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Offline trad123

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Re: Feeneyism Destroyed
« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2019, 11:03:07 AM »
I'm flabbergasted that you're not seeing the distinction.

There is a transition here from being a non-Catholic to adhering to the Catholic faith, at the hour of death.
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Offline forlorn

Re: Feeneyism Destroyed
« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2019, 11:04:03 AM »
Quote from: forlorn on August 10, 2019, 09:53:01 AM
If God is "creating souls just to damn them" by creating the invincibly ignorant, then how is He not doing so when he creates a baby who gets aborted or otherwise dies before/without baptism? There is no way around that. If believing that those who die invincibly ignorant cannot achieve the beatific vision is Calvinist or Jansenistic, then believing that unbaptised babies can't achieve it either would also be. It's hypocritical and contradictory to assert otherwise.
Seán is still ignoring this point, as he has done in multiple threads over the course of the last week.
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Offline Augustinus21

Re: Feeneyism Destroyed
« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2019, 11:13:22 AM »
Quote from: forlorn on August 10, 2019, 11:02:17 AM
You said an angel or preacher would be sent to them by God. Why would the angel or the preacher not baptise them?
An angel can not baptise. 
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Offline forlorn

Re: Feeneyism Destroyed
« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2019, 11:14:22 AM »
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Offline Augustinus21

Re: Feeneyism Destroyed
« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2019, 11:14:40 AM »
This is Fr. Muller’s rebuke of Feeneyite pride

Q. Is it then right for us to say that one who was not received into the Church before his death, is damned?
A. No.
Q. Why not?
A. Because we cannot know for certain what takes place between God and the soul at the awful moment of death.
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