[Someone1776]

Something to keep in mind is that while the OP states this topic is fair game to be discussed since "Quis and Vox" announced it, in fact only one of them did so, and that person specifically stated they were doing so without the permission of of of the other.

I am not condoning any of their actions, but I am reminded of when Christ said "let he who has not sinned cast the first stone."  

[Matthew]

No offense to anyone involved, but I don't feel sorry when movie stars, presidents, or forum owners whine, "I don't get to have a priiiivate liiiiife....."

Hey, you just have to drown your sorrows in some of the money/power you received in exchange for giving up your life as a private, unknown, non-famous individual.

The Knife of Fame cuts both ways.

And yes, that even includes forum owners to a lesser degree. A forum owner enjoys certain perks as well as being scrutinized by the hundreds (or thousands) of members of the forum.

Now I'm not saying that Quis or Vox is whining, but a lot of people on FE and here are whining FOR them. But they (as well as myself) don't deserve any sympathy for having their personal life be front-page news. THEY chose to run the largest traditional Catholic forum; it goes with the territory.

The fact is, people WANT to know about the lives of famous people. That's why all those magazines in the checkout line at the grocery store sell. People are fascinated by the lives of those who make movies, play professional sports, run corporations, run countries -- and, to a much lesser degree, those who run traditional Catholic fora.

I think part of the fascination is because we common folk like to see that those on pedestals are just as human as ourselves. That's why human nature likes to devour scandals.

Matthew

[wallflower]

I can't believe this. Yes, their situation was public to some, not all of us. I came around afterward. Yes, Quis announced this publicly, but on his own forum. And yes, I realize a majority seems to think this is the best outcome for them spiritually.

BUT-- none of that changes the fact that running over to another forum the minute you have juicy gossip to announce from the rooftops is pretty dishonorable. It seems that enough people from here lurk over there so those who are interested will see it themselves discreetly.

[wallflower]

The fact is, people WANT to know about the lives of famous people. That's why all those magazines in the checkout line at the grocery store sell. People are fascinated by the lives of those who make movies, play professional sports, run corporations, run countries -- and, to a much lesser degree, those who run traditional Catholic fora.

I think part of the fascination is because we common folk like to see that those on pedestals are just as human as ourselves. That's why human nature likes to devour scandals.

This is a fact and that's why those magazines sell, but I dare say that the drive behind that is not a virtuous one. We want to hear these bad things about other people, things that make them "human", does that mean we have an excuse to indulge ourselves? Most of it is vain curiosity and should be squashed, whether the person is famous or the next door neighbor.

[gladius_veritatis]

I never really followed the dramas about their 'union', as I had already been kicked off FE.  Whatever the situation was, is, or will be, I wish them both the best, will always be grateful for the time I spent at FE, and will pray that whatever follows works out as well and smoothly as possible, for Quis and Vox and the 'FE community' as a whole.  These are dark days that will only get darker before the arrival of the dawn (which WILL come).  May all of us hold fast and help each other whenever possible.

[MaterDominici]

No offense to anyone involved, but I don't feel sorry when movie stars, presidents, or forum owners whine, "I don't get to have a priiiivate liiiiife....."

Hey, you just have to drown your sorrows in some of the money/power you received in exchange for giving up your life as a private, unknown, non-famous individual.

The Knife of Fame cuts both ways.

And yes, that even includes forum owners to a lesser degree. A forum owner enjoys certain perks as well as being scrutinized by the hundreds (or thousands) of members of the forum.

Now I'm not saying that Quis or Vox is whining, but a lot of people on FE and here are whining FOR them. But they (as well as myself) don't deserve any sympathy for having their personal life be front-page news. THEY chose to run the largest traditional Catholic forum; it goes with the territory.

The fact is, people WANT to know about the lives of famous people. That's why all those magazines in the checkout line at the grocery store sell. People are fascinated by the lives of those who make movies, play professional sports, run corporations, run countries -- and, to a much lesser degree, those who run traditional Catholic fora.

I think part of the fascination is because we common folk like to see that those on pedestals are just as human as ourselves. That's why human nature likes to devour scandals.

Matthew

Sorry, but that post is a little insane. There's no reason why you can't run an Internet forum while keeping your private life private. It might be true of movie stars, but that doesn't really have anything to do with this.

I'm sure there are a large number of fishies who don't even know Quis and Vox's first names.

[love alabama]

Turns out I got banned over that little thread, LOL, but on this point, I agree that prayers are better than discussion.

You got banned????   Yikes Fisheaters has gone downhill. I guess we are migrating here to cathinfo from fisheaters.  I have joined too from FE.

[MaterDominici]

Turns out I got banned over that little thread, LOL, but on this point, I agree that prayers are better than discussion.

It continues to bother me when I can't remember something. I'm pretty sure you were on FE before me, but what was your original screen name?

[clare]

Turns out I got banned over that little thread, LOL, but on this point, I agree that prayers are better than discussion.

It continues to bother me when I can't remember something. I'm pretty sure you were on FE before me, but what was your original screen name?

I think he was Archbishop 10k or something, if I remember rightly.

[TheHarlequinKing]

Turns out I got banned over that little thread, LOL, but on this point, I agree that prayers are better than discussion.

It continues to bother me when I can't remember something. I'm pretty sure you were on FE before me, but what was your original screen name?

Aye. My original screen name was Archbishop_10K.

[MaterDominici]

That's it!
...and now I'll sleep better tonight : )

[LordPhan]

Something to keep in mind is that while the OP states this topic is fair game to be discussed since "Quis and Vox" announced it, in fact only one of them did so, and that person specifically stated they were doing so without the permission of of of the other.

I am not condoning any of their actions, but I am reminded of when Christ said "let he who has not sinned cast the first stone."  

That is not the meaning of that phrase. You can only forgive sins of those who are repentant, otherwise you commit the mortal sin of indifference to sin, furthermore you may not forgive sins in anothers name(Unless you are a Priest then you can forgive in God's name under the condition that person is truly contrite). Also Scandal(Making others believe that something which is wrong is ok, is a mortal sin and cohabitating together constitutes such an offense, there are quite a few condemnations in Catholic Law over such things.

Just remember that the Neo-Caths are Protestant, they wouldn't know catholic doctrine it it smacked them in the face, and my experience with some of the Fisheaters people over hear leads me to believe there is rampant formal heresy over there. I am happy that those who are not heretics are coming over here, they will find a good Catholic Forum here where Heresy is not tolerated :)

[JPaul]

This is no one's business and should not be posted on Cathinfo. I don't know if they decided to post on FE's forum, but please remove this thread.

These are tragic matters and I wonder, do we really need to know this?



JMJ

[Miss_Fluffy]

The main thing that is creepy about this thread, besides it's very existence, is the assumption that their divorce is a good development.

We have so little information about their lives, their histories.  Just pieces here and there.  How can we possibly know that their divorce is somehow leading them away from sin?

As Catholics, we aren't supposed to assume sin on anyone's part, and to assume it when we don't even know these people personally.  In reality, 99.999999% of their lives is a mystery to us strangers.

Not to mention that it's rather nasty to tell someone in the midst of great suffering that it's a great thing they're suffering.  Some people have no sense of tact.

[LaramieHirsch]

Turns out I got banned over that little thread, LOL, but on this point, I agree that prayers are better than discussion.

You got banned????   Yikes Fisheaters has gone downhill. I guess we are migrating here to cathinfo from fisheaters.  I have joined too from FE.

!?!?  Holy Moly!  HK banned?  Dude, you seemed so...neutral.  What on earth would they ban you for?  (PM me, if it's too private.)

Sheesh.  I wonder if I'm banned now.  Time to check.