Seraphina says:
And by Obamacare, I assume you're referring to the state sponsored health exchanges? Not for me! I was one of the very few that was able to "If you like your insurance, you can keep it." My employer is a member of a Christian health group sharing plan. The price went up considerably, 13.5%, but beggars can't be choosers. Since all the organizations are registered non-profits, we get around by a state loophole, having to finance abortions, birth control, sex change treatment or surgery, and sterilizations. Individuals who want those things can apply to Aetna and pay per treatment. I'm not really sure how that works. Some Protestants, for example, use contraception. The prescription, eyeglass, and dental coverage also costs extra. I get the prescription plan, but self-pay for eyeglasses and dental. I get new glasses every four or five years, and just take my chances with the dentist. Thus far, it is less to self-pay. I've gotten one pair of glasses at Walmart, and had one tooth pulled. It was a back most crooked molar, useless even before it decayed. The other teeth haven't loosened or migrated as I was told. It doesn't show, and I don't miss it for eating, so I'm not getting the recommended implant.
I do think it's rather rash judgment on the part of the OP to condemn people with no choice to hell while boasting about being able to pay a steep fine, or tax as Obama and Peℓσѕι called it! This manner of thinking condemns nearly all Catholic citizens of countries with socialized medicine to hell! After all, there IS such a thing as not partaking of immortal medical treatment. Nobody HAS to get contraceptives or abort their babies. I'm wondering if the OP realizes his tax money finances public schools? Since they are Satanic institutions, will he not also take the mark of the beast for giving his money to corrupt the minds of children?
Our Lord said, "Render to Caesar the things that are his, and to God, the things that are God's." He then proceeded to pay His taxes!
Another woman rationalizing her material comfort, security and convenience, and not trusting in the Lord God. You will certainly take the Mark of the Beast.I’m sorry, but I don’t think Jesus said “except in the case of...”. He said pay your taxes.
You've committed several logical fallacies. The first is a strawman. I never said, nor did I boast, I was able to pay steep fines for not accepting Obamacare. I said I evaded the whole communist system without penalty. I'll let you figure out how I did it.
Your other logical fallacy is equating federal reserve notes with the currency of Caesar. The former is completely fake. It's created out of thin air and stored as a digital unit or printed as paper. It's used as a unit of debt to enslave the population. The latter is true currency made of the elements gold, silver, bronze, and others...dug out of the earth, and tempered and shaped, by Roman hands with blood and sweat for Caesar. Regarding the former, people are under no moral obligation to pay any entity a unit of debt, whether it be taxes, loans or usury, that has no intrinsic origin, but was created out of nothing. The lender and government did absolutely nothing to generate anything of substance. It's ALL AN ILLUSION. There is no real value, therefore, taxpayers and borrowers are under no moral obligation to slave away for a deception. Regarding the latter, the Roman currency, indeed, had and has (regarding collecting, today) substantive value and origin. People were certainly obligated to render unto Caesar what belonged to him and the Roman empire, as commanded by the Lord God.
I’m sorry, but I don’t think Jesus said “except in the case of...”. He said pay your taxes.
I’m in agreement with you on taxation is theft. The amount my husband has to pay for being successful is outrageous! He’s being punished for taking care of his family, and being responsible. That being said he does pay because God said too.
Rome was unfair with its taxes which is why Jesus was posed that question in the first place.
I see. So, you only follow bible quotes exactly as they are read when it fits your agenda. But when it comes to something you don’t like than it has cliff notes.
VintageWife3 says:
Matthew 22 17:21
Tell us therefore what dost thou think, is it lawful to give tribute to Caesar, or not? But Jesus knowing their wickedness, said: Why do you tempt me, ye hypocrites? Show me the coin of the tribute. And they offered him a penny. And Jesus saith to them: Whose image and inscription is this. They say to him: Caesar's. Then he saith to them: Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar's; and to God, the things that are God's. And hearing this they wondered, and leaving him, went their ways.
All of you who succuмbed to Commie "Care" (Obamacare) will easily submit to the Mark of the Beast. You failed the test. You say you won't take the Mark, but your actions and lack of backbone say otherwise...
Another woman rationalizing her material comfort, security and convenience, and not trusting in the Lord God. You will certainly take the Mark of the Beast.
I’m not against anything God, or the church says. I know my place. Thank you, next.
Idiot. There's nothing inherently anti-Catholic, nor even inherently Communist, about a state-run health insurance system ... such as what they have in Canada.
Matthew, who will rid us of this insufferable moron?
He needs to be gone simply because you've already banned him once.
#BelieveWomenThis post isn’t about women’s rights. It was about Obamacare, and taxes. You seem to have a problem with me not submitting to your teaching, but I would point out I submit very readily to my husbands teachings. There is no believe women about anything here.
This post isn’t about women’s rights. It was about Obamacare, and taxes. You seem to have a problem with me not submitting to your teaching, but I would point out I submit very readily to my husbands teachings. There is no believe women about anything here.
I love being a woman, and taking care of my family. It’s what I love for ( As do many of the wonderful women here). It’s because we don’t listen to you doesn’t mean we aren’t submissive.
You have a problem with God's word and the traditional roles of man and woman in the Church before the Montinian hijacking.No I absolutely do not. You can’t even tell me how I have a problem with it I bet. Stop twisting your own thread.
#BelieveWomen
What I would like you to explain is: you say that taxes are wrong because they are an illusion. The currency doesn’t exist. I don’t disagree! But how does that change us following the word of God? Shouldn’t we still do what He says to do?
I asked you to explain why we were exempt from following what Jesus had said. It’s also funny that even though I’ve repeatedly agreed with you on the state of the currency, and everything you’ve said about it. All I wanted was for you to explain our exemption. I’m still wrong? So now you want to explain that to me?
You seriously look ignorant since I said I already know you explained it. I ask you to explain how even though I agreed with you on everything how am I still wrong?
Your mental gymnastics don't work here, woman.No, please. Enlighten my foolish woman Brain. I agree with you on everything you’ve said about the state of the currency, and The people behind it. Now explain to me how I’m wrong even after agreeing with you?
#Slithery
No, please. Enlighten my foolish woman Brain. I agree with you on everything you’ve said about the state of the currency, and The people behind it. Now explain to me how I’m wrong even after agreeing with you?
Stop lying. You asked me to explain why Americans shouldn't have to render dollars (pay taxes) unto the U.S. government, despite Jesus Christ telling the Jєωs to render unto Caesar what is Caesar's.Yes, and I never said I believe you there. I told you the areas I agreed with you on very specifically leaving this part out. I’m going to do research of my own in that area. It doesn’t make sense how you can give yourself exemption from certain things in the Bible. So, I’m gonna go higher up then you, and talk to my priest.
#Slithery
#WomanWontOwnHerError
Yes, and I never said I believe you there. I told you the areas I agreed with you on very specifically leaving this part out. I’m going to do research of my own in that area. It doesn’t make sense how you can give yourself exemption from certain things in the Bible. So, I’m gonna go higher up then you, and talk to my priest.
What I said is I agree with you on everything else, and some how I’m still wrong.
It’s only because I won’t submit to you.
Anyhow, have a blessed night!
Matthew, who will rid us of this insufferable moron?
He needs to be gone simply because you've already banned him once.
Idiot. There's nothing inherently anti-Catholic, nor even inherently Communist, about a state-run health insurance system ... such as what they have in Canada.And even then in most, if not all of these systems, people also have private insurance. Things like dental care, for example, are not covered by Medicare Canada.
Quid, you can't say they have the Mark of the Beast for simply living somewhere. And pay your taxes, it's a federal crime to not.