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Federal Judge Rules Obamacare Unconstitutional
« on: December 14, 2018, 08:47:33 PM »
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  • I was the last of the holdouts. I was able to evade Commie "Care" to the very end without penalty. 

    Winning !!

    All of you who succumbed to Commie "Care" (Obamacare) will easily submit to the Mark of the Beast. You failed the test. You say you won't take the Mark, but your actions and lack of backbone say otherwise...

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-14/obamacare-gutted-core-provisions-ruled-unconstitutional-texas-judge
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    Re: Federal Judge Rules Obamacare Unconstitutional
    « Reply #1 on: December 14, 2018, 09:10:26 PM »
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  • My husband owns his own business, and when it started at first we could afford healthcare. He started it a good 5-6 years ago now. Once insurance became Obama care we couldn’t afford it at all! He canceled the insurance, and I stressed over big injuries for a while. In the end we ended up saving money by only paying for medical care when we needed it. Like his knee surgery, my fractured foot, and my sons double ear infection. We did get taxed pretty heavily this year though.


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    Re: Federal Judge Rules Obamacare Unconstitutional
    « Reply #2 on: December 14, 2018, 10:09:02 PM »
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  • And by Obamacare, I assume you're referring to the state sponsored health exchanges?  Not for me!  I was one of the very few that was able to "If you like your insurance, you can keep it."  My employer is a member of a Christian health group sharing plan. The price went up considerably, 13.5%, but beggars can't be choosers.  Since all the organizations are registered non-profits, we get around by a state loophole, having to finance abortions, birth control, sex change treatment or surgery, and sterilizations.  Individuals who want those things can apply to Aetna and pay per treatment.  I'm not really sure how that works.  Some Protestants, for example, use contraception.  The prescription, eyeglass, and dental coverage also costs extra.  I get the prescription plan, but self-pay for eyeglasses and dental.  I get new glasses every four or five years, and just take my chances with the dentist.  Thus far, it is less to self-pay.  I've gotten one pair of glasses at Walmart, and had one tooth pulled.  It was a back most crooked molar, useless even before it decayed.  The other teeth haven't loosened or migrated as I was told.  It doesn't show, and I don't miss it for eating, so I'm not getting the recommended implant.  

    I do think it's rather rash judgment on the part of the OP to condemn people with no choice to hell while boasting about being able to pay a steep fine, or tax as Obama and Pelosi called it!  This manner of thinking condemns nearly all Catholic citizens of countries with socialized medicine to hell!  After all, there IS such a thing as not partaking of immortal medical treatment.  Nobody HAS to get contraceptives or abort their babies.  I'm wondering if the OP realizes his tax money finances public schools?  Since they are Satanic institutions, will he not also take the mark of the beast for giving his money to corrupt the minds of children?  

    Our Lord said, "Render to Caesar the things that are his, and to God, the things that are God's."  He then proceeded to pay His taxes!  

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    Re: Federal Judge Rules Obamacare Unconstitutional
    « Reply #3 on: December 15, 2018, 08:22:58 AM »
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    From the woman came the beginning of sin, and by her we all die. ~ Ecclesiasticus 25:33

    International Women's Day is a day we all celebrate Eve's rebellion at the Tree and our plummet into sin.

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    Re: Federal Judge Rules Obamacare Unconstitutional
    « Reply #4 on: December 15, 2018, 08:28:20 AM »
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    And by Obamacare, I assume you're referring to the state sponsored health exchanges?  Not for me!  I was one of the very few that was able to "If you like your insurance, you can keep it."  My employer is a member of a Christian health group sharing plan. The price went up considerably, 13.5%, but beggars can't be choosers.  Since all the organizations are registered non-profits, we get around by a state loophole, having to finance abortions, birth control, sex change treatment or surgery, and sterilizations.  Individuals who want those things can apply to Aetna and pay per treatment.  I'm not really sure how that works.  Some Protestants, for example, use contraception.  The prescription, eyeglass, and dental coverage also costs extra.  I get the prescription plan, but self-pay for eyeglasses and dental.  I get new glasses every four or five years, and just take my chances with the dentist.  Thus far, it is less to self-pay.  I've gotten one pair of glasses at Walmart, and had one tooth pulled.  It was a back most crooked molar, useless even before it decayed.  The other teeth haven't loosened or migrated as I was told.  It doesn't show, and I don't miss it for eating, so I'm not getting the recommended implant. 

    I do think it's rather rash judgment on the part of the OP to condemn people with no choice to hell while boasting about being able to pay a steep fine, or tax as Obama and Pelosi called it!  This manner of thinking condemns nearly all Catholic citizens of countries with socialized medicine to hell!  After all, there IS such a thing as not partaking of immortal medical treatment.  Nobody HAS to get contraceptives or abort their babies.  I'm wondering if the OP realizes his tax money finances public schools?  Since they are Satanic institutions, will he not also take the mark of the beast for giving his money to corrupt the minds of children? 

    Our Lord said, "Render to Caesar the things that are his, and to God, the things that are God's."  He then proceeded to pay His taxes! 

    Another woman rationalizing her material comfort, security and convenience, and not trusting in the Lord God. You will certainly take the Mark of the Beast.

    You've committed several logical fallacies. The first is a strawman. I never said, nor did I boast, I was able to pay steep fines for not accepting Obamacare. I said I evaded the whole communist system without penalty. I'll let you figure out how I did it.

    Your other logical fallacy is equating federal reserve notes with the currency of Caesar. The former is completely fake. It's created out of thin air and stored as a digital unit or printed as paper. It's used as a unit of debt to enslave the population. The latter is true currency made of the elements gold, silver, bronze, and others...dug out of the earth, and tempered and shaped, by Roman hands with blood and sweat for Caesar. Regarding the former, people are under no moral obligation to pay any entity a unit of debt, whether it be taxes, loans or usury, that has no intrinsic origin, but was created out of nothing. The lender and government did absolutely nothing to generate anything of substance. It's ALL AN ILLUSION. There is no real value, therefore, taxpayers and borrowers are under no moral obligation to slave away for a deception. Regarding the latter, the Roman currency, indeed, had and has (regarding collecting, today) substantive value and origin. People were certainly obligated to render unto Caesar what belonged to him and the Roman empire, as commanded by the Lord God.
    From the woman came the beginning of sin, and by her we all die. ~ Ecclesiasticus 25:33

    International Women's Day is a day we all celebrate Eve's rebellion at the Tree and our plummet into sin.


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    Re: Federal Judge Rules Obamacare Unconstitutional
    « Reply #5 on: December 15, 2018, 09:10:28 AM »
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  • Another woman rationalizing her material comfort, security and convenience, and not trusting in the Lord God. You will certainly take the Mark of the Beast.

    You've committed several logical fallacies. The first is a strawman. I never said, nor did I boast, I was able to pay steep fines for not accepting Obamacare. I said I evaded the whole communist system without penalty. I'll let you figure out how I did it.

    Your other logical fallacy is equating federal reserve notes with the currency of Caesar. The former is completely fake. It's created out of thin air and stored as a digital unit or printed as paper. It's used as a unit of debt to enslave the population. The latter is true currency made of the elements gold, silver, bronze, and others...dug out of the earth, and tempered and shaped, by Roman hands with blood and sweat for Caesar. Regarding the former, people are under no moral obligation to pay any entity a unit of debt, whether it be taxes, loans or usury, that has no intrinsic origin, but was created out of nothing. The lender and government did absolutely nothing to generate anything of substance. It's ALL AN ILLUSION. There is no real value, therefore, taxpayers and borrowers are under no moral obligation to slave away for a deception. Regarding the latter, the Roman currency, indeed, had and has (regarding collecting, today) substantive value and origin. People were certainly obligated to render unto Caesar what belonged to him and the Roman empire, as commanded by the Lord God.
    I’m sorry, but I don’t think Jesus said “except in the case of...”. He said pay your taxes.
    I’m in agreement with you on taxation is theft. The amount my husband has to pay for being successful is outrageous! He’s being punished for taking care of his family, and being responsible. That being said he does pay because God said too. 
    Rome was unfair with its taxes which is why Jesus was posed that question in the first place. 

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    Re: Federal Judge Rules Obamacare Unconstitutional
    « Reply #6 on: December 15, 2018, 11:25:57 AM »
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  • I’m sorry, but I don’t think Jesus said “except in the case of...”. He said pay your taxes.
    I’m in agreement with you on taxation is theft. The amount my husband has to pay for being successful is outrageous! He’s being punished for taking care of his family, and being responsible. That being said he does pay because God said too.
    Rome was unfair with its taxes which is why Jesus was posed that question in the first place.

    You lack critical thought, which is another reason you should heed 1 Timothy 2: 11-15, but you continue to ignore God's word. Such is the modern woman.

    Let the woman learn in silence, with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to use authority over the man: but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed; then Eve. And Adam was not seduced; but the woman being seduced, was in the transgression. Yet she shall be saved through childbearing; if she continue in faith, and love, and sanctification, with sobriety. ~ 1 Timothy 2: 11-15
    From the woman came the beginning of sin, and by her we all die. ~ Ecclesiasticus 25:33

    International Women's Day is a day we all celebrate Eve's rebellion at the Tree and our plummet into sin.

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    Re: Federal Judge Rules Obamacare Unconstitutional
    « Reply #7 on: December 15, 2018, 12:02:38 PM »
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  • I see. So, you only follow bible quotes exactly as they are read when it fits your agenda. But when it comes to something you don’t like than it has cliff notes.  


    Matthew 22 17:21

    Tell us therefore what dost thou think, is it lawful to give tribute to Caesar, or not? But Jesus knowing their wickedness, said: Why do you tempt me, ye hypocrites? Show me the coin of the tribute. And they offered him a penny. And Jesus saith to them: Whose image and inscription is this. They say to him: Caesar's. Then he saith to them: Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar's; and to God, the things that are God's. And hearing this they wondered, and leaving him, went their ways.


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    Re: Federal Judge Rules Obamacare Unconstitutional
    « Reply #8 on: December 15, 2018, 03:08:18 PM »
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  • I see. So, you only follow bible quotes exactly as they are read when it fits your agenda. But when it comes to something you don’t like than it has cliff notes.

    It's the teaching of the Church. It's God's agenda, to which you're opposed. You take comfort in the Montinian Sect's interpretation of holy scripture and the subverted roles of man and woman.

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    Matthew 22 17:21

    Tell us therefore what dost thou think, is it lawful to give tribute to Caesar, or not? But Jesus knowing their wickedness, said: Why do you tempt me, ye hypocrites? Show me the coin of the tribute. And they offered him a penny. And Jesus saith to them: Whose image and inscription is this. They say to him: Caesar's. Then he saith to them: Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar's; and to God, the things that are God's. And hearing this they wondered, and leaving him, went their ways.

    The federal reserve note (dollar) is printed out of thin air by a private entity. The U.S. government doesn't own the federal reserve note. The U.S. government doesn't print it. Your argument that taxpayers should render federal reserve notes through taxation to the U.S. government based off what Jesus said in that passage is completely illogical. You really need to educate yourself on civics, basic economics and holy scripture before you try to debate.

    To reiterate, your other logical fallacy is equating federal reserve notes (dollars) with the currency of Caesar. The dollar is completely fake. It's created out of thin air and stored as a digital unit and printed as paper. It's used as a unit of debt to enslave the population. Caesar's currency was true currency made of the elements gold, silver, bronze, and others...dug out of the earth, and tempered and shaped, by Roman hands with blood and sweat for Caesar. Regarding the federal reserve note (dollar), people are under no moral obligation to pay any entity a unit of debt, whether it be taxes or paying off loans and usury, that has no real value and no intrinsic origin, for it was created out of nothing. The lender (Federal Reserve and banks beneath it) and government did absolutely nothing to generate anything of substance. It's ALL AN ILLUSION. There is no real value in the dollar. It doesn't even have nominal value. In fact, it has negative value because it took time and energy to create something (dollars) that has absolutely zero value. Therefore, taxpayers and borrowers are under no moral obligation to slave away for a deception. Caesar's currency, indeed, had and has (regarding collecting, today) intrinsic, substantive value and origin. People were certainly obligated to render unto Caesar what belonged to him and the Roman empire, as commanded by the Lord God.
    From the woman came the beginning of sin, and by her we all die. ~ Ecclesiasticus 25:33

    International Women's Day is a day we all celebrate Eve's rebellion at the Tree and our plummet into sin.

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    Re: Federal Judge Rules Obamacare Unconstitutional
    « Reply #9 on: December 15, 2018, 03:55:35 PM »
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  • I’m not against anything God, or the church says. I know my place. Thank you, next.

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    Re: Federal Judge Rules Obamacare Unconstitutional
    « Reply #10 on: December 15, 2018, 04:07:09 PM »
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  • All of you who succumbed to Commie "Care" (Obamacare) will easily submit to the Mark of the Beast. You failed the test. You say you won't take the Mark, but your actions and lack of backbone say otherwise...

    Idiot.  There's nothing inherently anti-Catholic, nor even inherently Communist, about a state-run health insurance system ... such as what they have in Canada.


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  • Another woman rationalizing her material comfort, security and convenience, and not trusting in the Lord God. You will certainly take the Mark of the Beast.

    Matthew, who will rid us of this insufferable moron?

    He needs to be gone simply because you've already banned him once.

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    Re: Federal Judge Rules Obamacare Unconstitutional
    « Reply #12 on: December 15, 2018, 08:24:29 PM »
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  • I’m not against anything God, or the church says. I know my place. Thank you, next.

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    Re: Federal Judge Rules Obamacare Unconstitutional
    « Reply #13 on: December 15, 2018, 08:27:01 PM »
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  • Idiot.  There's nothing inherently anti-Catholic, nor even inherently Communist, about a state-run health insurance system ... such as what they have in Canada.

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    Re: Federal Judge Rules Obamacare Unconstitutional
    « Reply #14 on: December 15, 2018, 08:27:59 PM »
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  • Matthew, who will rid us of this insufferable moron?

    He needs to be gone simply because you've already banned him once.

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    From the woman came the beginning of sin, and by her we all die. ~ Ecclesiasticus 25:33

    International Women's Day is a day we all celebrate Eve's rebellion at the Tree and our plummet into sin.

     

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