Why do I eat meat? It's very simple: it tastes good (Catholics don't eat meat on Fridays though). Need I say more?

Also, Catholics have eaten all sorts of foods provided by God for ages (including the  Jєωs before their Covenant was ended in 33 AD) -- meat, grains, vegatables, and milk products.

As I see it, those are the things God intended for us to eat.

Now all these things are good, but it is wholesome for the soul to give up that which is lawful (e.g., meat) for a higher purpose from time to time -- for example on Fridays, ember days, vigils, etc.  For that matter, food is a good thing but it is good to deny oneself frequently by fasting.

Until the modern age of grain-fed cows, industrially produced chickens, antibiotics, etc. meat was much more expensive, so people didn't eat it at every meal. I'm sure that's thrown off the balance God intended, which is why so many people have poor health today.

In Genesis, God told Adam to name all the beasts and the animals. Clearly, this indicates that man was given dominion over the animals.

Animals don't have souls the same way that humans do, nor do they reason the same way as humans do. For one, human beings, because of their faculties of reason, have a fear of death that an animal doesn't have. An animal may run from a predator because its instincts tell it to, but it has no notion of death until right up to the last few moments of its life.


What does this mean? Well basically, that the animal goes through MUCH less pain than you would think it does. We as humans, having been given more gifts from God, suffer MUCH more at the notion of death, which is what brings most of its pain. Animals don't suffer anywhere near as much as humans do. They were put here on God to serve our corporal needs, and if we need to eat a horse or ride a horse, then the animal is serving its purpose. I feel no guilt when I eat a hamburger, and the animal has no regrets either.

I have a brother in law who was vegan. He came down with colitis, after many years of veganism. You know what the doctor told him to do? Eat. Red. Meat. He was missing certain types of bacteria in his colon, and after he started eating meat, he healed.

In Genesis, God told Adam to name all the beasts and the animals. Clearly, this indicates that man was given dominion over the animals.

Animals don't have souls the same way that humans do, nor do they reason the same way as humans do. For one, human beings, because of their faculties of reason, have a fear of death that an animal doesn't have. An animal may run from a predator because its instincts tell it to, but it has no notion of death until right up to the last few moments of its life.


What does this mean? Well basically, that the animal goes through MUCH less pain than you would think it does. We as humans, having been given more gifts from God, suffer MUCH more at the notion of death, which is what brings most of its pain. Animals don't suffer anywhere near as much as humans do. They were put here on God to serve our corporal needs, and if we need to eat a horse or ride a horse, then the animal is serving its purpose. I feel no guilt when I eat a hamburger, and the animal has no regrets either.

Well said! I was going to mention something like this in my post, but Lybus said it better than I could have.  Enjoy your turkeys on Thanksgiving!   :ready-to-eat:

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In Genesis, God told Adam to name all the beasts and the animals. Clearly, this indicates that man was given dominion over the animals.

Animals don't have souls the same way that humans do, nor do they reason the same way as humans do. For one, human beings, because of their faculties of reason, have a fear of death that an animal doesn't have. An animal may run from a predator because its instincts tell it to, but it has no notion of death until right up to the last few moments of its life.


What does this mean? Well basically, that the animal goes through MUCH less pain than you would think it does. We as humans, having been given more gifts from God, suffer MUCH more at the notion of death, which is what brings most of its pain. Animals don't suffer anywhere near as much as humans do. They were put here on God to serve our corporal needs, and if we need to eat a horse or ride a horse, then the animal is serving its purpose. I feel no guilt when I eat a hamburger, and the animal has no regrets either.

Well said! I was going to mention something like this in my post, but Lybus said it better than I could have.  Enjoy your turkeys on Thanksgiving!   :ready-to-eat:

Haha thanks :)

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how can you be happy to kill animals and then eat them when you can be healthy with vegetarian food?

How can you be happy killing plants for your own selfish desire to live?

An excellent point! But going back down one floor....

Something that vegans hardly ever consider is the number of animals that are most often killed in the process of growing their vegetables. When the soil gets tilled the ground dwelling critters are the ones who kick the bucket. So while that may be one less cow or goat slaughtered at the butcher's, it comes with a price tag of dead gophers, moles, beneficial snakes, mason bees, perhaps some of the predators who live off them who end up losing a meal, and in some areas I would add the endangered wild Bobwhite Quail to that list.

*This is assuming the grower is using conventional planting methods rather than no-till.