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Floor Level Roman Funeral For Cardinal Dias
« on: June 24, 2017, 12:01:58 AM »
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  • June 25, 2017 - Sunday within the Octave of the Most Sacred Heart of Jesus
     Semidouble Sunday

    Francis-Bergoglio Tosses Dead Cardinal on the Floor
     And Does Novus Ordo Hoc Pocus over Him
    From: The TRADITIO Fathers

    Francis-Bergoglio "Presides" at the Newchurch Funeral
     Of Ivan Dias, Newcardinal of Bombay, India, who Died on June 19, 2017
     Bergoglio's "Mess of the Future" Has Now Become the "Mess of the Present"
     The Coffin Is Tossed on the Floor instead of Being Placed on a Catafalque
     The Coffin is Nude, not Covered with a Black Pall, or Any Pall
     No Unbleached Candles Alongside the Coffin
     No Crucifix, Not Even a Simple Protestant Cross
     The Pre-Christian Romans Had Funerals of Far More Dignity
     Than This Pagan Marxist Newpope Can Scrounge Up
     Even for One of His Own Newcardinals
    Even the pre-Christian Romans had more of a sense of decorum than the Newpope Francis-Bergoglio, who as a Marxist is ofttimes worse than a pagan. On June 19, 2017, Newcardial Ivan Dias, of Bombay, India, died at the age of 81. Bergoglio took personal charge of his funeral in Rome. If anyone wants to see what the future of the Novus Ordo "liturgy" will be, its pagan nature is demonstrated by this Bergoglian funeral.
    First of all, the coffin is tossed on the floor, with barely a throw-rug underneath it. No dignified catafalque, traditionally called for, upon which to place the coffin. For Francis-Bergoglio, that would be too traditional, even for a Newcardinal. No black pall, in fact, no pall at all to cover the coffin. Just some big Protestant-looking book on top of the nude coffin. For Bergoglio, a funeral pall would be too traditional.
    What else is missing from this non-Catholic Bergoglian funeral? Well, there are no unbleached candles on either side of the coffin to remind us that this man received the light of Christ at his Baptism circa 1936. For Bergoglio, there is no traditional Baptism, after all, just a Rite of Initiation into the Novus Ordo Club. One looks in vain to find a Crucifix, to remind us that Christ died for this man with the ultimate sacrifice. Once cannot even see a simple Protestant cross. For Bergoglio, funeral candles and a crucifix, let alone a cross, would be too Catholic.
    True Catholics, note that Francis-Bergoglio is vested in red, as if for a martyr. Ironically, Newchurch cannot have martyrs any more than the Protestant sects, many of whose heresies Newchurch shares. The New Order has no valid sacraments (except sometimes baptism and matrimony) and thus no sacramental grace. No wonder Newchurch is so completely graceless and moribund. It is no better than the graceless Protestant sects.


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    Re: Floor Level Roman Funeral For Cardinal Dias
    « Reply #1 on: June 24, 2017, 12:57:29 AM »
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  • I thought NO functionaries wore white at funerals.


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    Re: Floor Level Roman Funeral For Cardinal Dias
    « Reply #2 on: June 24, 2017, 03:26:20 AM »
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  • This looks really unusual to me. What gives?

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    Re: Floor Level Roman Funeral For Cardinal Dias
    « Reply #3 on: June 24, 2017, 09:24:47 AM »
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  • The author of this story is an idiot.

    To begin, and this tells you how unknowledgable the story's author is, it is a well-known and ancient tradition that when the pope celebrates a funeral Mass, the liturgical color is red.  That is why when a pope dies and his body lies in state, it is clothed in red vestments (look at the pictures of Prius XII's funeral).

    Also, the placing of a Cardinal's coffin on the floor during a funeral that takes place in St. Peter's is also an old tradition.

    I do not know about the lack of a pall, however, given everything else this story got dead wrong, I'm not inclined to trust anything it says.

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    Re: Floor Level Roman Funeral For Cardinal Dias
    « Reply #4 on: June 24, 2017, 09:32:08 AM »
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  • Also - I am not trying to defend Francis.  There is so much we can legitimately criticize him for, but by writing such a clearly uniformed article, it just makes our side look stupid.


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    Re: Floor Level Roman Funeral For Cardinal Dias
    « Reply #5 on: June 24, 2017, 10:14:46 PM »
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  • The author of this story is an idiot.

    To begin, and this tells you how unknowledgable the story's author is, it is a well-known and ancient tradition that when the pope celebrates a funeral Mass, the liturgical color is red.  That is why when a pope dies and his body lies in state, it is clothed in red vestments (look at the pictures of Prius XII's funeral).

    Also, the placing of a Cardinal's coffin on the floor during a funeral that takes place in St. Peter's is also an old tradition.

    I do not know about the lack of a pall, however, given everything else this story got dead wrong, I'm not inclined to trust anything it says.
    Well it's not too well known as I had never heard of it and a search online turned up no info on how a Pope says a funeral Mass.  Thanks for the info.  Would you post your source please?  I'd like to bookmark this for future reference.

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    Re: Floor Level Roman Funeral For Cardinal Dias
    « Reply #6 on: June 25, 2017, 09:10:29 AM »
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  • Well it's not too well known as I had never heard of it and a search online turned up no info on how a Pope says a funeral Mass.  Thanks for the info.  Would you post your source please?  I'd like to bookmark this for future reference.
    So Pius XII was vested in red as he lay in his coffin?. Fr Morrison of Traditio did not say Pius XII should have been vested in black for his own funeral. And Father is an "idiot"?. He has faithfully served his flock for over three decades in the San Francisco area. Unlike those Traditional (?) groups who have gone indult irrespective of how their supporting faithful felt. Must we care what the Novus Ordo crowd think of us? So many in the world think that they are nothing but a bunch of homos and pedos from top to bottom.

     

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