The sad fact is that Fr. Amorth's "exorcisms" were a complete and utter sham by the last years of his life as evidenced by the film "The Devil and Father Amorth." What you will find is a 30-something adult woman who is being loosely restrained by her father and her live-in boyfriend in a small room with some 10-15 friends and family members looking on while Fr. Gabriel plays Dr. Phil with the spirits. Director William Friedkin, who directed the "Exorcist" in 1973 (itself a massive occult induction), made sure to add cheap audio effects to the woman's voice when the demon was allegedly speaking. This "docuмentary" is terrible but it is solid proof that Fr. Amorth cannot ever be mistaken for a true traditionalist or even a conservative. It's clear to me that the Devil was running the show over there.
As for Malachi Martin, well it's time to throw that one out too. The man was a warlock. On top of working for the Powers That Be to ensure the prayer for the conversion of Jєωs was removed from Mass during the VII Council under the pen name Michael Serafian, Malachi was into some very new age garbage as proven through a long series of radio appearances.
Universal Salvation (you're saved and don't know it)
2:16:22 - 2:18:10
Bell: "First time caller line, you're on the air with Doctor Malachi Martin, Hi."
Caller: "Hello, Dr. Martin."
Martin: "Yes."
Caller: "It's about 5 years ago I had a- in a weak moment,"
Martin: "Yes."
Caller: "I had a ѕυιcιdє attempt."
Martin: "Yes."
Caller: "Uh, it seemed like there were forces in the house-"
Martin: "Uh-huh."
Caller: "-that saved me,
Martin: "Uh-huh."
Caller: "Ok?"
Martin: "Uh-huh."
Bell: "Where are you sir?"
Caller: "I'm in Vancouver"
Bell: "Vancouver, Canada. Alright."
Martin: "Ok, ok."
Caller: "Now, about 6 months before that we were doing a bunch of uh, not Ouija, but the same sort of thing and-"
Martin: "Yes, yes."
Caller: "And it seemed as though there were forces"
Martin: "Yes."
Caller: "And it seemed as if I was saved I've had nothing but bad luck since this time. Can you tell me uh-"
Martin: "Well, if you have dabbled in the Ouija Board seriously and if you have dabbled in any occult, there's no doubt about that, you're dealing with occult forces, Then you may have some attachments that you don't like, spiritual attachments an evil spirit.
and you want to get rid of them."
Caller: "Yes."
Martin: "And you want to get a good priest who can get rid of them for you, it's very hard to get rid of them yourself but a good priest can do that."
Caller: "I am not a- I'm not a Catholic or..."
Martin: "It doesn't matter."
Caller: "It doesn't matter?"
Martin: "It doesn't matter, you're a human being and you were redeemed by Christ whether you like it or not, whether you believe it or not."
His take on Remote Viewing
1:54:50 - 1:58:03
Martin: "The fact is, Michael, that Hitler's people and we follow him, we discovered that there are powers in human beings, latent powers that can be activated with training and, that's the first point. The second point is that those powers, the latent powers that can be activated with a special, very specialized training, those powers are those we associate with a preternatural condition like telekineses, telepathy, ah-"
Corbin: "Remote viewing?"
Martin: "Yeah. There's a whole list of things, of powers, psychic powers as we call them-"
Corbin: "Mmm-hmmm."
Martin: "They can be developed and they affect the physical person."
Corbin: "Are they innate in human beings or they an agency of this 'possession'?
Martin: "N-n-n-no-no. They're innate because you see what we have is a torn nature."
Corbin: "But these forces or powers can use them against us."
Martin: "Well, that's a big leap. But what the point I'm making is that our human nature is not in it's natural condition. It is some terrible depravation. We call it Original Sin in the Christian Church."
Corbin: "Uh-huh."
Martin: "Um, but the power in there as it were latently, they are now you see, if you look at the question of the (inaudible) if you believe demons exist, there are demonic angels, angels that have been demonized. They are not supernatural they have nothing supernatural about them. Nor are they natural. They are on what we call the 'middle plateau.'"
Corbin: "They're stuck in between..."
Martin: "The 'middle plateau' is the plateau on which what they exercise their psychic gifts. And what you find about possessed people, genuinely possessed people, is they have extraordinary psychic gifts. Extraordinary! And they're revoked by their master or their familiar or whatever form their demon possessing them takes. Um, now they have found that training these latent powers is very useful for certain types of special forces operations. But one side effect of the whole thing was to end up with phenomena that mimic possession so closely it is possession. And the rationale, it's only rationale behind that is that anything you have must be for the glory of God, the glory of Christ and serve the salvation of men."
Corbin: "And if it's not, it's serving Lucifer..."
Martin: "And if it's not you're serving Lucifer."
Corbin: "Very interesting."
Martin: "So, you know uh, that's the difficulty and I-I-I, the saddest thing I can ever find and I've met so often in the last 30, 40 years is people whom I know are being lead out of all salvation, out of all grace, out of all human hope by their psychic gifts being developed-"
Corbin: "Wow."
Martin: "-by a familiar."
Witchcraft can be used for good
1:29:05 - 1:30:53
Witch: "I've been a practicing Wicca for about 30 years plus and Father Martin there sounded so in touch with everything! Um, I was wondering if I could ask him a couple of questions."
Bell: "Go ahead!"
Martin: "Go ahead, maam!"
Witch: "Alright, uh Father?"
Martin: "Yes!"
Witch: "Would you say that things have been going kinda crazy in the world since the Catholic Church broke with tradition?"
Martin: "Yes."
Witch: "Uh would it be better if the Church went back to the old tradition?"
Martin: "Yes, but I think now that's impossible we can't go back, unfortunately. What will happen will be some new form, but unfortunately, ah see unfortunately you can see my prejudice there, it will be bedlam but they can't. They've gone too far."
Witch: "Yeah, ok 'cause um, at one time I was a Catholic, matter of fact with my religion I pulled some of my favorite saints into it too. Because as you know, with Wicca we encompass a lot of different religions."
Martin: "I know you do, I know you do. But that's alright, provided you honor Christ and..."
Witch: "Yeah, Oh yes, oh yes. It's a strange combination, uh but as most Wiccas find a place that's comfortable for themselves.
Martin: "Mmm hmm, mmm hmmm."
Witch: "I've started a couple of covens and that was one of the main things that I would present to the people is for them to find a place for them that was comfortable."
Martin: "Yeah."
Witch: "And in Wicca we really don't have black and white it's just an easy way to explain what we do."
Martin: "Yes that's- I agree with that. We have to use that as a way of denominating things, you know?"
Later in the same interview Art Bell reads an email from a concerned Catholic listener:
2:07:03 - 2:09:08
E-mail: "Fr. Martin, I'm a Catholic, respect you greatly but you said something that was a bit disquieting. An earlier caller identified herself as not only someone who practices Wicca but she said that she had left the Catholic Church. You said that was okay, what she was doing was okay as long as she honored Christ. Correct me if I'm wrong or please clarify what you meant. How can it be okay that she left the True Church for a pale imitation?"
Martin: "Well, I don't think she left the True Church. That's the point. From what she was saying it seems to me that she was deserting the organization as such, but if she honors Christ and honors His mother, and prays, and is a good person morally, she has no more left the Church than I have. What she is talking about is the organization which she found abhorrent for some reason or other."
"And of course it's not- if she had said to me 'No, I practice Wicca and I worship the devils or worship idols or I worship this world and, no, I don't have any belief or attachment to the Lord Jesus or to, as you call Him, or to the Virgin Mary or the angels', that would be a different story. But you can't say you've left the Church when you honor these people and when you live a moral life. She has some reason for saying that.
"I know so many people Art, who will tell me 'I absolutely hate the Catholic Church's organization, its clergy, its bishops, its garbage' and then I find that they're very good people! It's just that something bad hit them. They were maltreated, or unjustly treated, or they were scandalized, but they're still within the Church of Christ. He still loves them. They belong to Him still."
Bell: "They don't have to be in the organization to be with Him?"
Martin: "Not absolutely, they should be. If from some accident, personal accident, they exit from the formal connection with the organization, they still belong to Christ."
Also from the same interview: Werewolves for Christ!
1:52:14 - 1:52:36
Caller: "Is it possible for a person to be a lycanthrope and not be evil?"
Martin: "Yes, it is possible. Within the framework of your question I must say yes, it is possible. It is possible."
Caller: "In other words, can lycanthropy be kind of a gift?"
Martin: "Yes it can be and like everything else it can have a good purpose or an evil purpose."