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Title: Fisheaters has been suspended by their webhost
Post by: Matthew on December 13, 2010, 11:10:40 AM
Got an error message just now -- not sure how long the site will be down.

Matthew
Title: Fisheaters has been suspended by their webhost
Post by: ServusSpiritusSancti on December 13, 2010, 02:21:13 PM
Strange. Of course, FE has been going way downhill the past year or so. Makes you wonder how much longer that forum will hold on.
Title: Fisheaters has been suspended by their webhost
Post by: MaterLaeta on December 13, 2010, 06:44:47 PM
I hope it will stick around.  I still find it useful.  The best thing about it is the variety of people you find there.  Somewhere, you will find someone who is at a similar place on their journey, or someone who will understand where you are and offer advice without judging!
Title: Fisheaters has been suspended by their webhost
Post by: Belloc on December 14, 2010, 11:26:01 AM
the articles are good, not crazy of course about the forum..that part can go.....
Title: Fisheaters has been suspended by their webhost
Post by: stevusmagnus on December 14, 2010, 01:59:55 PM
Matthew,

What were you doing on FE?  :confused1:

Are you posting there again?
Title: Fisheaters has been suspended by their webhost
Post by: Matthew on December 14, 2010, 02:43:52 PM
I was trying to click on a link that appeared in my server logs -- a page that sent several people to CathInfo. I often check these out, to see how CathInfo is being mentioned out there.
Title: Fisheaters has been suspended by their webhost
Post by: MaterLaeta on December 14, 2010, 03:40:17 PM
Their twitter page says the forum is back up, but I go to the forum & it says suspended?!
Title: Fisheaters has been suspended by their webhost
Post by: stevusmagnus on December 14, 2010, 03:49:37 PM
Quote from: Matthew
I was trying to click on a link that appeared in my server logs -- a page that sent several people to CathInfo. I often check these out, to see how CathInfo is being mentioned out there.


Neat! Once they are back up, let us know the link.
Title: Fisheaters has been suspended by their webhost
Post by: QuisUtDeus on December 14, 2010, 04:22:47 PM
Quote from: Matthew
I was trying to click on a link that appeared in my server logs -- a page that sent several people to CathInfo. I often check these out, to see how CathInfo is being mentioned out there.


Lots of people who run forums do that.   :wink:
Title: Fisheaters has been suspended by their webhost
Post by: Matthew on December 14, 2010, 04:42:05 PM
So what's going on at Fisheaters? New feature that's eating up too much CPU or something?
Title: Fisheaters has been suspended by their webhost
Post by: clare on December 14, 2010, 04:50:52 PM
It was back up earlier today. I think Quis posted something about FE getting too big for their hosts. That CPU thing Matthew refers to was mentioned, but I didn't understand it!

At the moment it's in Maintenance Mode. "Fixing site issues (again) - ETA: this evening"
Title: Fisheaters has been suspended by their webhost
Post by: QuisUtDeus on December 14, 2010, 05:04:30 PM
What Clare said.  Yes, it's the CPU load.

If it weren't a shared host it would just run slower under heavy load which I would be fine with, but since it affects other websites, that's not allowed.

So, I've been hacking stuff out to try and reduce the CPU load - like removing the RSS feed from the website front page, turning off page compression, etc.

Anyhow, a blessed Advent to all!

Title: Fisheaters has been suspended by their webhost
Post by: Matthew on December 14, 2010, 07:56:13 PM
I heard that turning page compression off is a net LOSS because each session has to work longer to provide a larger page to download -- which costs (you guessed it) CPU time.

http://www.whatsmyip.org/http_compression/

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A common misconception is that compressing web pages on the fly will slow down a web server. This is not the case. It does take a little CPU to do the compression, but the result is that your web server is handling significantly less data, which reduces the total CPU load on the server.
Title: Fisheaters has been suspended by their webhost
Post by: Matthew on December 14, 2010, 08:06:11 PM
Even avatars, smilies, etc. take up a bit of bandwidth and hence CPU usage.

Try reducing the number of posts per page -- when the program has to crunch 50 posts into a webpage when a person might only read 2 of them -- not exactly efficient.

I would turn page compression back on.

If you're using any javascript libraries, etc. you could try pre-compressing and serving it up GZipped.

Same for CSS files -- make sure they're external, then GZIP them and serve them up that way.

Gzipping reduces HTML/Javascript/CSS to about 1/4 of original size.

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http://www.tanbooks.com/beta/ is gzipped

Original Size: 39.32 KB
Gzipped Size: 8.2 KB
Data Savings: 79.15%
Title: Fisheaters has been suspended by their webhost
Post by: QuisUtDeus on December 14, 2010, 11:09:07 PM
OK, that makes sense.  I'll turn it back on.  That's also a good idea about posts per page.  I'll trim them down.

Thanks for the advice!

Title: Fisheaters has been suspended by their webhost
Post by: Belloc on December 15, 2010, 07:26:59 AM
Quote from: QuisUtDeus
What Clare said.  Yes, it's the CPU load.

If it weren't a shared host it would just run slower under heavy load which I would be fine with, but since it affects other websites, that's not allowed.

So, I've been hacking stuff out to try and reduce the CPU load - like removing the RSS feed from the website front page, turning off page compression, etc.

Anyhow, a blessed Advent to all!



could createa separate site for your forum and info? With links to each?
Title: Fisheaters has been suspended by their webhost
Post by: stevusmagnus on December 15, 2010, 07:28:08 AM
Yes, I used to do it with my blog, back when I had time to write a blog.

Quote from: QuisUtDeus
Quote from: Matthew
I was trying to click on a link that appeared in my server logs -- a page that sent several people to CathInfo. I often check these out, to see how CathInfo is being mentioned out there.


Lots of people who run forums do that.   :wink:
Title: Fisheaters has been suspended by their webhost
Post by: stevusmagnus on December 15, 2010, 07:43:50 AM
You should go back to your old display format. It was much better and easier on the eyes than the new one.
Title: Fisheaters has been suspended by their webhost
Post by: MaterLaeta on December 15, 2010, 04:24:44 PM
Just got this from the FE forum page:

Fixing site issues (again) - ETA: Unknown; depends on hosting provider

Looks like FE is down indefinitely.

I guess I will be hanging around here more for my daily fix of traditional catholicism.
Title: Fisheaters has been suspended by their webhost
Post by: stevusmagnus on December 15, 2010, 07:53:28 PM
Glad to have you.