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Offline Meg

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Re: Jan Hus and Hussites...
« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2019, 06:49:28 PM »
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  • I admit that the gray part was somehow off-topic and not much wise. The talk about Jan Hus was partly important...

    In what sense do you mean it is a "nonsense" ?

    This is a vicious lie or rather a slander by rabbi Louis Israel Newman. There was nothing judaizing about husites. Husites were christians, followers of Jesus Christ, and among main of their struggles was a dual communion, bread and wine as body and blood of Christ, as it is written in gospels, which is why they had a chalice on their flags. (An american jew is not a relevant authority on our national movement...)

    Jan Hus did not endorse the husite looting at all, he died four or five years before these wars started. And he was only remotely related to Wycliffe, but many of his doctrines were different...

    Synagogue of Satan, the US jews, may boast of what they like, but it is just not true...
    Or otherwise, even you as Catholics are influenced by Old Testament, aren't you?

    Jan Hus was no hero, and he certainly isn't a saint. And his death is not conclusive proof of the fallibility of Councils, as you previously wrote.

    The Church has a right to make sure that errors are not promoted by heretics. This is done for the greater good. Obviously, this isn't the case anymore, since error is rarely condemned now.

    Which church was it that apologized for his death? Do you mean the wimpy conciliar church?

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    Re: Jan Hus and Hussites...
    « Reply #16 on: September 10, 2019, 06:57:41 PM »
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  • Jan Hus was no hero, and he certainly isn't a saint. And his death is not conclusive proof of the fallibility of Councils, as you previously wrote.

    The Church has a right to make sure that errors are not promoted by heretics. This is done for the greater good. Obviously, this isn't the case anymore, since error is rarely condemned now.

    Which church was it that apologized for his death? Do you mean the wimpy conciliar church?

    To which I would like to add....why are you posting this information on this forum? Is it to rile people up? Surely you already know that your views are not going to be well-received here.


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    Re: Francis: “it’s an honor that Americans attack me”
    « Reply #17 on: September 10, 2019, 07:07:15 PM »
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  • Contemporaneous Jews in Bohemia regarded the Hussites, especially the radicals Taborites, as Jews-- or at least as the closest thing. They sang hymns reserved for Jewish martyrs commemorating them, if I recall correctly
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    Re: Jan Hus and Hussites...
    « Reply #18 on: September 10, 2019, 07:20:07 PM »
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  • I admit that the gray part was somehow off-topic and not much wise. The talk about Jan Hus was partly important...

    In what sense do you mean it is a "nonsense" ?

    This is a vicious lie or rather a slander by rabbi Louis Israel Newman. There was nothing judaizing about husites. Husites were christians, followers of Jesus Christ, and among main of their struggles was a dual communion, bread and wine as body and blood of Christ, as it is written in gospels, which is why they had a chalice on their flags. (An american jew is not a relevant authority on our national movement...)

    Jan Hus did not endorse the husite looting at all, he died four or five years before these wars started. And he was only remotely related to Wycliffe, but many of his doctrines were different...

    Synagogue of Satan, the US jews, may boast of what they like, but it is just not true...
    Or otherwise, even you as Catholics are influenced by Old Testament, aren't you?

    I nominate you to contest against Fran Taubman (a troll that infests unz.com) for the title of "most lies in so few words."

    Následujete Jana Husa do věčného ohně.

    I already cited the core of Wycliffe, Hus, and Hussite Judaizing—a reversion to the superseded Old Testament model of Israel, a type of nationalist slaughter that, inspired by Hus' agitation of the peasantry while in exile (e.g., his Manifesto of 1412) began before Hus' death and reached foul Taborite nadir after his death.

    Hus doesn't need Rabbi Newman because Hus damned himself with his own words from that Manifesto:


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    Let us stand in battle line with our head, Master Hus, and our leader, Master Jerome [of Prague, who continued Hussite agitprop in Prague after Hus' exile], and whoever will be a Christian, let him turn to us. Let everyone gird on his sword, let brother not spare brother. nor father spare son, nor son father, nor neighbor spare neighbor…all should kill so that we can make our hands holy in blood of the accursed ones, as Moses shows us in his books, for what is written there is an example to us.


    "Christian"? No more Christian than "Christian" Zionists.

    "remotely related to Wycliffe"?  As early as A.D. 1390 Hus was a damned scribe for Wycliffe.

    Jews provide some of the most damning evidence against themselves—in this case, Rabbi Newman provides 706 pages dense with evidence that the Synagogue of Satan instigated and/or abetted every major heresy, including the Hussite heresy.

    As Catholics, the Old Testament is ours, The Church is Israel, the only Israel today, and there is a New Covenant that has superseded the Mosaic Covenant and Mosaic Law, “made void,” “blotted out,” “set aside,” “taken away.” With the authority that God gave Peter and his successors, the Church, not Hus or Hussites, decides what from the Old Testament is incorporated into the New Law.  For the record, the Church did not adopt your and Hus' Judaizing vision of the "holy nation."


    Offline Mark 79

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    Re: Francis: “it’s an honor that Americans attack me”
    « Reply #19 on: September 10, 2019, 07:39:10 PM »
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  • Sent to Matthew:


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    I'll try not to make this a habit.

    https://www.cathinfo.com/profile/?area=showposts;u=6598


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    Hello everyone.

    Although baptized as Catholic, I'm now an Ecumenical Christian philosopher, believing that most branches on the Tree of the Church are beneficial for the good of Humanity and the glory of God. Lk 5:7 "And they beckoned unto their partners, which were in the other ship, that they should come and help them. And they came, and filled both the ships ..." - it's a parable and we know, in which sense they have been fishers of men. Actually, I'm a Heretic, seeking and valuing Truth above any Dogma. My nick-name or spiritual name "Semi" means Half, and among else I'm an astrophysics amateur scientist, or rather a scientific heretic too.
    πα½
    True to his boast of being a heretic, he is promoting the Hussite heresy:


    https://www.cathinfo.com/general-discussion/francis-its-an-honor-that-americans-attack-me/



    Offline Mark 79

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    Re: Francis: “it’s an honor that Americans attack me”
    « Reply #20 on: September 10, 2019, 07:47:05 PM »
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  • A prot site, but there's some excellent material in this article: https://praypsalms.org/22-reasons-to-pray-the-cursing-psalms-b4a85ae40aa9https://praypsalms.org/22-reasons-to-pray-the-cursing-psalms-b4a85ae40aa9  
    When we were fighting the pederasts, homosexualists, and heretics in our Diocese, we prayed Rosaries and other prayers of reparation in front of the chancery, but also:


    Psalm 34 (Psalm of David)

    Judge thou, O Lord, them that wrong me: overthrow them that fight against me.
    Take hold of arms and shield: and rise up to help me.
    Bring out the sword, and shut up the way against them that persecute me: say to my soul:
    I am thy salvation.
    Let them be confounded and ashamed that seek after my soul. Let them be turned back and be confounded that devise against me.
    Let them become as dust before the wind: and let the angel of the Lord straiten them.
    Let their way become dark and slippery; and let the angel of the Lord pursue them.
    For without cause they have hidden their net for me unto destruction: without cause they have upbraided my soul.
    Let the snare which he knoweth not come upon him: and let the net which he hath hidden catch him: and into that very snare let them fall.
    But my soul shall rejoice in the Lord; and shall be delighted in his salvation.
    All my bones shall say: Lord, who is like to thee? Who deliverest the poor from the hand of them that are stronger than he; the needy and the poor from them that strip him.
    Unjust witnesses rising up have asked me things I knew not.
    They repaid me evil for good: to the depriving me of my soul.
    But as for me, when they were troublesome to me, I was clothed with haircloth. I humbled my soul with fasting; and my prayer shall be turned into my bosom.
    As a neighbor and as an own brother, so did I please: as one mourning and sorrowful so was I humbled.
    But they rejoiced against me, and came together: scourges were gathered together upon me, and I knew not.
    They were separated, and repented not: they tempted me, they scoffed at me with scorn: they gnashed upon me with their teeth.
    Lord, when wilt thou look upon me? rescue thou my soul from their malice: my only one from the lions.
    I will give thanks to thee in a great church; I will praise thee in a strong people.
    Let not them that are my enemies wrongfully rejoice over me: who have hated me without cause, and wink with the eyes.
    For they spoke indeed peaceably to me; and speaking in the anger of the earth they devised guile.
    And they opened their mouth wide against me; they said: Well done, well done, our eyes have seen it.
    Thou hast seen, O Lord, be not thou silent: O Lord, depart not from me.
    Arise, and be attentive to my judgment: to my cause, my God, and my Lord.
    Judge me, O Lord my God according to thy justice, and let them not rejoice over me.
    Let them not say in their hearts: It is well, it is well, to our mind: neither let them say: We have swallowed him up.
    Let them blush: and be ashamed together, who rejoice at my evils. Let them be clothed with confusion and shame, who speak great things against me.
    Let them rejoice and be glad, who are well pleased with my justice, and let them say always: The Lord be magnified, who delights in the peace of his servant.
    And my tongue shall meditate thy justice, thy praise all the day long.

    Offline klasG4e

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    Re: Francis ... fallen pope
    « Reply #21 on: September 10, 2019, 07:50:53 PM »
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  • Current Pope Francis is present and very dangerous now, by his push to open doors to all kinds of migrants...
    Typical diversion.  Great job Mark 79 and others in answering him!

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    Re: Francis: “it’s an honor that Americans attack me”
    « Reply #22 on: September 10, 2019, 07:53:36 PM »
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  • It is indeed "my business" to recognize and oppose heresy.

    You boasted of being a heretic as indeed you are.

    2 Corinthians 6:15 makes clear that I have neither concord nor part with you.

    Allow me to lay out the unwelcome mat.


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    Re: Francis ... fallen pope
    « Reply #23 on: September 10, 2019, 07:53:56 PM »
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  • Current Pope Francis is present and very dangerous now, by his push to open doors to all kinds of migrants...

    Francis' denial of proper Church teaching and his promotion of error is what makes him dangerous. Opening doors to migrants is one of the problems, but it's more of a symptom of his Modernist views.

    Jan Hus also promoted error. I side with the Church in his condemnation. I have no interest in reading his false teachings.

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    Re: Francis ... fallen pope
    « Reply #24 on: September 10, 2019, 07:58:36 PM »
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  • Typical diversion.  Great job Mark 79 and others in answering him!
    Diversion, as in "whataboutism."
    Only today to spotlight the aforementioned judensau Fran Taubman, I composed this meme:

    Hussite Judaizing, uses Jewish whataboutism (What about Mr. Bergoglio?), and preens his "antisemitism" bona fides.  As I smelled, a rat similar to Fran.

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    Re: Francis ... fallen pope
    « Reply #25 on: September 10, 2019, 08:09:50 PM »
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  • I've written in introduction, that I'm a heretic, and whether you would burn me at stack, half as a joke, or excommunicate me...? Because my favourite martyr Saint, master Jan Hus, who died with a prayer and forgiveness on his lips, while defending Good Faith and Church against corruption of medieval elites, was burnt on stack by a devilish council, quarreling for political might in the time of three popes. Recently, the Church has appologized for his death, but it is not enough. He was a martyr saint, regardless whether the Church proclaimed him such already, and was a conclusive proof of fallibility of councils, because that was a time when the fallen council condemned and executed a true saint.
    (Elsewhere you have advised me to return to the Church... As time allows, I attend masses at catholic church in nearby town... Where I live today, in the nearby town there are two churches, one of them is catholic, and the other is "czecho-slovak hussite church", which could be thought of as a national ecclesia of a saint heretic (my jest). The catholic priest here is utterly stupid man, such that he talked a Christmas-night homily about fear, whether the world has feared born baby Jesus and why, and recently nearby Easter he talked a homily, whether Jesus is a shepherd or a pimp, and whether priests, because these words sound similar in our language, and more such absurd and witless stuff. In the hussite church, the priest is a hidden rabbi, a jew known for translating Talmud, a kind wise bearded old man and seemingly a christian priest. But after last Easter, when he canceled big-friday service, that jewish-like seder on thursday is enough, and scheduled some burial ceremony on white saturday, then I rather returned to the catholic church, better a witless somehow funny dude but at least a christian... I admit that it is specific situation and elsewhere it may be different...) This just to say, that there is a whole ecclesia named in honor of that Jan Hus in my country, but we (or they) are not expecting or awaiting proclamation of Jan Hus as a saint, they do not acknowledge catholic saints at all...


    Well, nowadays, the Pope Francis has been serving the Luciferians, from all his Love above Reason, as a high-treason inviting Migrants, which are part of the Luciferian (free-masonic) plan of menaces, and it shall be proven soon. Francis is a living proof of fallibility of popes. And as a minor bag-holder servant of Luciferians and Antichrist Judas, he cannot serve as a Pope any more and he shall abdicate, and there comes again a time of three Popes, (which seems like a deserved Karma... Not because of any revenge, but he should abdicate, because he is dangerous to the Church and to the (European and American) Humanity). ...

    You should wash feet of your servants (or subordinates), as Apostles have been serving Jesus and so he washed their feet, but Pope washing feet of black migrants just shows, that they are serving him to destroy our homelands. Also the brotherhood with Islamic leaders could be acceptable in times of peace, but at times of Islamic invasion into Europe it is a Treason too... (Similar with supporting central-american invasion into USA.) Among all other faux-pas, such as covering the cross and bowing before an anti-christian woman, such as supporting noahide talmudists, and many more...


    I am far from claiming that Pope or Vatican is Antichrist, not at all... He just became an unwitting minor bag-holder servant of Antichrist collective, which already rules the world...  But there should not stay (or rule) Love above Reason in the Head, neither personally neither institutionally or nationally, Ecclesia being no exception to this.


    (... the text continued here about litigation appeals but you are not ready to understand that right yet...) (In short - should there be any dubiousness, I appeal this litigation to the Council.)

    Doesn't look like a side note to me. You opened your post with your admiration for Jan Hus, and criticism of the Catholic Church, and we're supposed to believe it's side note?


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    Re: Francis: “it’s an honor that Americans attack me”
    « Reply #26 on: September 10, 2019, 08:37:26 PM »
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    • Keep it up PASemi.  You might set a record.
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    Re: Francis: “it’s an honor that Americans attack me”
    « Reply #27 on: September 10, 2019, 11:36:37 PM »
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  • Shouldn't this be in the "Crisis in the Church" forum? 

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    Re: Francis: “it’s an honor that Americans attack me”
    « Reply #28 on: September 11, 2019, 02:20:46 AM »
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  • OK, the context was informal. The Pope was not speaking at a press conference. He was making a personal response to an author who had presented him with a book. There just happened to be a few dozen reporters within earshot, so the Pope’s comment couldn’t be denied. (Recall that when Pope Francis reportedly denied the existence of hell, the Vatican said the quotation could not “be considered a faithful transcription” and left it at that.)

    But let’s take a closer look at that “informal context.” The Pope had been presented with a copy of How American Wants to Change the Pope, in which author Nicolas Seneze argues that a powerful coalition of conservative American political interests is working against the Pontiff. The Pope expresses a keen interest in the book, and in another offhand remark as he passed the book to an aide, described it as “a bomb.”

    Seneze does not merely report that the Pope has American critics; he claims, in effect, that there is an American conspiracy against the papacy. Pope Francis indicates that he is anxious to learn more about the conspiracy theory. Now in that “informal context” does it really sound as if the Pope feels honored by this criticism?

    The papal spokesman goes on to say that the Pope is honored because the criticism comes from “authoritative thinkers.” Is he saying, then, that the American critics of the Pontiff are “authoritative thinkers?” Because that really isn’t the thrust of the Seneze book that the Pope was welcoming. Seneze argues that the American critics are politically motivated: a theme that the Pope’s closest associates have sounded frequently. Or is Seneze himself the authoritative thinker? Because he’s not criticizing the Pope; he’s criticizing those people who criticize the Pope.

    Finally—not to belabor the point unduly—despite his claims and those of his spokesman, there’s precious little evidence that Pope Francis is “honored’ by criticism. Ask Cardinals Burke and Müller. Ask the other authors of the dubia. Ask the priests who were summarily dismissed from the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith for voicing concerns about the Pope’s thinking. Ask the ousted faculty members of the John Paul II Institute. One honors criticism by responding to it. The track record suggests that Pope Francis prefers to suppress it.
    Could it be that some of those who attack him are freemasons?

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    Re: Francis: “it’s an honor that Americans attack me”
    « Reply #29 on: September 13, 2019, 02:45:03 PM »
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  • Huh?   The only Freemasons are the communists who infiltrated the Church. 

    Pope Francis judged people who are actually Catholic.   He is very worried.  
    To live with the Saints in Heaven is all bliss and glory....To live with the saints on Earth is just another story!  (unknown)

     

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