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Offline Nishant Xavier

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Re: Francis Kneels down and kisses..!!!!
« Reply #60 on: April 17, 2019, 04:24:11 AM »
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    • Quote from: klasG4e on April 15, 2019, 10:12:31 AM
    If Francis really wanted true peace query as to why he doesn't simply consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary?  I wish that was a huge above the fold banner headline screaming across all of Rome's newspapers!  It could read: "DO YOU REALLY WANT PEACE FRANCIS?  CONSECRATE RUSSIA!"
    Absolutely 100% right. It's that simple. God and Our Mother have given His Pope and His Bishops the simple and unfailingly efficacious way from Heaven to bring peace to the world, the conversion of nations, and the triumph of the Catholic Church. Until they do it, we will continue to suffer.

    Well, as Our Lord Jesus has taught us, let us prepare for the crucifixion before the resurrection, for the dark night of sorrow before the victory on the morning of the Resurrection. Let us accompany Christ in His Sorrows this Holy Week, and try to obtain from Him the graces for the Pope and the Bishops to do their duty.
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    "We wish also to make amends for the insults to which Your Vicar on earth and Your Priests are everywhere subjected [above all by schismatic sedevacantists - Nishant Xavier], for the profanation, by conscious neglect or Terrible Acts of Sacrilege, of the very Sacrament of Your Divine Love; and lastly for the Public Crimes of Nations who resist the Rights and The Teaching Authority of the Church which You have founded." - Act of Reparation to the Sacred Heart of Lord Jesus.

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    Re: Francis Kneels down and kisses..!!!!
    « Reply #61 on: April 17, 2019, 12:49:26 PM »
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    • Quote from: X on April 12, 2019, 06:52:22 AM
    Too bad he didn’t pull his foot away at the last second, as Francis recently did to those who tried to kiss his ring.

    Disgraceful.

    I agree. It is disgraceful. 
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    Re: Francis Kneels down and kisses..!!!!
    « Reply #62 on: April 17, 2019, 11:04:19 PM »
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    • Quote from: Nadir on April 17, 2019, 03:48:19 AM
    Did Trump kiss Kim Il Jong's feet?
    Just speaking to that dictator was a condescension. 
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    « Reply #63 on: April 18, 2019, 10:45:29 AM »
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    • Quote from: Your Friend Colin on April 12, 2019, 12:08:35 PM
    Maybe he just has a foot fetish.
    Yes, sex slaves are obsessed with kissing the feet of their master(s)’.  It is sɛҳuąƖ perversion. 
    One can promote acts of peace and humility without the feet kissing.  
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    Re: Francis Kneels down and kisses..!!!!
    « Reply #64 on: April 18, 2019, 10:48:42 AM »
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    • Jesus washed the apostles’ feet.   He didn’t kiss their feet.  Judas did betray Jesus with a kiss. 
    However, a woman did kiss the feet of Jesus out of love and submission to our Lord.   


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    Re: Francis Kneels down and kisses..!!!!
    « Reply #65 on: April 18, 2019, 01:52:11 PM »
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    • Quote from: poche on April 13, 2019, 11:23:42 PM
    It is from the example of Jesus. Jesus washed the feet of the apostles in order to show them what it means to be in authority. He is asking these leaders to be interested in peace and the overall well being of their countries rather than their own selfish interests.  
    I logged in just to give this a down vote.  Is there something wrong with you?  Don't be a fool.  What Francis did is indefensible.    Maybe he ought to make the same effort when it comes to kneeling before Our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament instead of making excuses that he has a bad knee. Or whatever it is he says is the reason why he can't make the puny required genuflections in the novus ordo mess.
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    Re: Francis Kneels down and kisses..!!!!
    « Reply #66 on: April 18, 2019, 02:25:53 PM »
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    • Quote from: Alexandria on April 18, 2019, 01:52:11 PM
    I logged in just to give this a down vote.  Is there something wrong with you?  Don't be a fool.  What Francis did is indefensible.    Maybe he ought to make the same effort when it comes to kneeling before Our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament instead of making excuses that he has a bad knee. Or whatever it is he says is the reason why he can't make the puny required genuflections in the novus ordo mess.

    I logged in just to give your post a thumbs up.
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    Re: Francis Kneels down and kisses..!!!!
    « Reply #67 on: April 18, 2019, 02:35:26 PM »
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    • Quote from: Alexandria on April 18, 2019, 01:52:11 PM
    I logged in just to give this a down vote.  Is there something wrong with you?  Don't be a fool.  What Francis did is indefensible.    Maybe he ought to make the same effort when it comes to kneeling before Our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament instead of making excuses that he has a bad knee. Or whatever it is he says is the reason why he can't make the puny required genuflections in the novus ordo mess.
    He could lie down and kiss the ground in front of the Altar if he really is somehow incapable of genuflecting. But no, we couldn't expect him to show the same respect to the Blessed Sacrament as he to shows heathen dictators.
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    Re: Francis Kneels down and kisses..!!!!
    « Reply #68 on: April 18, 2019, 10:50:59 PM »
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    • Quote from: Alexandria on April 18, 2019, 01:52:11 PM
    I logged in just to give this a down vote.  Is there something wrong with you?  Don't be a fool.  What Francis did is indefensible.    Maybe he ought to make the same effort when it comes to kneeling before Our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament instead of making excuses that he has a bad knee. Or whatever it is he says is the reason why he can't make the puny required genuflections in the novus ordo mess.
    St Malachy's sister used to criticize him for following the caskets of the poor to the grave. Then after she died she spent a long time in Purgatory for her lack of compassion for the poor. Pope Francis made this gesture that the leaders of this poor country who had been feuding would come to an agreement and live in peace.
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    Re: Francis Kneels down and kisses..!!!!
    « Reply #69 on: April 18, 2019, 10:54:54 PM »
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    • Quote from: poche on April 18, 2019, 10:50:59 PM
     Pope Francis made this gesture that the leaders of this poor country who had been feuding would come to an agreement and live in peace.
    How does kissing people's feet accomplish that? It's an act of submission!
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    « Reply #70 on: April 18, 2019, 11:45:18 PM »
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    « Reply #71 on: April 18, 2019, 11:46:06 PM »
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    • Muslim converts to Pope Francis: ‘If Islam is a good religion…as you seem to teach, why did we become Catholic?’
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    « Reply #72 on: April 19, 2019, 12:40:31 AM »
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    • Apr 18 at 11:39pm
    HOLY WEEK 2019: the Church is burning

    Why did the fire of Notre Dame Cathedral generate such enormous shock all over the world? Because apart from the intrinsic value of the monument, Notre Dame is a symbol. It was written everywhere: a symbol of Christianity, a symbol of Western conscience, a symbol of a collective cultural patrimony, a symbol of European identity, a symbol of French national history.

    We live in a world that has lost the value of logic, but the power of symbols is still extraordinary, given that symbols are used by the mass-media system to create emotional-reactions, often replacing the role of reason. There are in fact two ways of arriving at the truth: one through reason, the other through symbols. But the two ways are complementary, not alternative. Jesus, for example, uses the language of symbols, but also convincing logic. Rational language is founded on the principal of non-contradiction, whereas symbolic language is based on images and visible signs referring to an invisible reality. A symbol renders immediately comprehensible that which is veiled to the eyes of reason. Logic helps to decipher the language of symbols. Everything our senses experience has a significance and leads to the invisible, of which it is a reflex and imitation.

    In the case of the Notre Dame fire, everyone perceived the symbolic value of the wounded cathedral, but few have sought to understand the symbolic significance of what happened. Notre Dame, like all cathedrals, represents the Catholic Church in its architectural impetus towards Heaven. How not to see in the smoke and flames that enveloped it on April 15th, the image of the smoke and flames enveloping the Church of Christ? As far back as 1972, Paul VI spoke of the “smoke of Satan” penetrating the Temple of God. This smoke today is the result of a fire that ravaged  the Church, until it carbonized the very top.  Might it not be possible to see in the collapse of the fleche - Notre Dame’s tall spire - the fall of the pinnacle of the Church?

    At this time, another symbolic image overlaps that of the Notre Dame blaze: a scene with Pope Francis, Vicar of Christ, kissing the feet of three Sudanese Muslim leaders, asking them “to extinguish the fires of war once and for all.” This happened on April 11th at the end of a spiritual retreat in the Vatican, conceived by the (schismatic) Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby. Immediately afterwards, on the first day of Holy Week, the French cathedral – the most famous and most visited in the world after St. Peter’s – was consumed by flames.

    In the world of those faithful to Tradition, there is an ongoing discussion, at times heated [in the attempt] to establish whether this or that verbal expression by Pope Francis can be considered heretical. But this theological and canonical investigation risks staying abstract and ignoring the language of gestures, which expresses in a direct manner a reality that every baptized person who has kept his sensus fidei can easily discern. Well then, rarely has the Church been humiliated by gestures like the one made by Pope Francis prostrated at the feet of political and other religious leaders. Francis is in fact, the Vicar on Earth of the King of Kings, to Whom everyone owes homage. There can never be any true peace outside the Truth proclaimed by He Who is the only Prince of Peace. His dominion embraces all men, as Pope Pius XI reminds us of in his encyclical Quas Primas, of December 11th 1925, citing the words of his predecessor Leo XIII:

    “The empire of Christ extends not only over Catholic nations and those who, having been duly washed in the waters of holy baptism, belong of right to the Church, although erroneous opinions keep them astray, or dissent from her teaching cuts them off from her care; it comprises also all those who are deprived of the Christian faith, so that the whole human race is most truly under the power of Jesus Christ(Enc. Annum Sacrum, del 25 May 1899.  Pius XI adds:  “If the kingdom of Christ, then, receives, as it should, all nations under its way, there seems no reason why should we despair of seeing that peace which the King of Peace came to bring on earth - He who came to reconcile all things, who came not to be ministered unto but to minister?”

    On April 11th Jesus Christ was humiliated by His Vicar, with an act just as symbolic as the fire on April 15th.  In the tragedy of the blaze, Divine Providence did not allow the Holy Crown of Thorns to be destroyed, redeemed at great cost by St. Louis, who in 1239, wearing only a linen tunic, and barefoot, welcomed it to Paris and carried it in procession. To safeguard this relic the Sovereign commissioned the building of Sainte Chapelle, an outstanding Jєωel of Gothic art.  We must be grateful to the firefighter’s Chaplain, Father Fournier, who, defying danger, managed to save the Holy Species and the Crown of Thorns.*

    Jesus, after being scourged, insulted and besmirched with spit, was forced to wear a purple garment; a crown of thorns was thrust on His head, and, in His right hand, in the place of a scepter, a cane, to signify that His was a sham Kingdom. Then His executioners knelt in front of Him and adored Him in mockery, saying Ave Rex Judaeorum (Mt 27, 28-29). The Lord then came out in plain sight of everyone, dressed in purple, crowned with thorns: portans coronam spineam et purpureum vestimentum (John 19, 5) and Pilate showed Him to the people, with the words: Ecce Homo: Behold the Man. The Prefect of the Praetorium, spoke unknowingly through the mouth of the Holy Spirit, Who was saying: He appears to be merely a Man, but He is the Son of God, the Messiah, promised by the law, the King of men and Angels, the Saviour of the human race.

    In the same way, in this age of Passion we live in, the words Ecce Ecclesia seem to resound: behold the Bride of Christ, the only depositary of the means of Salvation, the Queen of Peace, the Teacher of men, the Kingdom, whose keys have been entrusted to Peter. Behold Holy Church, covered in sores, disfigured, defiled. How is possible that She be treated this way? Moved by sorrow and indignation, we adore the Church, directing our veneration in particular to the adorable relic of the Crown of Thorns.

    In medieval cathedrals, like Notre Dame, the demons were represented under the form of grotesque and deformed sculptures, on the exterior of the church, which the wicked spirits cannot enter into. When flares of fire inside the temple of God, replace the pure light of the stained-glass, it means that hell has entered. “The Fires of Hell in Notre Dame”, was a headline on the front page of the German newspaper Bild of April 16th.

    The words of St. Louis Maria Grignion de Montfort, in the entreaty of his Inflamed Prayer, resound prophetically. “Fire! Fire! Fire! Help! Help! Help! There is fire in the house of God! There is fire in souls! There is fire even in the sanctuary!”  But just as vibrantly the Saint’s final invocation resounds in our hearts, on this Easter Eve: “Exsurge, Domine, quare abdormis? Rise Lord! Why are you pretending to sleep? Rise with all Your omnipotence, mercy and justice. Form a company of bodyguards chosen to protect Your House, defend Your Glory and save souls, so that there is only one sheepfold and one Shepherd, and all may glorify You in Your Temple. Et in templo ejus omnes dicent gloriam. Amen.”
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    Re: Francis Kneels down and kisses..!!!!
    « Reply #73 on: April 19, 2019, 03:58:33 AM »
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    • Quote from: poche on April 17, 2019, 11:04:19 PM
    Just speaking to that dictator was a condescension.
    Perhaps he should kiss his toes.
    I mean, that's a real sign you want peace and safety for the poor of his country.
    Better yet, send Francis.
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    « Reply #74 on: April 19, 2019, 04:01:12 AM »
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    • Quote from: Your Friend Colin on April 18, 2019, 10:54:54 PM
    How does kissing people's feet accomplish that? It's an act of submission!
    I was curious why Jesus never kissed Pilate or Herod's feet during the passion.
    You know, to keep the peace and protect the poor and all that.
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