de Sales quotes that in his The Catholic Controversy p. 306 (https://archive.org/stream/catholiccontrove00sain#page/306/mode/2up), where he thinks Honorius might have been a heretic and says that when a pope
Quote from: St. Francis de Sales
is explicitly a heretic, he falls ipso facto from his dignity and out of the Church, and the Church must either deprive him, or, as some say, declare him deprived, of his Apostolic See, and must say as S. Peter did: Let another take his bishopric [St. Paul quoting that Psalm in Acts 1]
Title: Francis sickness
Post by: Neil Obstat on May 19, 2014, 01:58:28 PM
.

According to the released notes on the Third Secret of Fatima, a bishop in white will be climbing a hill, stepping over the corpses of his brethren who have fallen in a half-ruined city, only to be shot by soldiers with bullets and arrows as he falls before a rough cross as if it were made from corkwood.

What kind of soldiers are they who use both guns and archery bows?

.
Title: Francis sickness
Post by: Ladislaus on May 19, 2014, 02:02:26 PM
Quote from: JezusDeKoning
But going without the Popemobile in the Middle East? Is he daft?


I really think that he's just so convinced of his own humbleness and amiability that he thinks "Who could possibly think about attacking someone like moi?"

Seriously, it just takes one nutjob with an ideological obsession (or even obsession with Jodie Foster), and we know that there aren't any of those in Israel.

Title: Francis sickness
Post by: Ladislaus on May 19, 2014, 02:05:25 PM
Quote from: crossbro
... and he will be shot by an orthodox jew and everyone will say that is not Judaism... blah blah blah


Nah, they'll pin it on some Muslim as a false flag.
Title: Francis sickness
Post by: Ladislaus on May 19, 2014, 02:07:10 PM
Here's the article:

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/mideast/pope-francis-shun-popemobile-mideast-trip-vatican-n106166
Title: Francis sickness
Post by: 2Vermont on May 19, 2014, 02:12:20 PM
More humility right?
Title: Francis sickness
Post by: MyrnaM on May 19, 2014, 02:25:44 PM
“Do you wish to rise?  Begin by descending.  You plan a tower
that will pierce the clouds?  Lay first the foundation of humility”.

St. Augustine
Title: Francis sickness
Post by: poche on May 22, 2014, 04:47:39 AM
Quote from: Ladislaus
I saw a story yesterday where he refused the Popemobile for his trip to the Middle East and will be riding out in the open.

I could see him being shot and killed in Jerusalem. ...

and then rising from the dead for the world to see.

If he does that maybe you should follow him.
Title: Francis sickness
Post by: poche on May 22, 2014, 04:54:23 AM
Quote from: J.Paul
Quote from: JezusDeKoning
I have nothing personal against Francis. It's the lack of Catholicism he espouses that I don't like. Hope he gets better.


Certainly it should not be personal on our part, but his un-Catholic behavior and making common cause with his Master's enemies is indeed distressing.

Making common cause is a tool of evangelization. Pope Pius XII did that during World War II and the chief rabbi of Rome converted to the Catholic Faith.
 :cool: :cool: :cool:
Title: Francis sickness
Post by: poche on May 22, 2014, 04:59:53 AM
Quote from: Quasimodo
Quote from: crossbro
Quote from: Ladislaus
I saw a story yesterday where he refused the Popemobile for his trip to the Middle East and will be riding out in the open.

I could see him being shot and killed in Jerusalem. ...

and then rising from the dead for the world to see.


... and he will be shot by an orthodox jew and everyone will say that is not Judaism... blah blah blah

Yeah, then everyone will be shouting Santo subito. Then we'd have to hear about the great pope and martyr Francis.

If you die for the Catholic Faith that's what you are, a martyr.  
Title: Francis sickness
Post by: poche on May 22, 2014, 05:02:35 AM
 :pray: :pray: :pray:
Title: Francis sickness
Post by: Quasimodo on May 22, 2014, 05:17:01 AM
Quote from: poche
Quote from: Quasimodo
Quote from: crossbro
Quote from: Ladislaus
I saw a story yesterday where he refused the Popemobile for his trip to the Middle East and will be riding out in the open.

I could see him being shot and killed in Jerusalem. ...

and then rising from the dead for the world to see.


... and he will be shot by an orthodox jew and everyone will say that is not Judaism... blah blah blah

Yeah, then everyone will be shouting Santo subito. Then we'd have to hear about the great pope and martyr Francis.

If you die for the Catholic Faith that's what you are, a martyr.  

Francis doesn't have the Catholic Faith.
Title: Francis sickness
Post by: soulguard on May 22, 2014, 07:15:29 AM
Quote from: Quasimodo
Quote from: poche
Quote from: Quasimodo
Quote from: crossbro
Quote from: Ladislaus
I saw a story yesterday where he refused the Popemobile for his trip to the Middle East and will be riding out in the open.

I could see him being shot and killed in Jerusalem. ...

and then rising from the dead for the world to see.


... and he will be shot by an orthodox jew and everyone will say that is not Judaism... blah blah blah

Yeah, then everyone will be shouting Santo subito. Then we'd have to hear about the great pope and martyr Francis.

If you die for the Catholic Faith that's what you are, a martyr.  

Francis doesn't have the Catholic Faith.

True dat.
Title: Francis sickness
Post by: Neil Obstat on May 22, 2014, 08:19:48 AM
Quote from: Quasimodo
Quote from: poche
Quote from: Quasimodo
Quote from: crossbro
Quote from: Ladislaus
I saw a story yesterday where he refused the Popemobile for his trip to the Middle East and will be riding out in the open.

I could see him being shot and killed in Jerusalem. ...

and then rising from the dead for the world to see.


... and he will be shot by an orthodox jew and everyone will say that is not Judaism... blah blah blah

Yeah, then everyone will be shouting Santo subito. Then we'd have to hear about the great pope and martyr Francis.

If you die for the Catholic Faith that's what you are, a martyr.  

Francis doesn't have the Catholic Faith.


Maybe he can convert -- just in time to be martyred.  

If we all pray for his conversion, why would such a result not be possible?  

"Everything is possible with God"
(Matt. xix. 26).


.
Title: Francis sickness
Post by: 62myer on May 23, 2014, 11:33:44 PM
Quote from: Geremia
Is Francis alright? I heard he was sick. Considering he has only one functioning lung, this could me serious. Oremus pro eum.




good post. IF francis IS the last pope/false prophet -- give him 5 more years until he is thrown into the lake of Fire.
Title: Francis sickness
Post by: 62myer on May 23, 2014, 11:35:54 PM
Quote from: Neil Obstat
Quote from: Quasimodo
Quote from: poche
Quote from: Quasimodo
Quote from: crossbro
Quote from: Ladislaus
I saw a story yesterday where he refused the Popemobile for his trip to the Middle East and will be riding out in the open.

I could see him being shot and killed in Jerusalem. ...

and then rising from the dead for the world to see.


... and he will be shot by an orthodox jew and everyone will say that is not Judaism... blah blah blah

Yeah, then everyone will be shouting Santo subito. Then we'd have to hear about the great pope and martyr Francis.

If you die for the Catholic Faith that's what you are, a martyr.  

Francis doesn't have the Catholic Faith.


Maybe he can convert -- just in time to be martyred.  

If we all pray for his conversion, why would such a result not be possible?  

"Everything is possible with God"
(Matt. xix. 26).


.




It is over, my friend. what appears to be the RCC is finished.
Title: Francis sickness
Post by: soulguard on May 24, 2014, 12:10:24 AM
62myer...

Youre not serious about this are you?
I mean, it is plainly obvious that you are wrong. But you wont listen to correction from real Catholics...

If you want to be a saint, you must abjure all cults not of the church.
A man who pretends to be pope, who has a cult, is not the church.
By joining him you SEPARATE YOURSELF FROM ALL OTHER CATHOLICS.

Also.
I know that you fall into mortal sin on a regular basis.
You will never overcome sin unless you give yourself to prayer and penance.

You dont have what it takes to be a priest. I mean you dont have the faith.
You are probably "bitdudex" who posted here a while ago, and for making a double account you deserve TO BE BAN. However my words still stand.

You fraud.
 :heretic:
Title: Francis sickness
Post by: poche on May 24, 2014, 12:12:35 AM
Quote from: 62myer
Quote from: Neil Obstat
Quote from: Quasimodo
Quote from: poche
Quote from: Quasimodo
Quote from: crossbro
Quote from: Ladislaus
I saw a story yesterday where he refused the Popemobile for his trip to the Middle East and will be riding out in the open.

I could see him being shot and killed in Jerusalem. ...

and then rising from the dead for the world to see.


... and he will be shot by an orthodox jew and everyone will say that is not Judaism... blah blah blah

Yeah, then everyone will be shouting Santo subito. Then we'd have to hear about the great pope and martyr Francis.

If you die for the Catholic Faith that's what you are, a martyr.  

Francis doesn't have the Catholic Faith.


Maybe he can convert -- just in time to be martyred.  

If we all pray for his conversion, why would such a result not be possible?  

"Everything is possible with God"
(Matt. xix. 26).


.




It is over, my friend. what appears to be the RCC is finished.

And Jesus said, "And behold, I am with you always, until the end of the age."
Matt 28:20
Title: Francis sickness
Post by: soulguard on May 24, 2014, 12:17:03 AM
62myer is "bitdudex" :whistleblower:

 :heretic: :tinfoil:

 :pop:
Title: Francis sickness
Post by: Anthony Benedict on May 24, 2014, 12:17:28 AM
Myer, after your recent farewell tour extravaganza, including emetic allusions concerning the membership here, one would have thought that by now you and your honey had already boarded a Greyhound, ukuleles in hand, and were halfway to the "papal" barnyard in Kansas.

And yet, we find you still here?
Title: Francis sickness
Post by: soulguard on May 24, 2014, 12:22:17 AM
Quote from: Anthony Benedict
Myer, after your recent farewell tour extravaganza, including emetic allusions concerning the membership here, one would have thought that by now you and your honey had already boarded a Greyhound, ukuleles in hand, and were halfway to the "papal" barnyard in Kansas.

And yet, we find you still here?


It is bitdudex anto, The kid wants to know the faith, but he is immature, and still dominated by the ideas of the world. He is playing with us, convinced he is making fun of us, and other times convinced he is making friends. He needs to grow up and in a few years time start going to a traditional group like the SSPX or CMRI or SSPV.

but right now his television and his girlfriend do the thinking for him.
he has retarded himself.
 :cheers:
Title: Francis sickness
Post by: poche on May 24, 2014, 01:07:26 AM
Quote from: Anthony Benedict
Myer, after your recent farewell tour extravaganza, including emetic allusions concerning the membership here, one would have thought that by now you and your honey had already boarded a Greyhound, ukuleles in hand, and were halfway to the "papal" barnyard in Kansas.

And yet, we find you still here?

Isn't he concerned that he might anger Pope Michael by coming back here?
Title: Francis sickness
Post by: Charlemagne on May 24, 2014, 01:15:32 AM
Quote from: poche
Quote from: Anthony Benedict
Myer, after your recent farewell tour extravaganza, including emetic allusions concerning the membership here, one would have thought that by now you and your honey had already boarded a Greyhound, ukuleles in hand, and were halfway to the "papal" barnyard in Kansas.

And yet, we find you still here?

Isn't he concerned that he might anger Pope Michael by coming back here?


Yeah, he'd better be careful or Pope Bawden will make him clean the hayloft as a form of penance.
Title: Francis sickness
Post by: Geremia on May 27, 2014, 10:03:51 AM
He didn't look too well here (yesterday):  :sad:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/embed/zEw0Sa3fi1I[/youtube]
Title: Francis sickness
Post by: Geremia on August 01, 2014, 04:34:51 PM
The Pope’s recent absences raise questions about his health (http://www.dici.org/en/news/the-popes-recent-absences-raise-questions-about-his-health/)

     1-08-2014    
 Filed under From Rome (http://www.dici.org/en/category/news/from-rome/), News (http://www.dici.org/en/category/news/)

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On July 13, 2014, following the last-minute cancellation of his visit to Gemelli Hospital in Rome that had been scheduled for June 27, Pope Francis sent a video message apologizing to the patients and staff of that institution.  The Supreme Pontiff mentions a bad headache and nausea that came over him a few minutes before his departure for Gemelli Hospital, on the afternoon of June 27.  The cancellation had been communicated at the very hour of his expected arrival, when his collaborators and all the participants in the Mass that he was supposed to celebrate were already on site.  This new cancellation of a public appointment of the Pope had raised numerous questions about the state of his health;  some observers even doubt the real reasons for his absence.  Previously a visit to the Shrine of Divine Love near Rome, planned for May 18, had to be canceled, in order to lighten the Pope’s schedule before his journey to the Holy Land.  The cost of these receptions that were not honored by the presence of the Pope made more than one observer wince:  between 140 and 150,000 Euros for the one at Gemelli Hospital;  almost 200,000 Euros for the one at the Shrine of Divine Love.  Perhaps this very specific fact is what prompted the Pope to apologize to the patients and staff at Gemelli?

On June 16, the American Catholic website Newsmax wondered about the state of the Supreme Pontiff’s health;  (the remarks were excerpted by Dr. Jean-Pierre Dickès in a French-language report for Médias-Presse-Info dated June 19):  “Apparently the Pope has increasing difficulty breathing, since he has only one lung.  Now, because of his new duties, he can no longer exercise;  hence he has gained as much as twenty pounds, thus aggravating his respiratory problems.  Dr. Peter Hibberd, medical advisor to Newsmax, warned:  ‘Francis may be slipping into a form of chronic heart failure common among victims of significant lung disorders such as COPD.’  ‘I have the impression that something is wrong,’ explained Dr. Liu Ming, a Chinese Taoist doctor who claims to have helped cure the future Pope from heart and liver problems.  Finally, the Pope’s personal physician in Argentina had said he was ‘concerned’ about his patient’s health.”

In the June 29 issue of the Italian daily newspaper Libero, journalist Antonio Mastino published an article entitled “The Soap Opera of the Pope’s Health”.  Here are a few excerpts translated from the version posted in French at the website Benoît et moi:  “… But what are the reasons that led the Pope of ‘mercy’ to cancel his meeting with the sick ‘at the last minute’?  ‘A mild indisposition,’ they said immediately at the Casa Santa Marta;  but then another impromptu justification arrived, which partially contradicted the first, stating that he was only ‘very tired’.  Excuse me?  Either health or fatigue.  Which is it?  To judge by the annoyance of the director of the Gemelli Hospita, Maurizio Guizzardi, everything leads us to think that in his hearing someone proposed the first hypothesis.  This is the opinion of the prelate of the papal household.”  (Translator’s note:  This was Monsignor Marini, to whom a journalist posed the question, “What is going on?” and who replied “If you yourselves don’t know….”).

“As for his health, just recently a Vaticanist who is at home at the Casa Santa Marta (Editor’s note:  probably Andrea Tornielli, Vaticanist for La Stampa, who is very close to Francis), an extremely faithful member of Bergoglio’s circle, declared that the Pope ‘is very well;  those who say that he is ill wish it were so….’   Anyway, Pope Francis is not new to these last-minute absences.  Exactly one year ago, when the musicians were already set up for their concert ‘in honor of the Pope’ in Paul VI Hall, Francis, caring about nothing and no one, announced that he was not ‘a Renaissance prince’, and therefore concerts did not interest him, and he would skip it without even a note of apology.  The musicians who had prepared for months in order to give the Pontiff evidence of their artistry played to an emblematically empty chair.  Last February, another unexpected ‘mild indisposition’ caused him to skip ‘at the last minute’ the traditional annual meeting of the Pope with the students of the Roman Seminary, ‘the Pope’s seminary’, a meeting which, from time immemorial, no pope has ever missed.  The Roman seminarians were disappointed.

“But what do these unexpected absences of Francis mean?  A partial answer is found in a book-length interview from his time in Buenos Aires, in which these ‘last-minute’ program changes were familiar.  (Translator’s note:  It is a shame that Antonio Mastino does not cite the title.)  The cardinal himself explained that ‘when I do not want to do something, to meet someone, I say that I am unwell:  I like to meet whom I want, when I want.’  In practice his ‘mild indispositions’ are to be traced back to the variable humors, and perhaps to the sympathies and antipathies of Bergoglio.  And indeed, another detail is obvious:  this time again, Cardinal Angelo Scola, his direct rival at the conclave, is the one who suffers the consequences of Bergoglio’s ‘mild indispositions’.  Twice already last year, after he had obtained an audience with Francis, ‘at the last minute’ he had someone tell him that he had ‘a mild indisposition’.  An indisposition that some people by now think concerns Scola….  But the question remains:  How is Francis doing?  We have seen him remain until noon at his audiences with the faithful in excellent shape, just like the other times when he had called off meetings with Scola and others because of ‘unexpected indispositions’.  The latest unofficial news about him goes back to a few minutes after his boycott of the Gemelli Hospital:  he was strolling in the Vatican Gardens, chatting with some prelate from his entourage.  At the Casa Santa Marta, they hasten to say that the Pope’s visit to Gemelli was not canceled but simply ‘postponed’.  Who knows.  Meanwhile, the soap opera continues.”

(Sources:  Apic/IMedia/Libero/benoitetmoi – DICI no. 299 dated August 1, 2014)
Title: Francis sickness
Post by: BTNYC on August 01, 2014, 07:43:07 PM
Quote from: Geremia
Dr. Liu Ming, a Chinese Taoist doctor who claims to have helped cure the future Pope from heart and liver problems.


100 years ago this month, Pope St Pius X passed into Eternity. Somehow, I doubt there were any "Taoist doctors" by his side.

The Lord's Will be done.