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Offline Meg

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Re: Fr. Joseph Collins Funeral Announcement
« Reply #60 on: May 06, 2019, 11:04:50 AM »
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    • Quote from: 2Vermont on May 06, 2019, 09:23:19 AM
    Yes.  The key part seems to be "if the executor accepted the testimony of the witnesses". And according to the witnesses, Father Collins wanted Bishop Dolan before he died.

    From what I have read on this thread, Fr. Collins was kind and charitable. Why then would he knowingly cause division and strife by changing his mind about who would celebrate his funeral Mass? It doesn't make sense.
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    Offline Maria Auxiliadora

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    Re: Fr. Joseph Collins Funeral Announcement
    « Reply #61 on: May 06, 2019, 11:16:46 AM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on May 06, 2019, 11:04:50 AM
    From what I have read on this thread, Fr. Collins was kind and charitable. Why then would he knowingly cause division and strife by changing his mind about who would celebrate his funeral Mass? It doesn't make sense.

    Correct. The Saturday before Palm Sunday Fr. Collins went over his Last Will and Testament on the phone with John Sharpe. I believe Fr. McMahon was present for most of the conversation but at one point, Fr. Collins wanted to speak to John Sharpe alone. There should be no misunderstanding.
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    Re: Fr. Joseph Collins Funeral Announcement
    « Reply #62 on: May 06, 2019, 12:22:36 PM »
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    • This is my last post on this issue.

    The attacks on ALL of the people involved need to stop, especially attacks against Father McMahon and the executor. None of us have all of the facts. In Catholic charity everyone is entitled to their good name. The executor has the right to do as he sees fit with implementing the will. I was quite upset that Father McMahon was attacked personally and I defended him accordingly. Drew and Mrs. “Drew”, I apologize for my posts to you, however I was very bothered about what you wrote about Father McMahon, please stop. Folks, we’re all Catholics let’s act like Catholics, God will judge all in the end.
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    Re: Fr. Joseph Collins Funeral Announcement
    « Reply #63 on: May 06, 2019, 12:38:21 PM »
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    • Is This Father Denis McMahon? Or another Father McMahon?
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    Re: Fr. Joseph Collins Funeral Announcement
    « Reply #64 on: May 06, 2019, 01:03:28 PM »
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    • Quote from: Quo vadis Domine on May 06, 2019, 12:22:36 PM
    This is my last post on this issue.

    The attacks on ALL of the people involved need to stop, especially attacks against Father McMahon and the executor. None of us have all of the facts. In Catholic charity everyone is entitled to their good name. The executor has the right to do as he sees fit with implementing the will. I was quite upset that Father McMahon was attacked personally and I defended him accordingly. Drew and Mrs. “Drew”, I apologize for my posts to you, however I was very bothered about what you wrote about Father McMahon, please stop. Folks, we’re all Catholics let’s act like Catholics, God will judge all in the end.
    Agreed. 
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    Offline Maria Auxiliadora

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    Re: Fr. Joseph Collins Funeral Announcement
    « Reply #65 on: May 07, 2019, 05:05:58 AM »
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    • I forgot to look at the schedule earlier, I've been caring for 6 of our grandchildren since last week but those who are not able to make it at least can be united in their prayers for Fr. Collins' soul. Before anyone ask, there is no clergy listed but there should be pictures on time.

    SCHEDULE:

    Tuesday, May 7, 2019
    5:00 pm (slight possibility of some delay) – Reception of body; procession into church; opening of casket.
    5:30 pm – Vespers of Dead (Time may be adjusted to accommodate clergy arrival.)
    7:30 pm – Rosary
    9:00 pm – End of Wake

    Wednesday, May 8, 2019
    10:00 am – Matins & Lauds of Dead
    11:00 am – Funeral Mass & Burial

    Location:
    St. Michael’s Chapel
    507 Rt. 9W
    Glenmont, New York 12077
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    Re: Fr. Joseph Collins Funeral Announcement
    « Reply #66 on: May 07, 2019, 11:15:59 AM »
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    • Quote from: Endeavor on May 06, 2019, 12:38:21 PM
    Is This Father Denis McMahon? Or another Father McMahon?
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    I too am wondering this, so hopefully someone can confirm.
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    Re: Fr. Joseph Collins Funeral Announcement
    « Reply #67 on: May 07, 2019, 11:53:54 AM »
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    • Here's praying for more humble and charitable traditional Catholic priests like Fr. Collins...

    Because of numerous bad experiences, I had given up all trust in traditional Catholic priests until meeting him and his becoming my confessor...

    God rest his soul...

    He will be sorely missed...  😔

    On that note...  Fr. Collins really loved, trusted and respected John Sharpe more than almost anyone else I know.  I believe this is the reason he made him his executor of his will.  Father Collins would not want people fighting about what was to be done for him but he probably forsaw it happening regardless of who was in charge.  So, he picked John because he knew John would not waiver in fulfilling his last requests no matter the pressure or detraction of others.  God bless John Sharpe andhis family for their loyalty, love and support to Fr. Collins!
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    Re: Fr. Joseph Collins Funeral Announcement
    « Reply #68 on: May 07, 2019, 12:01:28 PM »
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    • Is there a reason the identity of the celebrant seems to be a closely guarded secret?
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    Re: Fr. Joseph Collins Funeral Announcement
    « Reply #69 on: May 07, 2019, 12:08:01 PM »
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    • Quote from: TKGS on May 07, 2019, 12:01:28 PM
    Is there a reason the identity of the celebrant seems to be a closely guarded secret?

    Childish cloak-and-dagger games no doubt.
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    Re: Fr. Joseph Collins Funeral Announcement
    « Reply #70 on: May 07, 2019, 12:43:59 PM »
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    Is there a reason the identity of the celebrant seems to be a closely guarded secret?
    Is there a reason it matters?  You go to the funeral mass for Fr Collins, not the celebrant. 
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    Re: Fr. Joseph Collins Funeral Announcement
    « Reply #71 on: May 07, 2019, 01:40:14 PM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on May 07, 2019, 12:43:59 PM
    Is there a reason it matters?  You go to the funeral mass for Fr Collins, not the celebrant.
    Yes.  It matters if the priest that says Mass is not a true priest.  I won't be there anyway since I live several States away.  I'm just wondering why this seems to be a secret.
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    Re: Fr. Joseph Collins Funeral Announcement
    « Reply #72 on: May 07, 2019, 01:46:58 PM »
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    Yes.  It matters if the priest that says Mass is not a true priest.
    Fr Collins requested who would say his funeral mass.  Why would he request a non-Trad priest?

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    I won't be there anyway since I live several States away.
    Sounds like you don't have too much of a connection to Fr Collins.  If you did, then you'd know someone who is involved in the funeral or who regularly attended one of his masses, who would be able to tell you the details.

    For example, I've met Fr Collins a few times.  I really liked him.  But I don't live near NY or DC, so I don't expect to know the details of what's going on, except what has been graciously posted here.  And I don't expect to find out.  How would anyone know to contact me?  It makes no sense.

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    I'm just wondering why this seems to be a secret.
    Where is the information supposed to be posted?  Is there supposed to be a news conference?  Why do you expect for John Sharpe, who lives in DC, should know to contact you on where/when the funeral is for Fr Collins?  Does he have your phone #?  Is he supposed to create a website?  
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    Re: Fr. Joseph Collins Funeral Announcement
    « Reply #73 on: May 07, 2019, 03:21:38 PM »
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    • Quote from: TKGS on May 07, 2019, 01:40:14 PM

    Yes.  It matters if the priest that says Mass is not a true priest    .  I won't be there anyway since I live several States away.  I'm just wondering why this seems to be a secret.

    Then, rest assured that Mr. Sharpe, the executor of the will and Fr. Collins trusted and dearest friend, will take care of that. I recommend you practice the virtue of patience and wait a few more hours. Those in charge are busy enough planing, coordinating, traveling with family and making arrangements for the clergy attending the funeral...and mourning!
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    Re: Fr. Joseph Collins Funeral Announcement
    « Reply #74 on: May 07, 2019, 04:06:02 PM »
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    • Quote from: Maria Auxiliadora on May 07, 2019, 03:21:38 PM
    Then, rest assured that Mr. Sharpe, the executor of the will and Fr. Collins trusted and dearest friend, will take care of that. I recommend you practice the virtue of patience and wait a few more hours. Those in charge are busy enough planing, coordinating, traveling with family and making arrangements for the clergy attending the funeral...and mourning!
    Spare me the platitudes.
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